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Ah, the never ending quest for the light wind kite. Been down that path for some years now & have spent quite a bit on the journey. I too was looking for an inexpensive one to start with & bought a new Prism 4D. A short time after that I lucked into a well used HQ Shadow. You got me to thinking about all the kites I acquired & where I am now. So here's the list of SUL kites Prism 4D blue Prism 4D Berkeley Edition Prism Quantum Pro SUL Prism Flashlight HQ Shadow Nebula SUL Sky Burner Pro Dancer SUL Aerostar Sano SSL Sky Sport Design Transformer II SUL Sky Sport Design Tekken SUL Rsky Nirvana WW Then there are the ultra lights or maybe just lights Prism Zephyr Inferno Prism Zephyr Eggplant Sky Burner Solus EC UL Sky Sport Design Sea Devil light Sky Sport Design Tekken light edit: add PBSK Bad Boy II ultra light (how did I miss this one?) So that is sixteen kites, (make that seventeen), in these two categories. I am not a master flier but you might call me a collector. Most (12) of these kites were bought on the secondary market. The Nebula is likely the only SUL ever made of that model & the kite is no longer available. The Sano is the first production one of that kite. There may have been less than a hundred ever offered, no longer being made. Prism Flashlight no longer in production. All of the Sky Sport Design kites are still available as custom kites. Rsky makes newer kites than the older one I have. All others are likely still available as new. I like buying on the secondary market as there is considerable cost savings plus I like having kites others have flown. Most by much better fliers than I. You can also find kites no longer available as new. I have two 4D's & two Zephyrs, I like them. What do I fly SUL these days? Still flying the little 4D. Fly anywhere, anytime, but it is a 58" wing span. The Pro Dancer SUL will make you look like a hero when no one else is flying. Fly it on 90# x 100' lines. It breaks 50# line sets in very light wind. I have had to put it away when small children trying to fly their kites were reduced to tears by their efforts. Sky Burner Pro Dancer SUL But the Nirvana, sigh, it is something special, click. It is teaching me slack line tricks in very light wind. SUL kites have very little inertia which makes it more difficult to do tricks. Some of the other kites are waiting for me to learn more. I will revisit them from time to time. Rsky Nirvana WW The UL & light kites are flown when there is 4 or more mph of wind available. The Z is a good kite to always have in the vehicle with you "just in case" you find a spot to fly. The Solus EC is a large beautiful kite that will glow like a opal in a sunny sky. The Lam Hoac Sea Devil light is a confidence builder & has helped me learn to fade consistently. Sky Sport Design Sea Devil light The conclusion of the matter. Certain kites "click" with different people. You'll have to try them to find out what works for you as you go down the path of your KiteLife. Your tastes & needs will change no doubt. Take your time, save some money, get that kite you think is too expensive. You will forget the expense once that special kite distracts you a bit. Lengthy post, too much information, Oh well, SHBKF

Sounds great (and not being critical), but just curious, what part of (50 straps for $5 - $6) wasn't appealing. They are 1/2" x 8", which is entirely adequate for bundling a kite, if not, they can be tandemed together to make 16" or longer. They can be easily cut to an "exact" length with scissors, and at that price, they are practically disposable. Another bonus, you will find 1,000 other things to use them for. 😎 Link> Well, I tried to add a link, but it didn't appear to work right. Just go to eBay an search "velcro straps", should you be interested.

First time I've ever flown a B2 size quad. Definitely a zippy little guy. It was a blast to fly! Glad I could be your video test pilot [emoji3] Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app

Auto parts stores have really nice ones. Also available in sewing notions at department big box stores. I go back & forth from obsessive packing/wrapping/banding to just get it in the sleeve without any wraps at all sort of neatly. There is a name for the first type of behavior - Obsessive Compulsive Kite Disorder or OCKD. I like to shorten that to OKD. Another similar thread is currently showing similar symptoms, the tail packing/wrapping/wrinkle worry one. Quad fliers are routinely rewarded with heightened elation brought on by successful line management made possible by OKD. OKD behavior is it's own reward, SHBKF

It's been a long wait and lots of patience. I FINALLY received my PRECIOUS!!!! MUHAHAHAHAAAAA.....

I've purchased a mid vented b-serie few month ago. I wanted to used it from 15 mph to 20 mph wind because I used to fly with the b-serie full sail until 15 mph. Since I fly with the mid-vented I'm happy to see that it can be flown since 12 mph and even less. What is the wind range of the mid-vented ? Depending on the pilot skill but what is your opinion ? Thierry Bressure

On Saturday I set off early from home and made my way to Dunstable Kite Festival. Upon arriving I met up with a few old friends and managed to get a bit of team flying in, which was cool because as some of you know I mostly fly solo[emoji16], I even got invited to take part in the megateam which was cool[emoji41]. Met some really nice people through the day and ended up going for dinner with some fellow fliers, well I had such a brilliant day I decided to spend the night in my car[emoji23]. After a brilliant nights sleep[emoji23] I found myself the first person on the field, had pretty much the same brilliant day again, although two megaflys[emoji4]. Was able to pick a few brains and just listening to peoples conversations(about kites)gave me new things to think about and I managed to get someone to show me an axle! yey. I feel the weekend has added a new level to my kite flying, and before anyone asks no i didn't mess up the megateam, well except it turns out I can't tell left from right lol and I zoned out 3 times watching the other kites and suddenly thought oh yeah I'm flying in this as well[emoji16] But it's all good. Sent from my SM-T210 using KiteLife mobile app

Thank you all Exult, at some point i considered selling the kite but i glad i didn't. and now as i upgrade i know i will have a sturdy kite to lend around Well the leading edge doesn't hum that much louder. but the kite needs quite some wind to fly (120cm wingspan and non-hollow fiberglass rods. pretty heavy stuff). But when it flew i liked it... until Btreize made me try a nexus . now i can't wait for my hypno to arrive (due tomorrow). i also bought a cheap foil kite from ebay because it was $10 with free shipping along with some dyneema lines for the expresso and repair tape. I also got to try a Rev kite definitely one in my future when the budget and skills allows it. I haven't even started seriously yet and i already have a kite, bought 2 more, considering a 4th and bought spares....

I'ma "brown santa" n been flying fir shoot can't remember now! Try a Rev especially if your brown santa likes drones or RC helis. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

Sky Burner sul pro dancer. I regularly fly mine in low to no wind. Sent from my IPhone

I'm not a dualie flier but, I've heard only good things about the HQ Shadow in 2MPH

Link? I actually just walk into the store as it is right next door to my in town garage. Just saw them hanging on one of the displays near the counter. I suspect they would be in the wiring area to bundle up rats nests of wire that are too long or hanging down under the dash. I have been accused of being a Luddite, sorry, SHBKF P.S. I have lots of straps, been collecting them for years. Sewing notions are odds & ends used by seamstresses. I know a few of those fine people.

I'm curious about a link for those since I'm in automotive. Never thought they'd have them. Sewing notions?? I'm not as bad as OCKD but I did get a VERY good laugh at that!! Ok, maybe OKD. Seriously though, my only reason for the straps is just so a spar doesn't drop out and get lost like I've heard so many do.

I agree with Sparkie's methods, which I eventually began using. I used the velcro straps for a while, but it just became a hassle to keep up with them, etc. If you want something of that nature, these are pretty cheap and easily found on eBay (50 straps for $5 - $6)

On iQuad we just used square (180 degree visibility) blue LED bulbs slid directly onto small watch batteries, which we than adhered to the sail and bent the bulb wires so it generally pointed at us, 5 lights per kite.

I make a try with a lower measured wind than yesterday. What a damn I love my semi-vented [emoji4] Thierry Bressure

My precious and I are bonding well. I think the next adventure is a beach somewhere far away.

1-3 mph.

Today's the day.. I actually feel different somehow.. I feel I've said what I wanted to say in the first post but upon reflection, I very much acknowledge the difference this community has made on my kiting in the last year. I've met and befriended people I had only ever heard of before. Today, my pride and joy for kiting the Symphony 2.2.4 should be debuting in the hands of @John Barresi & @windpoacher. I don't think that kite would have ever gotten the attention it truly deserves without JB's influence.. Thank You John! Here's to a great community and Thanks again to all of you for allowing me to be a part of it..