Exult

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    HQ: Jam Session, Maestrale, Infinity, Fazer XL, Tramontana Prism: Elixir, Alien
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    A bit of: Tennis, doing craft like stuff in the backyard, Linux/electronics/programming, skiing...
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  1. "You may say I'm a dreamer...", but what I really prefer is that there would be some "abroad" (depends on perspective) kite clinic like event somewhere with a new set of people that would share their experiences, what they learned, what set of people (and how) they managed to gather for the event (shared joy is often more fun)... I'm not into gambling, so these tickets are the first of any kind that I've bought in about 30 years. OK, the rate of sold tickets might have been a bit low and this therefore might end up as a kite drawing. Even if it did, I'd much like to hear about the experiences with the new kite(dual/quad?)/gear prize after a few months of use.
  2. Where will the logo appear: stickers, cards, web sites or all of the previous? Do you count a gradient as one color or an infinite set of colors (and therefore not allowed)? If you want to make a vector drawing image, but don't own a license for Adobe Illustrator or don't want the hassle of dealing with software licences (after upgrading computers or continuing using the program when going from home to work or vice versa e.g.) or want it for free (as in speech and beer), go for Inkscape (available for Windows/MacOS/Linux). The native format is SVG with features such as being possible to mix with html (you can include links in parts of the image e.g.) and that the resulting SVG-file is a text (XML) file that you can edit by hand for total control (or to learn SVG). As for all vector graphics, the pixels will not appear no matter how much you zoom in.
  3. I could consider access to such a facility on regular basis. I could even consider to get a matching indoor kite.
  4. So, considering the topic ("Feeling Frustrated"), if I frustrate someone - I'm not off topic? I've been out kiting: 4th of Dec 13th of Dec 31st of Dec 6th of Jan 22nd of Jan 28th of Jan 29th of Jan 5th of Feb 12th of Feb 19th of Feb 25th of Feb 28th of Feb 1st of Mar 2nd of Mar 7th of Mar 8th of Mar 12th of Mar 16th of Mar 19th of Mar I.e. 19 times from and including December. The main reason why you don't get kite time is that you don't get out to kite (Reminds me of my favorite excuse for being late: "I'm late because I left home late." - Yes, this a bit socially masochistic, but very honest.) You may now go on feeling frustrated!
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    The barely 0.5m fly training was intended to get you into seeing the other part of basic control, namely that that line tension when stalled (and not stalled) propels the kite. To this point, for you, pulling on one line means that you turn and that the other wing tip will get ahead of the line that gets pulled. Stalled flying (like when landing, before an axel, side sliding or just for the sake of maintaining a stall) is the opposite - the wing that you pull will rise. To make the connection that a tight line will propel the kite or wing half is good also when avoiding powered lawn darts crashing the kite or (later) when you axel and initially (during the first fraction of the trick) move the wing that you pull on. I see no reason delaying to get acquainted with this part (non-turning, power-up/down what you pull/relax) of flying. There is no substitute for learning this than doing. A fruit of this training might be gentler handling, leading to a less frequently broken kite and more air (than repair) time.
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    Under every square metre of sky there is square metre of ground and I think that you are missing out here. Your focus seem to be to swoop around in the sky and mostly do whatever to avoid the ground (don't misunderstand me, left and right turn training until the control is automatic is also much necessary). The ground is there to land and start from (in various ways), fly closely to (slowly initially) and involve in tricking (later). My suggestion is to go out when there is little wind and just barely fly. Get a feeling for how hard you need to pull by only flying up 0.5m and then let the kite land, then a little higher (land again) and then more. Launching/stalling/landing is an excellent exercise - postpone the snap stall training for the moment being. The just-barely-fly-training could help to go easier on the kite during the start and help you to avoid the speed kite like launch and make your centre-T fittings last. Talking about the ground - use it to move yourself downstreams/upstreams to control how hard you are pulling the lines (unless the lines are almost as long as the field). Again, barely flying/maintaining a stall is a good exercise - it forces you to use the feet to achieve a goal. Use movements to slow down the kite, speeding up the kite, maintaining a stall or extending the wind window. When you get the launch/stall/landing going (and your feet) you could instead land from above by flying to the ground, turn the kite while moving towards it and then land. The final part of the landing should then already be familiar to you. If there is as much wind as it is in the video I'd recommend to start out with these type of landings close to the edge (or another day). Also to help forum members commenting on your videos, do them shorter leaving the parts that need input/discussion remaining - not necessarily the parts were everything went well (the long raw uncut video could exist in parallel with the shorter highlights video). The 30 minutes video here I must confess I digested by taking many samples from rather than viewing it from the start to the end. If a video is longer than five minutes I expect that many will skip parts of it. Several videos from many sessions in one blog post, where each video shows a certain aspect (like landings or starts) is also one option that could guide a discussion. But, what do I know - I've posted no videos at all... I wish you happy kiting and progress in your pace, Exult
  7. I'm afraid that I must agree. The main risk if these sort of images got very common I see, is that female kiters might be deterred and consider that KL is not a place for them (and they tend not to be abundant as it is already). If I could choose between a KL free from non kiting "babe" (just for the sake of it) images and a KL full of it, the decision would be simple. Let's go on with kiting and kiting related posts instead. Sorry if anyone gets offended. /Happy kiting and posting, Exult
  8. The February log entries: An Under Powered Fazer XXL and a Somewhat Pulling Kymera Kind of Cascading En Masse Tricking Leading the Way to Longer Cascading At Last the Fazer XXL in Decent Wind - or the Session of Wear and Tear Can you relate to any contents? Am I missing a good short cut of trick learning (is there such a thing?) somewhere? What was your subjective way into tricking or a certain trick that made you see the light? Any similarities or differences also in non directly piloting matters such as: repair, preparation, planning, duration of sessions, equipment on field... ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ An Under Powered Fazer XXL and a Somewhat Pulling Kymera Sun Feb 5 17:38:39 CET 2017 GF forecasted 3m/s Fazer XXL on 35m 180kg lines Kymera on 25m 38kg lines I'd say today's Fazer XXL session was much similar to the previous (minus the snow and cold weather). The low wind still made it under powered causing you to be very warm (flying in my shirt in about 0deg and very light snowfall). Only on a few occasions could I lean against the wind, but that required backing. This time I managed to turtle it by doing a snap stall with a second distinct hammer like input which in the same moment bounced in a large release. Also managed a sleeping beauty (aka back spin start), but decided not to try this again today because I think it is more of a higher wind trick. Next time with this kite I'm going to try it with more wind, with this little it is kind of a stale feel. A more positive view of today's XXL flying is that when you get it going in the gusts it gives a mighty feeling, the appearance is something like that of a small hang glider. Crossing the centre of the wind window in several straight lines to eventually reach to the top was also a bit like the tacks of sailing struggling against the wind (but here to reach the top in low wind). Today it was clearly under powered. I wished for more wind to to have a more connected feeling through the lines and to be able to do input with quicker response. What I don't know is how much wind that I would be able to handle with this large kite. I hope that the useful wind range will not be too narrow. After a slowly moving person (spectator?) got out of the way I let the frustration out by making a rather aggressive pull on the lines when launching the kite. However, one line was around the sail causing the standoff to break. I then tried to repair it by taping an old small pin from a small firework rocket pin. This wasn't so successful, but I found a thicker firework pin that worked. The TS is standing out from the plane defined by the LE and the spine. Looks funny, but it works. I was so glad I had brought the Kymera. The light wind suited it well. No more running around to get it to the top of the window. In the gusts it quickly developed some pull and I like the feed back it gives. The large wind window felt like a liberation today. The feel of the flight is somewhat like the Tramontana in that you get it going in light wind and it tracks well, but added to this you get the trickiness of the Kymera. I used about half of the time flying with intent and making it looking good and controlled. Skipping this is not really an option - you need to tune/calibrate the input to hit those corners and there is always some turn somewhere in the window that needs some extra attention. The rest of the time I spent provoking the kite, going from trick to trick without necessarily setting it up perfectly. This session I managed to hit the lazies a little snappier than before, but I need to work more on maintaining the turtled position all the way to the end of the lazy rotation. If having more than one kite out + lines it is not uncommon to accidentally lift the lines of the grounded/resting kite with the wing tip of the active kite. Normally these line tangles are good natured and hardly anything needs to be done at all to handle it. This time when the lines of the Kymera got picked up by the the wing tip of the Fazer XXL the tangle was worse, took something like 10 minutes to handle and the short unintentional air ride had even made a knot on the Kymera line. Normally some separation of the lines in the tangle (so that the loops of the lines can slide out of the tangle) is sufficient - not so this time untieing was required.. Time to go home... When I came home I flew a large green kite with another colour layout than the XXL. It was in two or three shades of green and had no large black areas and and no text on the sail. Then I flew a 2m purple orchid flower slowly gliding over the sky. It's movement was smooth, constant speed, but with digitized directions, somewhat like the control that the combination four keys can offer in an old style computer games. Then my wife accidentally woke me up. Yes, of course I was dreaming. After a day like this with the nice feeling after a day of physical exercise I had rapidly fell asleep quite soon after the head hit the pillow. I then realized, considering the radically different flight pattern of the orchid from the green kite, that I just had a quad dream. Artists: The photo of the orchid was taken by D Ramey Logan and is Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 licenced (this should make the dream scene image share alike as well). The dream scene was drawn by Exult while trying to learn more of the vector graphics drawing program Inkscape. It can be argued whether he should give up that activity and stick to kiting instead. The clipping is from the Scream, a painting by Edvard Munch and is nowadays in the public domain. ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ Kind of Cascading Mon Feb 12 19:00:00 CET 2017 GB forecasted 2-3m/s Hydra on 20m 38 kg lines Kymera on 25m, 38kg lines A beautiful winter day. The parking lot at the beach was more occupied than empty for a change (during winter) - the tour skaters found the ice good and trustworthy and were therefore active today. There was even an iceboat far out from the beach. Due to the wind direction, close to parallel to the beach, I was again forced to fly the kites among outdoor furniture. This kind of interfered with my plans to do "en masse" tricking. The main reason was that I wanted to avoid the following recoveries and having the kite/lines getting entangled in a table, bench, etc... If I flew from the water towards the lawn the wind got gustier and if I tricked over the ice most recoveries get trickier. On ice, if the kite is "ground turtled", it only slides on its back instead of tilting up into start position. If the ice is not perfectly smooth you can sometimes make a (dead launch like) double tug to get it into start position, from where you can do a basic start. True dead launches on ice didn't work out for me the few times I tried them, though I think that they would have been rather safe on ice. Another ice interacting trick that I haven't tried before (I think) were LE launches that became very smooth. One "sideways localised" trick suited the limited "effective space" well and that is the cascade. Typically ending on the ground in a turtle just under where you started. I don't claim the trick: I can only go a couple of cycles before the a half axle turns into a rixel (ie. the kite goes into a turtle) and I don't do the ending tug of the new top wing in the end of the half axle. The Hydra is the kite kite of my choise for the cascade practicing. So I ended up doing a lot of cascade practicing. The way to get them going a bit longer (still without the second tug of the half axle) was to make the half axels by quick tugs and kind of letting the top wing half bounce on stiff lines (alternating wing halves of course). It kind of felt crude with the feeling similar to having a thin steel wire stiffly suspended and the other side connected to a steel dank. Then, to describe the tug, drop the steel dank. (I have abandoned this method now for ... read on and you'll see) Today's annoyance, only one wing tip had an end cap, so the Kymera nock broke (it could just still function though). In one of these photos you can find a tour skater/traction kiter. When zooming in the image quality of this skater is unfortunately of traditional "proof of UFO quality". The foil kite was orange and black (sorry no more info). At home, the last remaining end cap... ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ En Masse Tricking Leading the Way to Longer Cascading Sun Feb 19 11:49:39 CET 2017 GB forecasted 4-5m/s Hydra on 20m 38 kg lines Kymera on 25m, 38kg lines So how is it going with the trick en masse approach? The conditions at the beach felt much the same as last week - same direction and there was still ice. The wind felt quite light in spite of the forecast. I started out on the lawn but left because of two reasons. A mother and some children were making an open fire with twigs from a pine branch that fallen down in some high wind. The still humid wood and the green needles caused much smoke drifting over the lawn, so I was driven off the lawn. I also went towards the beach hoping to find a fraction more wind there. She made some comment regarding the smoke and I replied by calmly asking if her "charcoal" had the SIS mark (a "proof of quality" from a Swedish test institute and yes some bags of coal actually do have this mark) and further referred to the battle of Lützen (which is commonly used to describe dense fog: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lützen_(1632) ). She did not get upset, but told me that they did have a (stunt I assume) kite, but that they didn't manage to get it going very much/well. She also described seeing the kiters during the 90-ies in Fiskebäckskil (Swedish west coast) and that she had visited a Kite store (still during the 90-ies) in Gothenburg. It could have been the same shop whose owner shared so much info through the phone (I am in debt) and that I bought the HQ Maestrale from. However I never did visit Gothenburg during that period. When leaving she thanked for the getting-started/going-hints that she had gotten just from observing the kiting. So the place and conditions and limitations were much the same as the last weekend. I therefore continued with the cascade training mostly with the Hydra. To modify the input "control noise" during the "en masse" part I did move the arms back so that I could feel a second tug in the other arm slightly after the large axel tug. I don't know how this works, but it seems to be delaying the rixeling that is the end of the cascades. (more cascade training/observations in my next blog entry). A trick that fitted the Kymera well in the light wind was the belly launch. Angle the nose a dm to the side from the centre and then just do a quick light tug on the "shortest" line (that's all). The Kymera pops high up with the nose pointing towards 10:30/01:30 roughly. I didn't have the same luck with the Hydra, but had some difficulties in making the nose point upwards. Is this because it demands more wind or is it a "feature" of the kite? - To be tested and compared in more wind. Why didn't I try some more already in this low wind session by combining the start with backwards running or at least while pulling back (more?) on both arms? Cape Evil photographed from the table of obstruction. You were created with the sole purpose of ruining the wind and tangle/catch the lines. It could be worse though, and it will, during summer the hordes of chaos will have their picnics of malice in order to turn the beach into a crowded mess, restricting me to off hours of doziness and into the gloomy rain of misery. And I'm a complete whiner with misanthropic tendencies today - NO MORE GRUMPINESS! Sunshine is overrated and a summer rain is not that bad at least if it is not combined with too light wind. And if I can't fly because it is crowded I got plenty of kites to repair and fix (and so does the garden and the house as well). ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ At Last the Fazer XXL in Decent Wind - or the Session of Wear and Tear Sat Feb 25 15:55:33 CET 2017 GF forecasted 5m/s Fazer XXL on 35m 180kg lines No scheduled tennis next two weeks and most likely no kiting in the next few days - today I went all in. I "knew" that I would get profoundly sore muscles, but no other activities would suffer from it. I almost aimed for it since it is a receipt of that the physical exercise gave some effect (my belief - am no expert in these matters). The ratio of pulling (as expected from this large kite) and (possibility to do) tricking was just right. Gaining ground was done by flying the kite to the top of the wind window and then backing - the opposite of a fly away (in low wind), where you let the kite glide downwards from you. Regarding the tricking I'm sure tricking purists could make an objection like "my NN (their favourite) kite tricks better" "and this kite feels murky (mushy?) in comparison". It is different, the kite gives a massive feeling and its up to you whether you appreciate it or not. The possibility to do tricking (and doing them at a somewhat rapid rate) is dependent both on your tricking skills and your physical fitness - I intend to improve in both. Sitting on the ground in high wind while steering the kite back and forth and possibly be dragged sitting would feel a little limited ( http://kitelife.com/forum/topic/6989-you-need-a-really-big-van-to-have-this-one-in-the-back-with-the-le-assembled/?do=findComment&comment=61306) - though the sound is cool. Today when initiating the side slides it was common to overshoot the horisontal slide position ending up with the inside wing a bit higher up. Instead of trying to go on with the initial input of the FA with the outer hand I did it with the inner hand. I think this was easier, but I must look further into it. Another observation was that I got the inhaul snagged around the rear end of the spine a few times - who knows I might even add keeper lines on the bridle one day. Has this ferrule gotten bent (and if so from axel to wing tip landings)? The ferrules has worn through the LE dacron - I suspect the LE launches. A slightly worn nose. What is the main cause: LE-launches, failed fade launches, semi successful belly landings, cart wheels... ? OK, not so much wear, but I only used the kite three times of which one was in soft snow. The clip(s?) on the spine has moved allowing the centre-T to make a rip in the dacron of the sail. Is this the result of some less successful fade launches? Fazer XL had very badly glued clips - the inner surfaces were not even in proper contact because they were not completely smooth. I think the I ended up gluing (some lose, others to reinforce) all (about 16?) of them of the XL. Looks like I should do some preventive gluing here as well. If you look closely in the image you see the tape field-fix that prevents the centre T-from sliding. Before gluing properly I'll remove the tape residues with some propanol. The clips around one of the LS to LE connectors had come loose, while the other had not. More clips to glue and find their proper positions of. Why do I never learn that I should mark the original position with a thin marker of all clips as the first thing to do before even going to the field the first time? A sudden suspicion grew - this leading edge somewhat start to resemble that of a Prism Alien. Is the ferrule bent from e.g the axel to wing tip landings? I start to think about the square cube law (for structural strength versus "accelerated mass"/force) ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square-cube_law ), the inherent problems of large designs to support itself when scaling up a small design (such as a large kite) while exactly preserving the shape of all details. I end up getting lost (doesn't end up with the same result) when trying to consider the (kinetic to potential) energy of e.g. a tip stab of a small versus a scaled up large kite. Can it really be so that the energy required for breaking by bending a LLE scales in the same way as the mass when increasing the size of the kite? And how does abrasion (~small scale structural strength?) work for large kites? Imagine putting a sticker around the LE of a 4D, normal sized kite and a Fazer XXL and then do a couple of LE launches on a lawn and then on rocks? Which kite would wear out the sticker or itself quickest? How much of the wear is from kite weight and how much is from the wind load during a LE launch? ... Naaah!!! - I stick to the practical piloting aspects instead. Anyhow glad that I haven't snapped a LLE yet on the XXL - I did so about 1.5 years ago on the XL when a half unexpected tip stab turned out to be a little too hard. I should measure the span width of the XXL to see if it remains constant or if the ferrules bend with time. After the session So how did it go with the sore muscles the following days? Not that bad and not at all as the first time I used the Fazer XXL (then in somewhat deep snow and low wind conditions). Perhaps it then was caused by that I was completely new to the kite or the running around in snow to keep it in air in low wind? It looks like that there is little limitation in how I can use the Fazer XXL regarding the possibility to do other sports during the following days. There was no reason to put off what should have been done before so I measured the span width. 3.58m when standing up on its wing tips and 3.57m when resting on its belly (the LE flexes when the kite supports itself). When holding the LEs together in the nose and pressing the ferrules together the right nock was about 2cm from the left one. This latter comparison is a bit inconclusive - I'd expect that the left one would be the most bent one (and not the right that was the case), since the LLEs that I've broken have all been on the left side. Thank you, readers of great stamina!
  9. @jasonmcmahon76, don't let these tail jokes trick you into that tails attached to kites are silly! My Tramontana tows a tail say 1/3 of its time and is proud of it. The visual effect is too large to be ignored. In addition to the figure flying, some tricking is still possible with a tail: side slides, belly launches, even a fade (possibly entered from a FA - wasn't even sure at the time), while tricks that completes a revolution causes problems. I guess tip stabs, 2-point landings, turtles should be possible (wouldn't cause a line/tail tangle at least), but I can't recollect having done it or not with a tail. IMO every condition and kite combo is an opportunity to gather experience and can be considered as a challenge. Tramontana with tail being flown by my youngest daughter.
  10. Nope! I'm sorry, this doesn't count ! You can always improve however, through tethering the aeroplane by connecting a rope to each wing (/landing gear?) and get two large trucks to make a remake of the Thor's Hammers car (Audi A5 commercial) video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMlUt8K__iQ ). Then post your video in KL-Forum > General Kite Stuff > Kite Videos.
  11. Would the extra weight create a very pitch/roll up happy kite or is a (steel) centre-T far enough from the trailing edge to really have much of an effect? On the other hand if there would be an unexpected roll up I don't think that it would be the most urgent of problems. If you are into heavy re-engineering could one change the aluminum to a wrapped carbon tube to get something strong and light. Perhaps it would require reinforcement at the ends, so that it didn't crack lengthwise. But I guess the mod would take much time from flying. Park the car just off-road, behind a bush or in the shade with a camouflage net over it... (no - this is not a serious recommendation) I find it contributing to a relaxing atmosphere when people around doesn't need to only share the progress part of their stories, but also include the setbacks as well. And also a bonus for your positive thinking! By breaking the kite during ground recoveries do you mean while learning the cart wheel or "just anything that could get that kite off the ground"? For the cart wheel I'd say that you don't need much force. I've been working with this myself recently, when cart wheeling my Fazers (rather high aspect ratio and large kites).The way that I've found is to let the top wing back much, then make a long smooth soft pull on that line. Then the following input on the other wing can be very small. It almost feels like cheating through the cart wheel. It also looks like cheating IMO, but it works. Possibly you first need to pull the other line closest to the ground in advance to align the kite on the ground, but I'd need to be out on a field to remember/test/verify this set up part. Also be careful with the stand offs. Normally you feel/see if a line is around the wing during start, but be careful when this get more difficult to spot: long lines, heavy kite or windy conditions, snow or high grass.
  12. I'd also recommend to be a bit careful with your snap stall practice. When I learned the snap stall I broke several LS in mid air. The fitting between the spine and the LSs was plastic, but very robust. You inserted the pultruded 6mm carbon tube into it (about an inch). The tube snapped just where the fitting ended. The tubes lacked an inner end plug by design. When I added them (about 4cm of 4mm carbon rods) the LSs stopped snapping. They only snapped when I snap stalled (unnecessarily) hard. Therefore perhaps the centre-T of your Quantum would last longer if you reduced the input of the snap stall through the lines, but moved faster towards the kite.
  13. Sorry, should have been clearer. My post above was about the previous statement that a tail on a kite should increase the pull on the lines. It did not cover the case of an adjusted bridle.
  14. More pull from a slow kite? - sorry and apologize, but that sounds fishy to me and I simply cannot agree. Typically the forces form a particular case, with everything else constant is well modeled by being proportional to the density of the fluid (e.g. air, water, Hg...) and the velocity squared. This gives us the first hint. I try my best to make an analogy to a kite flying through the centre of the wind window. The path/direction relative to the kite/wing/foil is fixed and set by the bridle. The lift from the kite can be felt through the line. Now imagine a motorized aeroplane with a the pilot constantly aiming at the horizon. If the pilot now reduces the speed by reducing the power of the motor (or by letting the plane suddenly tow a long banner), would we now expect the plane to rise due to increased lift from the wings? No, of course not it will sink when the plane moves slower! Another case. Imagine a sailing yacht with no sails up, but the boat yet got some (residual) speed. Now turn the boat by angling the rudder by a few degrees. Now will the boat turn quickest if it is moving fast or slowly through the water? Of course we will have more force from the rudder when it is moving fast through the water and the boat will turn quickest when it is moving rapidly. Imagine what would happen otherwise if the speed of the boat approached zero. Is it common for owners of small power kites to put tails on them to reduce speed and thereby increase pull during low wind days? No of course not! Here is my (un-published not proof read) log from a day when I tried to reduce pull of my Fazel XL during a windy day:
  15. I'd say that the mountains doesn't seem to be completely surrounding the city. Even if they were I'd also say that one can't rule out that a local climate can form. After all, the the "smallest diameter" of the town seem to be about 25km. Say that the sun rises in the morning (common) and one side gets warm, the air gets warm and rises there and gets replaced with air from the sides - a wind blows that could be experienced at ground level? Here I fly the 4D in Monte Carlo during end of October last year. I didn't want to return here (there are so much to explore in other places nearby), but the rest of the family hadn't seen it. The wind direction (of the low wind) that day was so that it was blocked from the nearby mountains. Yet the air was not completely at rest and I had a quite OK session in the end and this is what I want to show - even though it didn't look good from the start I had a good time in the end! Or as expressed in my (non-published) flight log: I did also have a peek in Wikipedia about Climate in Santiago ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santiago#Climate ). The last line reads: "Prevailing winds are from the southwest, with an average of 15 km/h (9 mph), especially during the summer; the winter is less windy". At least for summers the mean wind speed according to this is ... a gentle breeze! Perhaps making sure you got one kite for lighter winds with you and focusing on finding fields is the way to go.