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  • Favorite Kite(s)
    silver fox2.5.
  • Flying Since
    my boy's been flying since he was about 12, hes 23 now
  • Location
    gold bar, wa.
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    Hi, I'm not the flyer its my boy who flies, but he doesn't post so I help him out, maintain his kites, spectate etc.
  1. Another thing we noticed about this kite is that it flew in about the same wind speed his atm sul fly's in, starting around 3-4 mph, pretty light wind for a std. It was slow and lazy but it flew and my boy doesn't have a lot of low wind experience with heavier kites. We are thinking about getting one to take the place of the atm and the std silver fox. keeping the atm just because and use the fox for a backup std. I think It will help some not having to change kites quite as much. btw, you going to greyland? if so we'll see you there.
  2. My boy had a chance to fly one at the ocean shores festival a few weeks ago and liked it quite a bit, granted he is not a pro flyer but how many out there are? He liked it primarily because it doesn't pull much, compared to his 2.5 silver fox std. He says its not as "floppy" as his atm but floppyier" than his new wmprosul. Thing for me is the widowmaker pro will retain its value better than the challenger in the long run. What happens if you break a rod in the challenger, skyshark is widly available but the rods in the challenger could be more of a problem. There were others at the festival who had one and they all seemed to say good things about it. still, some wanted to tweak it here and there. Decisions, decisions,.The silver fox could become his backup std.
  3. wow, what a Dream, flew like an angle, floated like a feather, turns on a dime, but flies a straight line like it on rr tracks. all this in 1-2 mph winds if you could call it wind. barely enough to feel it on your face. With very little effort. fun fun fun kite in low wind. Pics coming later. No tricking yet though, I won't let him till he has more time on it. here's a pic. That's my boy with the kite, his kite. he almost pulled off his first ever 360 on the first launch. It went about 3\4 the way around but the wind caught it a little and he lost it at the end
  4. It's finally gonna be here tomorrow, a month and a half wait. Maybe we'll take some pics to show, it was made to order with custom colors since none were in stock. Could have used it today as there wasn't much wind at all at the park.
  5. I've been to every kite festival in the northwest for longer than the abs has been out except the one in rockaway beach oregon. and have never seen one or heard of any talk about one. Not to say its not a good kite or anything, maybe its too hard to get or something. The revs being so dominant here probably has a lot to do with it. Would also like to hear some feedback about the abs for curiosity's sake.
  6. Yes, that's what Marieanne said today over the phone. I wanted to place my order tonight but the website wont let me because the sul is out of stock, I will have to call them tomorrow. I know it will take 3-4 weeks but if it comes before the ocean shores fest, Colton will be very happy. He hasn't broken his airwave zero yet so I feel pretty good about the investment. He had fun choosing his own color pattern. The zero has saved the show for us because of light winds quite a few times already, not only at kite shows but there are a lot of windless to very light wind days near here. I wanted a full size kite instead of the zero but at the time, no widowmakers were available anywhere. I wasn't sure if skyburner would get back in the game or not. Glad to see they are. Should be fair sky's ahead. He's pumped up now to fly, searching through lot of music to find new stuff to fly with. He found the new version of Behind blue eyes by limp Bizkit, may try that out for a ballet. Thanks for taking the time to reply, it was useful info, I didn't know if the kite had a leech line or not as the ng doesn't have one.
  7. Cool dude, that's what I wanted to hear. The lady at kites and fun things, I don't recall the name, I spoke to here briefly about the kite on Saturday and she mentioned your name and said to give you a holler. I'm sure it will do well, I was wondering though if its a noisy kite like the ng or quiet, I like the quiet ones, my boy seems to like the noisy ones. I can find out when I call the shop back if you don't get back to me so no biggie. Will have to order in the next few days so it can be ready by the ocean shores kite fest in June as it well have to be made from scratch. none of the sul's in stock. Thanks vey much for the reply. We watched you and your teammates fly last year at wsikf and it was a real inspiration for my boy. amazing work. Btw, do you still have the blue sportbrella? I saw an old post about that and had to reply, check it out, you may find it interesting.
  8. Wow, I have had the same blue sportbrella since I don't know when 2008-10 maybe and a smaller red one that's even older. I've used the blue one a lot more because its a 9 footer. I saw this and had to comment. My blue one has been to all the kite festivals in the nw for years, and it's been through living hell. Last year at the greyland festival the wind on Saturday was almost 30mph, the sound tent almost blew away. I had it set up behind the sound tent trying to get out of the wind but it was blowing so hard the wind blew around the backside and swirled behind the tent- it blew the sportbrella loose and it got inverted. I thought it was done. I got it home and all I needed to do was resew some of the loops that hold the frame to the material. I've rusted out the grommets, ripped out some of the hold downs only to resew them back, It's so faded now, it looks like an antique. I've ripped the storage bag strap off, poked holes in the bottom of the bag, each time I just pull out the trusty ole sewing machine and ttadaa, back in business. I've lost most of the sand stakes so now all the new stakes I can find are too large and won't go through the webbing, the knob stripped out that holds the extension pole, I went to lowes and bought a new knob for 3 bucks and drilled and tapped a new hole for it next to the old stripped out hole. good as new or better. Long live the Sportbrella!
  9. It's real enough, I'm looking into buying a widowmaker pro sul for my boy- I looking to get a full size kite for him to use when the wind is a bare minimum. Any thoughts on this one?
  10. Our Vertigos are holding up well, took them out for the first time the other day since-- last fall sometime- I set the kite up for my boy but got confused and put the lines on the back side by mistake and didn't notice for about a half hour or so. It actually flew almost normal, landings were a little rough though. It's been raining cats and dogs here for a long time, I can count the sunny days on one hand since the first of the year. The Walmart tire shine I put on the kite last year to help with the crease marks seems to still be doing its job, no adverse affects yet, at least not from being folded in the kite bag for six months. Can't say the same for my truck tires though they are a little brownish now and in need of a good scrubbing. Come on Sunshine!!
  11. Solid choice, the Exodus, One thing my boy noticed last season about the Vertigo is that it would fly in slightly less wind than any of the Rev's on the field, maybe just 1/2 mph or so but it did make some difference as to flying or just sitting in a chair. I'm not talking about a Zen though. I don't know if there's any difference in wind speed between the Exodus and the Vertigo as far as that goes, only what is stated on osk web site. Sometime last summer I noticed the wind speed rating had changed on the Vertigo from 3-15 to 4-15. The Exodus has always been rated for 4-15-----hmm. I think for a lot of people who live inland it won't matter much as the wind varyies more than it does here. The wind is usually quite calm most of the time here and fairly stable, We are on Puget Sound, north of Seattle so every little bit helps. After I bought the Vertigo I went back and forth about whether I made the right decision buying the Vertigo and not the Exodus, I'm still a little... up in the air about it all.
  12. I'm wondering if there's any difference in performance between the two. There's been no problem so far with the mesh on ours, albeit the kites are put away for the season now. pretty kite unfrlendly weather this time of year here. We're still new to quads and didn't realize there was a problem with the mesh on the rev kites till after much research. We had already purchased the vertigo without knowing about the problems with rev's or the creasing on the vertigo's. I didn't want to invest 3-400 dollars on a rev for my boy without knowing if he would stick with the quads, his other kites are all two line. - the vertigo was well recommended (thanks Wayne and Andy) and much less money. so-- If he wants to stick with the quads which he seems to like a lot now, maybe I'll look into a rev in the future. For now the Vertigo is holding it's own pretty well and there's no compelling reason to change at this time. Andy at osk's kite's is a good egg, I trust his opinion a lot and would not hesitate to take his advice or buy from him again.
  13. Two days drying time now and all is well, its been folded, bagged, and set up again with no new issues. I'm not using armor-all btw tried that and it didn't work much. Tire shine product has dried pretty well now and I can barely detect if it's greasy or not by feel. In other words, I'm not sure if it has an oily residue or not. 303 is good to know about but I'm not familiar with it. I might have tried it if I hadn't already used Tire shine. The kite still has a slight odor to it, the tire shine when you first apply it is quite strong but dissipates after a few days. I think perhaps more time will also help. I may give it a rinse with water after about a week or so and see what the effects are. We went to the field today to fly but there was absolutely no wind so we packed up and headed back home. West Marine has 303 but its 22 dollars a bottle. We go by there on our way to the flying field, {my boy and I} Thanks for the recommend, Maybe I'll pick up a bottle for the car. I never would have known, looks like good stuff.
  14. I did a small test area last week, about 3 in in dia and it looked ok so yesterday so I did the whole thing both sides. It takes at least a day to dry out. I sprayed some on and wiped with a paper towel, not oversaturated but not dry. After about four hours I took more paper towels and gave it a good wipe down to get all the excess off and to make sure the application was as uniform as possible. It's not quite as shiny today as expected but still has a sheen it didn't have before. It still needs more time to dry as I can still feel a little oil on it. same as when I did the test area. The crease marks are noticeably better, they are still there but there isn't much color distortion from the stress lines now. Time will tell, we might go fly sunday as now it gets dark too early to go after work and the weather, well, rain sat. It did darken the overall color of the kite a little as well, ours is the blue one. I stayed away from the mesh as much as possible I don't know what the spray will do to it so I left it alone. I can't find anything about this p20 fabric on the net so I don't know if its got a polyurethand coating or something else. I know icarex uses a pu coating on it. I think the problem is in the coating, not the fabric. it is a little lighter than icarex which also may have something to due with the problem. I used a product called tire shine from Walmart, about five bucks for the bottle. Tires look good too. says it contains silicone fluids, that's all.
  15. I just couldn't resist. Some of you may recall the talk about the crease marks from folding the freiiein Vertigo? Well someone gave me an idea about how to solve the problem by spraying some armor all on it, I tried a little but it didn't do much so I started looking around and found some tire shine I'd bought for my tires from wallyworld and decided that was the answer. I wiped some on and poof the stress marks were gone, mostly that is, the fold lines are still visible but at least the stress marks radiating out from them have all but disappeared. The kite now has a bonus shine to it like waxed fruit. gave it a more translucent appearance too. I am not recommending anyone else try this, if you do it's at your own risk, I don't mind taking a chance- it won't dent my wallet if it doesn't work out. Find out what it looks like in a week or two after it dries and ages more. Wish me luck anyone?