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Yes to a point....I’ve always liked to call them dancing kites....;) I would fly two off of one line....hence the dance. These daze I’m more partial to “glider” kites....both indoor and outdoors. (I am a drummer by profession and in each stick bag resides an iFlite.....) But then again I’m much more of a low wind kind of flyer to begin with. If there is more wind and I’m still in single line mode I’ll bring out some old “cubes” and fly two or three off one line......or I’ll pull out the prism eo6 or an eo atom. I also have another pair of the atom kite to fly two off one line. bt

Sent a pm with more info as to not clog this place up....;) bt

Yes the winds have been pretty stupid over the last 5 daze or so here on the west coast....no wonder your kite broke...;) I’m close by......Sunshine Coast....and started flying mid ‘90’s in Vanier....when I was in the city. Two things to check out in Van......go see Sally at her shop on Granville Island....yay a physical kite shop of sorts. She is waaay kewl!!!!! The other is where are you and where did/do you fly? Dunno if anyone flys at Vanier these daze. Apparently Garry Point park in Steveston is the place folks who share our love of kites congregate. That lot should be good source of info et al....... I live across the street from the beach on the SC...see the indoor Tsuru pic on site page and some vidz below.....and rarely go into the city. bt BeaTee Riddims Go fly a kite.... https://www.youtube.com/@aleatorasounds4033

Good stuff!!! The best “trick/maneuver” I learned many moons ago was to be able to crash gently..... Done me well!! bt

In the past....and advice from the ol’ GWTW forum...I have used a silicone lubricant on lines a la Riffclown’s method above...spray a wee bit on a cloth and run the lines through.... Usually I let the squeak sounds of the line tell me when to do this....;) One thing I’ve always done with quad lines is to reverse the lines after every session....ie the top lines get set up on as bottom lines next time... Dualies not so much, but I do reverse the lines from time to time. Another thing is a little over the top, but it has helped out and takes a couple more minutes to get airborne. I fly over a mixture of sand and pebble kind of beach depending on the tides so after unwinding I always return to the groundstake and walk the lines again through my fingers before attaching the kite, and then after the session repeat before winding and as mentioned I reverse the top and bottoms lines for the next session. When the lines get too worn out...ie very squeaky...I use them for the kites I have that I don’t mind dunking into the water....older beater revs for instance...some 25+ yrs old..... I don’t mind if those kites or lines get wet as again my flying field is determined by the tides....and am extremely fortunate that the beach is across the street from my house!!!!! Speaking of which I very rarely fly over grass....although on grass at times......puff puff... bt

After finally pulling the trigger on a KMac 61/49, Ken....BMK...announced he was/is ceasing the production of his 2 line lines....Mamba and Tsuru. So I decided....hey why not one more BMK for the collection? I lucked out and got an order in for the second to last dual line kite he will be making....an UL Tsuru in this case. I have a modest collection of both Aerie and BMK kites and had waffled on a Tsuru for a while....and when I got his email I went for it!!!! Mr. MacNeill has made some of the bestest kites ever for many many years, and akin to the Kirk’s making the old Skyburner kites (especially the ProDancer line!!!!!!), they just can’t be beat, and I will treasure them even more now. He is turning his attention to single liners and from what he has been producing already it will be very interesting to see what he comes up with......I’ll be saving up for sure!!!!! Thanks Ken!!!!!!! bt

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Oooo yeah!!!!! Good on ya!!!! One of the first things I learned when starting this long kite journey was how to crash very gently. Best trick/maneuver ever!!!!! Today....tide’s going out and wind is picking up a wee bit. Kite(s) will either be BMK dualies if winds are lowish and Revs if it picks up, and of course a single line glider if the wind goes somewhere else..... bt

Kewel......a mylar sail!!!! That’ll probably take a good wind...it will be beautiful in the air.....great to play with (the) light. I always wanted an all mylar Rev, and still have a 1.5 with mylar panels. I know there was an all mylar Prism Radian made that I snoozed on and loosed..... I owned this kite at one time......a mylar Enigma ul by the late great Steve Tapp of Tappestry kites. bt

There were a few kites where the upper spreader was optional depending on the windspeed. The Trick Tail SUL did not come with an upper spreader iirc, and I remember a couple other sul’s where no upper spreader was added. My Aerie AirFX’s came with two upper spreaders to change the aspect ratio for example. So given that, over the last few daze I have been flying some Aerie/BMK kites as Ken is building me a 61/49!!!!! Again I’m not in the habit of taking pics, but from past pix here is a BMK Mojo (showing it’s “lines”), a trio of Aerie Air FX’ (I flew the two standards), and an old vid of a BMK Mongoose that I’ve put a “soundtrack” to as I’ve been experimenting with some sound design thingies....lol. These, along with a Rev 1.5 NY minute, and an Emong have been flown this past week. bt Hear kites here.... https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJzmAJbawZyfstvn2QW8WSw

They come/came from Dave at the Kite Connection shop. I had a few of his “shop customs” over the years. One was in these colours but vented....long gone now. Check with him and he may be able to help. I was perusing the site and the ones he has now are NYM in the colour scheme. The B ones are probably long gone but ya never know...as he has found kites tucked away...;) bt

First off it’s always a good thing to have a few sets of lines in different weights and lengths. In your case, as you have found, an 80’ lineset will accompany a 65’ just fine and give you a wider window to fly in....;) If there is no kite store in your neck of the woods then check out this forums sponsors to the right of these posts.....fine kite shops with great folks.....one of them has your kite listed with a different weight of lines.... You can check out their pre made linesets or buy bulk and make your own....I’m sure there’s tutorials on this fine site as well....re making linesets. There are also shops that will custom make any weight and or length you want.....but this will be spectra line (not dyneema) which is better anyway....another can of worms shall we say....;) bt

I use three different length(s) of handles…..BUT….they are for three different sized kites…;) Longer handles…or known as ul handles are used for bigger kites and/or for no to low winds. A change to longer handles plus a change of frame to a 2 wrap will lower the wind range a bunch. Rev made some indoor handles as well….I like them with a Rev 2 sporting a 2 wrap frame. The original Rev 1.5 sized, and shaped, quad kite seems to be the norm across the board these daze and has been for quite some time irregardless of the amazing companies….note the plural!!!!…that are producing some real nice kites!!!! This…1.5…sized kite is quite lovely, but I like a Rev 1 sized kite the bestest, followed by a 2……then a 1.5 size. A couple of each size and generally…15” handles for the 1; 12/12” for the 1.5; 10” for the 2 and have an original 9” set for a 2. All old school…not knotless…;), some foam a little thicker and some not, steel and graphite…. All stock Rev handles, and except for a couple, are a fixed leader with no adjustment knots. Over many years I have dialed in the handles for each kites size and bridle, and more often will change frames or change handles…going to a smaller handle in strong wind or a longer handle for no to low wind. Besides I can’t stand a knot/length or two of leader line flapping around at the line attachment….even with knotless handles…..there’s still a knot…a small quirk… bt

Yep....can’t go wrong with an Air FX or three......;) bt

The ol’ adage...practise practise practise......lol. A lot depends on the windspeed along with the kite itself, so different “pull and punch” techniques and timings may be involved. All of your references and methods will work....but all must have that back to neutral, and depending on the wind...a step or two forward, more in a goodly amount of wind...;)....as the kite is stalled to properly paste it to the sky. bt

Flew a couple…almost out of their wind ranges….on purpose…..a Prism Zero G and a Flying Wings Grace. Wind was about 5 mph or so and both kites handled the wind just fine. I like the Grace in next to nothing as well as up to about 5 or so….the big wing vent being that ticket, and it “skates” more than glides. I don’t enjoy the Zero G in zero wind, as I have other much more enjoyable glider kites for the literal no wind to wee puff daze. However for me the Zero G comes alive at about 3-4 mph…and today was waaaay fun!!!!! No pix as I don’t have a cel phone and did’t bother with my little cheapo camera….a break in our Juneuary weather lately…..better a memory than a pic…;) bt

Well they are generally called precision kites....a little bigger and more slower.... These daze kites are a lot quieter than in the past....I have a JS Neptune like in your pic and it is the only one I have that will make some noise...like a flying fish farting.....lol. Still an amazing kite after all these years!!! It has to be a real Sky Delight though...;) I am a no wind glider, an all wind Rev flier, and a low wind dual kitester myself. I’m also an old school flier that’s not into tricking per se as I fly kites to slow down and have no interest in the yank and spank flying....although I do admire folks who can do really kewl “tricks”....but whatever...to each their own. Ken Mcniell.....aka Kmac.....Blue Moon kites....makes amazing kites.....I have a modest collection...;)....that bridge the gap perfectly between old school/new school and precision and trick flying....my fav dualies by far!!!! bt

Howdy do and welcome!!!! Yoweee……that could be a Buena Vista x4i…??? A most excellent kite btw……. bt

Like frob says….depends on the kite……however generally….yes the LE will slide to the rear or bottom of the kite for flying, and then slid back up to the nose for packing up. The spine and cross spreader will keep the tension on the nose and front while flying. Most kites will fly if the LE are not pushed down with a bunch of flapping but only if you like it that way… ….or if the kite is/was designed like and for that. Also, pix are most welcome here….as are you!!! bt

Yep...the setting is quite nice.....the beach across the street from my house...the tides dictate the size of the flying space....... Winds were probably 4-5mph or so...probably 90x90 lines...a long time ago but I rarely fly any kites when whitecaps are present....I’m an old skool low wind flier.... I’m a longtime “kitist” who doesn’t like a lot of wind....the less the better!!!!! To be honest I never really care about the windspeed and just go with how I’m feeling that day and how fast or slow I feel I like flying. The Revz this size...9’x3’....Sedgwick 1, Zen, Robertshaw 1 (all with multi frames) get put away when the wind gets to about 7 or so....but I rely more on the pull of the kite rather than windspeed.....if too much I’ll change to a 1.5 or a 2 sized Rev....or pack up, go home and make funny sounds. I’m a drummer and sound designer by trade so aleatoric principle of music composition could be as “relatively” simple as a polyrhythm or polymetric rhythms. What I also do sometimes is design a sound and then add in or on another disparate sound and see what happens. As far as this vid goes I found some old vids of the blue/yellow kite and then wanted a stark(er) soundtrack because of what’s going on across the other side of the world. The music is an excerpt and by chance, randomness, and the aleatoric principle they just fit per se.....given I put this together real quickly to lend a “voice”. The only non aleatoric thing was I removed an audio track to make the excerpt a little starker to more act as a juxtaposition of the kites dance, the spiffy sky, and flying area. I’ve also started a series of works where the kites movement will dictate the movement of the soundtrack....like a graphic score. Please check this vid link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xabYn35ngaY as it scratches the surface of aleatoric music....and as well, in the mid ‘90’s while still in the city, I was working for a vid game company doing R and D as described more or less in the vid. I would put my vid game ditties on a cassette and then go flying to see if things worked....was almost like getting paid to fly kites..... Ironically I have absolutely zero interest in vid games but was way kewl to partake in the R and D as they didn’t want any of the normal action soundtrack stuff. As for a live performance example please check out this bit of lunacy...we were conducted by cue cards and were instructed to play whatever we wanted as to what the cue card suggested.....I’m one of the drummers....with glasses.... bt

I'm working on a series of kite flying vids and sounds/music's, and was pretty well ready to do some online testing....however when perusing vid material I remembered a kite I had many moons ago.....a blue and yellow Rev 1. With a situation at hand I quickly changed course and put this together as the test.....aleatorically...as that's the way I work sonic wise....and now video wise as well...lol. btw I still have a few Rev1's about.....my fav quads!! bt

Crossed posted to vids as well...... I'm not saying anything except I was/am in the throes of a kite flying vid/sound design project and in my perusing I remembered I used to have a blue and yellow Rev 1...... I quickly changed course from my test runs and put this together instead as it is/was a little more appro these daze..... btw even though I sold this one many moons ago, I still have a few Rev 1's about....;).....my fav quads!!!! bt