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  1. Beginner kite selection information guide

    That's good to know about the lack of parts availability on the freebird. I wonder how parts availability is for the Dream On. I had an oversteer problem with my Prism E3. I never figured out what caused it. I do know that it was a heavy kite, but have no idea if it was the bridle setup, the weights, or my flying technique. I am surprised that the Wolf NG has oversteer. It weighs 9 oz, is a pretty good size at 6.71' wide, and is a wrapped carbon and 2400 fiberglass frame. I am not sure if that means composite rods, or that some rods are carbon and others are fiberglass. I have seen some pretty good flyers on youtube tricking pretty well with it. I am not sure if it has a tail weight but I was told that removing it helps if you are just flying around and not trying to trick, but I don't know. I am lucky that several kite shops in the NW can do full kite repairs, cut and make custom rods, sleeved line sets, etc. Ocean Shores Kites, The Kite Company in Newport Or. And the kite Shoppe in Vancouver Wa for line sets.
  2. Beginner kite selection information guide

    Haha. I will leave that list to someone else, in a different topic. I have been into the technical information of dyneema and spectra before, so it isn't as much of a mystery to me, and so not as interesting.
  3. I hadn't considered that, but I will from now on. In retrospect, I should have just accepted the offer right off, I would have had time to get comfortable flying my kite first anyway.
  4. I wasn't trying to insult anyone, and I didn't say never. I have only flown 6 times, and not in many years. I just got my kite the other day, so after I get a few hours to get comfortable again, than I am ready. That doesn't seem unreasonable to me. I understand what you are saying though, if someone makes the offer then that is their prerogative.
  5. I have a reason for selecting those tricks. Because I really like the flying part where the kite is mostly moving forward, and those tricks look to me like they would fit in with the type of flying I want to do. I have no idea what tricks are most easily accessible for me but those are the ones I want to learn.
  6. I appreciate the offer. I think it's best that I don't fly anyone's expensive kites just yet until I get some more hours of practice in. I would certainly bring my kite and go flying with you when I am over that way though. I have been waiting for it to cool down before making a trip over there. Funny thing is when I used to wakeboard on the Columbia down by Wallula, we would be bummed out when the wind would come up, and of course it would when you didn't want it to. But then we would just go out and blast around on the jet skis. There is an area I used to ride called Juniper Dunes Ohv area. It is up the Snake river and to the north. I know that there is a wilderness dunes area out there also that I have always wanted to hike out to. Maybe I will have to take a kite out there, it is fairly remote.
  7. Where is Lam Hoac located? I just noticed you live in Richland Wa. I used to motocross at the horn rapids race track near there. I lived in the Walla Walla area for a few years, and I still have relatives and friends there. I still get over that way sometimes. Lots of nice open areas and farm fields to fly in around that area for sure. I will be bringing my kites with me and do some flying when I go there again.
  8. I hear you on that one. Grew up skiing, doing motocross, wheeling, snowboarding, rock climbing, and the list goes on. Now I can't do much of the high impact sports, and don't really care or have the money for most of the other stuff anymore. The thing about kite flying is that it isn't very productive compared to fixing your house, or car etc. and there are many important activities in life that actually do require productive attention competing for a persons time. But when you have had enough of that being productive nonsense, or have the luxury of time it is pretty relaxing to go fly a kite. Which hobby might that be? If you don't mind talking about it that is.
  9. Beginner kite selection information guide

    Thanks, I deleted that part and added your input. Keep the information coming, it is a work in progress. I will continue to add input and correct it as needed.
  10. I have been reading the beginner kite advice threads and noticed that I was looking for much of the same information about selecting kites that a lot of other beginners were asking about. I thought it would have been nice to have a consolidated page of kite selection advice from experienced flyers available for beginners like me to reference. So I compiled some of the tips and concepts that I have read in posts on various topics here, and although incomplete it might be a starting point to build on. Hope nobody minds that I used and paraphrased some of their comments. I tried to keep it focused on the different aspects involved for selecting a kite. This is a work in progress, and I will edit, delete, and change content as necessary. Input is welcome. Dual line sport kite selection guide, definitions, and in depth reasoning This guide might help a person doing research to be aware of the limitations and performance differences between different types and sizes of kites. The first step when trying to figure out what kite to get, would be to decide what type of flying you want to do. Whether you just want to fly around, or whether you want to do precision flying, or maybe step up to performing freestyle tricks also called stunts. Outgrow a kite means: Reaching the limits of what you can do with that kite. When your skills progress beyond the capability or trick potential of the kite. This limitation could be caused by the kite size, materials, design, build, or the conditions it is suited to fly in. Flying means: The kite is moving in a forward or nose first direction. This is the direction that a kite naturally travels when it has enough lift to fly. In general, it is directional flying and turning, without stunt or trick flying. Precision flying means: The kite is moving in a forward direction, but accurate movements such as turns, or patterns are being performed, and the ability for the kite to respond precisely to line control inputs is required. Consistent stable tracking or the ability to maintain a set course of flight is needed. Trick or stunt flying means: Performing other movements, or combinations of movements, primarily with the kite in a stalled or non-flying state. Stunt trick ability is generally based on a kites potential to be controlled in a stall. Stall means: The kite is no longer producing lift sufficient to make forward moving headway. It could be hovering in a controlled stall, or even falling. A stall is defined as the aerodynamic loss of lift that occurs when an airfoil (such as the wing of an airplane or kite sail) exceeds its critical angle of attack. For trick flying, select a full-sized kite with a wingspan of at least 7’ tip to tip. The 7’ foot and larger kites will move a little slower and feel more controllable & predictable, and give you more time to react and learn. It will have a wider wind range than a smaller kite due to their larger sail size. Larger kites can generally fly in a lower wind due to the larger sail size. They are usually easier control and maneuver during a stall, which is where freestyle tricks are normally performed. For non trick flying, selecting a kite of 6' foot (72”) or less, it will be faster flying than the larger kites, and will require a little more wind to get flying due to the smaller sail size, and require less input on the lines, and can be more difficult or even impossible to properly stall and do tricks. They will be twitchier (which means it will turn very quickly, with a high probability of over steer). As for it needing higher winds - that depends on the weight of the kite, but as a general rule, smaller wingspan kites (under 70") usually do need a little more wind than say an 80" - 100" wingspan kites, and will also fly through the sky a bit faster as well. Also shorter wingspan kites are a little harder to trick. For Precision kites: If precision flying is the main goal, do not assume that a dedicated stunt kite will be the best choice as it may or may not have high precision. If you are on a budget, selecting a cheap kite in the smaller size range (6' and under) may be the only option you have and will at least get you flying. However kites in the $100 or below price range are not usually as stall or stunt capable, and if you are trying to learn tricks this could limit your progress, and as your skills surpass the kites potential for tricks you would "outgrow" the kite. Consider that kite manufacturers promotional flying videos can be misleading because they usually have a world-class pilot flying in the video, leading consumers to believe that it will fly like that for them, too. Manufacturers wind speed ratings are not always accurate. It may not be possible for everyone to fly a kite at the lowest wind speed rating.
  11. That's good information to know.
  12. That's really cool. The Widowmaker Pro, Nirvana, and now the AC or Mind Trick are on my short list for higher end kites to consider. Seems like the more I look into kites the more questions I have. I am ready to get to the flying part.
  13. I will have to look into these closer.
  14. I have a fairly short bucket list of tricks that I want to learn. Like a slide, snap stall, half axle, full axle, and slot machine. The comete, and insane look interesting. I don't know that much about tricks yet.
  15. Interesting. I had looked at those same kites. Also that your son likes the Widow NG but you not so much. Nice collection. Any thoughts comparing the Sky burner to the Lam Hoac as far as the materials and build quality?