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    My own builds, rev inspired.
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    Spokane WA
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    Kite Flying of course! And Kite Building. Photography. Music; both listening and composing (and performing a long while ago now).
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  1. MakingSnagProofRev.Handles

    Thanks riffclown You have inspired me to think about your process for tying knots and designing my own jig. I will let you all know how it turns out... I will also share a picture of my jig when I am successful. I am very accurate with tying and spacing my knots under tension using a rule and marking the knot tying points but it is very tedious. And matching identical knot assemblies such as a bridle or leader requires some adjustments afterwards if there were slight errors. Perhaps the jig can make my process more consistent.
  2. MakingSnagProofRev.Handles

    Does anyone have tips for how to tie precisely spaced knots for the pigtails besides just using a rule? I have heard something about a "nail board" or some sort of fixture to tie the knots.
  3. Suggestions on Finding Indoor Places

    I just discovered this place today. Several elementary schools here in the Spokane WA area were built with a similar design that included an "elements protected area" perhaps for recess activities when the weather was not all that great. The area is protected from wind on 3 sides and on top. The width of the area is ~ 25-30' and the height matches the adjacent gym and slopes off, at least double my height. I plan to enjoy flying my iflight there and then begin learning how to fly an indoor quad. Segel
  4. Welcome jeromeo

    Hello Jeromeo and welcome to KiteLife! So you are wanting to learn about quadline kites... this is the right place to get some great advice and help. Are you learning to fly a quad now or looking for one to purchase for the first time? Enjoy exploring this website, Segel
  5. Welcome billbruen

    Welcome to KiteLife! There are many resources here. How is your kiting experience in Lancashire and what brought you to KiteLife? What kinds of kites do you like to fly? Best Winds, Segel
  6. Welcome UrbanFly

    Hello UrbanFly, Welcome to KiteLife! Where do you hail from? And by your username do you fly in Urban environments frequently? Regards, Segel
  7. Single handed photos of flying duals

    That is very impressive to fly a dual line kite with one hand! Imagine flying one in the other hand at the same time, I bet you could do it. Regards, SF
  8. KiteLife chat phasing out...

    How about the "bird-cry" sound your kite makes occasionally in just the right wind conditions?
  9. Getting Going

    2 lbs of tension won't be enough to set your lines, you probably already know that. 2 lbs is enough to equalize your lines though once they have been set or used for a while. I should have also mentioned that step 6 (Double Check Line Length) could be performed first in order to check your lines to see if they need to be adjusted. SF
  10. Getting Going

    "Pulling" back to the subject of line equalization... I have a very precise way to make my own line-sets. There are parts of my procedure that can also apply to "line equalization". I will summarize them here. Materials needed: ~4 feet of 1/8" shock cord 1" square of scrap Dacron or other padding material. forceps, or suitable clamp 5 tent stakes. I make and equalize my lines under tension. It is important to provide equal tension to each line. You will find that you become frustrated if you lay out four 120' lines (rough cut), grab all of them in your hand and pull some tension, cut them all to the same length; trying the procedure a second time you will find some of your lines are longer or shorter by 1/4 inch or more. I designed a Tensioning Tool and method that prevents this problem from happening and it is really quite a simple design (even if the explanation seems long). This is not a "field fix" and it does take some time... but if you find a day with No Wind and want to do something kite-related, this is something both rewarding and practical that you can do to get that "kite fix" on those days. Step 1. Make a Tensioning Tool. Create a set of Tensioning Shock Cords. I use 1/8” shock cord. Cut four 10" lengths and seal the ends by melting them with a lighter. Tie a knot at both ends. Sew a "mark" stitch close to one end (I use red thread). Tie another mark stitch exactly 3 inches away from the first. (note, I used a more accurate method of suspending each piece of shock cord with a 2 lb weight and then defining my "mark" threads, however the shock cord is probably uniform in "stretch per length" for these short lengths. For this purpose you can probably get away with just tying the "mark" knots with the cord relaxed). Make 4 staggered tethering lines out of a material that wont stretch, I used bridle line. Tie a loop in both ends of these with enough length to tie larks head knots. Tie each of these to the Tensioning Shock Cords with a larks head knot. You will also need a clamp, I use forceps, and also a small piece of Dacron or other material to protect the lines when you clamp them (explained later). This picture should help clarify what I just described: Picture of Tools Step 2. Setup one end of your lines (Fixed End) Lay out your lines and place one of the tent stakes in the ground, deep, so it wont pull out. Loop all four ends of your line set onto this one stake. This is the end that you will NOT be adjusting. The "Fixed End". Step 3. Setup the Adjustment End of your lines At the other end of your lines, tie a larks head knot from your lines onto each Tensioning Tool. One line at a time, pull the tether with a tent stake inserted at the end until the marks on the Tensioning Tool are exactly 4" apart (stretched now and under tension). Insert the tent stake in the ground (deep) so that it does not move and verify that the marks are still 4" apart. Do this for each line. You will also see why the tether lengths need to be different to allow each stake to be put in the ground while keeping the lines close together. Step 4. Equalize the lines With each line under equal tension as described in Step 3, clamp all four lines close to the Adjustment End with the Tensioning Tool. Make sure to use padded protection between the lines and your clamp so that you do not damage your lines. This is where you use the piece of 1" square Dacron. Once the lines are clamped you may now remove the four tent stakes at the adjustment end. Untie the sleeving from each line and push it towards the clamp that holds your four lines. Pull the "Adjustment Ends" of all four of the lines together with very little tension and either cut the ends to a new uniform length or mark them with a sharpie where the new equalization point should be. (note, cutting the lines also requires having to melt the ends to keep them from fraying. Just mark the lines if you do not feel comfortable melting your line ends). Step 5. Finish your lines. Remove the clamp. Move your sleeves back to the equalized mark (if you marked your lines), or so that a equal amount of line is exposed beyond your sleeves (1/8th inch or so if you cut your lines). Re-tie your end loop at the Adjustment End. Insure that the End Loop Lengths are exactly the same length between all four lines (knot to end of loop) and that the amount of line exposed beyond the sleeve is also exactly the same for each line. Step 6. Double Check (optional) With all four lines still secured at the Fixed End and the clamp removed, reattach all four lines to the Tensioning Tool cords and pull each line under tension until the red thread marks are 4 inches apart. All the lines should now be the same length. Hopefully my experience is helpful but it does require some work. SF
  11. I should have included this information in my post... Two chain washers weigh 1.7g (.06 oz). My new kite weighs 230g (8.1 oz) -> rev Mid-vent equiv with two-wrap rev rods; shock cords are not trimmed yet. The addition of two chain washers will only increase the weight of the the kite defined above by .7% I like the field-fix idea . Considering a tear as I experienced, a bottle cap washer with two holes could allow one to continue to fly; it would support the vertical displacement of the shock cord loop against the remaining Dacron and there would still be plenty of meat left on the horizontal portion of the LE end for the required shock cord tension to the rod end. Add a pocket knife or multi-tool to the things you should bring along with you for emergencies. I plan to. Make sure the tool has the equivalent of an awl or pointed knife tip to make the holes. Thanks Mark. SF
  12. My kite was recently damaged by wind conditions that were too strong for my sail choice that day; I had become overly anxious to fly a kite that I had built this winter and had been eagerly waiting for an opportunity to fly. As a result of this mistake, the shock cord that attaches the leading edge rod to the sail, tore the Dacron tab between the two holes in which the cord passes through and is tied in a knot on the backside of the LE. I admit that this happened because of a slight design flaw in making a leading edge out of one piece of Dacron and using holes to replace the screen mesh. In my design I chose not to extend the end tab to the sail, which is how the example LE appeared to be made. In repairing the damage I also came up with an idea to improve the shock cord attachment to the LE. I have always been bothered by how the two holes and knot "bunches up" the LE at the end distorting the top edge of the kite as a result. I wanted to find a reinforcing washer that had two holes in it spaced the same distance as the holes in my LE. The washer had to be light weight, rigid, have the holes spaced properly, and have a hole diameter to match that of the shock cord. "Is that too much to expect?" you might ask. Well I thought so too and was considering making the washers myself... however as I imagined "re-purposing" things that Aren't washers to Be washers I came up with this solution: This is part of a chain link for a standard #35 drive chain. Once I recognized that the shape of the outer links might be a solution I found a chain size chart that gave the specifications for a variety of #'d chains. The #35 had hole spacing (i.e. Pitch) of 3/8" with hole diameter (i.e. Pin diameter) just slightly larger than 1/8". This was a perfect match for what I had imagined! So after repairing the tear with two pieces of Dacron (one on each side), using the new washer, and a banana (carry over from my "You Know You're a Kite Nut When..." post), I made the modification to both sides of the LE: Items used for the repair. The repair completed. The LE is no longer distorted at the ends and the tear that occurred between the two holes will not happen again. I plan on adding the washers to my other kite sails. Hopefully this idea might help some of you as well. SF
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  14. You might be a kite nut.

    You might be a Kite Nut when you check “Windfinder” every day to find a 1 hr window that is flyable in your area. Spokane WA has very sporadic wind for kite flying. Last Saturday it rained all day, as predicted in the news. According to Windfinder it was supposed to be very windy and rainy, but at 3:00 PM the rain was supposed to stop and the wind was supposed continue to be strong; too strong it turns out. I was out running errands that day, with my kite bag in the car and at 2:45 headed to the field. 3:00, sun came out, wind was there, and I had about an hour of flight time before my kite broke. And the rain started again. Some would think but instead I felt I was able to practice some things that I have been waiting to improve on all winter, waiting on some proper wind to do so… Worth breaking a kite for. My kite breaking revealed a weakness in the design that allowed me to create an improvement to keep it from happening again. Also worth breaking a kite for. I am now fixing my kite using “Go-Cart” drive chain parts, Dacron, and a banana to do so. After all, I am a Kite Nut (ok, not a banana, but the rest is true). I hope to share this experience with you all in another post when my repair is complete. SF
  15. Welcome Nekoshi

    If you decide to call Skydog, ask for Jim Christianson. He was the "artist" for "Go Fly a Kite", designing the catalogs and kite colors for each season. He is now the founder and owner of Skydog: See the "Design" topic below in the following link: Interesting archived NYT article here regarding Jim's color choices for sail design and the history of the Go Fly a Kite company: Jim could probably even tell you the story behind the color choices in your kite. SF