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[Spence Watson]

I recently found a new field in town to fly in, and thought it to be a great place to start filming my outdoor tutorials. As in the Windless With Watty thread, I will make a new post, and edit the first post every time I come out with a new video. I do not want to include any technique oriented things in these tutorials because that is something that is very complicated, and difficult to explain even through video.

Flic Flack:


Axel:


Falling Leaf:


Toss and Catch:


*BONUS* This is not part of my Windy With Watty videos but is a tutorial, so I might as well post it here. This is not something that I would normally make a tutorial of, but someone was having trouble with it and contacted me, so I made this video.

1/4 Turn Clock Work


Bicycle Spins:

[Jynx]

Watty ~

You make it look toooooo dang easy!

Can't wait to try it out!

THANKS AGAIN for all your time and effort! You Rock!!!!!!!!

[John Barresi]

Nice work Watty, I've gotta debate the method on that flic flac however...

A proper flic flac is started with a hard hit on the bottom lines, and AGAIN on the same (bottom) lines to recover.

This is contrary to the instructions you provided, which state that you basically hit hard reverse, then the forward lines.

Just figured I'd offer my 2 cents.

[ant man]

very nice work watty ..

[Spence Watson]

Kitelife, on Mar 28 2009, 07:46 AM, said:

Nice work Watty, I've gotta debate the method on that flic flac however...

A proper flic flac is started with a hard hit on the bottom lines, and AGAIN on the same (bottom) lines to recover.

This is contrary to the instructions you provided, which state that you basically hit hard reverse, then the forward lines.

Just figured I'd offer my 2 cents.

Like any thing, there are many different methods. My logic behind pulling on the top lines at the end is that the other end of the top lines is farther away from you than the other end of the bottom lines. So, it's a little easier to pull on those top lines. Do you see what I mean by this? Plus, when the kite is in the "Flic" position, I guess we can call it, the top lines are being lied over the trailing edge, so when the top lines are pulled, not only is it pulling the leading edge up, but it is pulling the trailing edge back down.

[John Barresi]

True, but you'll get two entirely different results...

The method you described tends to make a "whump-whump" kind of sound, and doesn't generally flic the kite all the way over so the back of the sail if flat to you.

Hard hit with both bottom lines and a step towards the kite flips it over so the back is square to you, then another hard hit with both bottoms lines and a step back will flac the kite back to flight position... Sound is more like "SNAP-SNAP".

All comes down to style, but I've found the latter method to be more consistent and better looking.

[Aerochic]

Kitelife, on Mar 28 2009, 09:51 AM, said:

Hard hit with both bottom lines and a step towards the kite flips it over so the back is square to you, then another hard hit with both bottoms lines and a step back will flac the kite back to flight position... Sound is more like "SNAP-SNAP".

All comes down to style, but I've found the latter method to be more consistent and better looking.

Hmmm, interesting! Do know of any Youtubes you might have done this move in? I think I understand what you're saying, but I'm better with visuals...

[John Barresi]

Sorry, I just did a cruise through my video lists, couldn't find a proper example.

The difference is really obvious from the side view.

[John F]

Watty, on Mar 28 2009, 09:33 AM, said:

Kitelife, on Mar 28 2009, 07:46 AM, said:

Nice work Watty, I've gotta debate the method on that flic flac however...

A proper flic flac is started with a hard hit on the bottom lines, and AGAIN on the same (bottom) lines to recover.

This is contrary to the instructions you provided, which state that you basically hit hard reverse, then the forward lines.

Just figured I'd offer my 2 cents.

Like any thing, there are many different methods. My logic behind pulling on the top lines at the end is that the other end of the top lines is farther away from you than the other end of the bottom lines. So, it's a little easier to pull on those top lines. Do you see what I mean by this? Plus, when the kite is in the "Flic" position, I guess we can call it, the top lines are being lied over the trailing edge, so when the top lines are pulled, not only is it pulling the leading edge up, but it is pulling the trailing edge back down.

John when you are flicking you are getting a partial wrap if I understand what you are saying. The big difference is giving enough slack with a step forward to allow the additional rotation.

Is what Watty is showing what you call falling leaf or something similar. This is what I have been doing and it is ok but it is easy for the kite to rotate horizontally in lighter winds.

Tomorrow I will be trying your flic flac.

Has anyone ever achieved a full wrap? It seems like the structure of REV is not conducive to that.

[sirrom]

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Is what Watty is showing what you call falling leaf or something similar.
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I think a falling leaf is when you flic and leave it there and it floats or flutters for a while as it comes down in a horizontal position then flac later to the original hover.