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  2. Wow world record with 1000 students building and flying their kites at the same time. Didn't know there was so much info on your father. Even at Kite Life. Lots more to read.You people had a 600% rise in kite builders income in just 3 years . That's astonishing!!!. Sounds like your pops and his friends had a lot of influence in that.You too. Some of you need to head to the USA and give us a kick in the pants. Festivals and kiting seem to be faltering here. I live in a large area county of 675,00 plus and have never seen quality kites of any type flying around this area. Lots of big balloons but no kites. We have pretty good winds too.Need to figure out how to change that.Finally connected with some stunt kite fliers but it's over a hundred miles to meet up. Worth it though. The yearly county fair is in a little town 22 miles north of here. Talked to a government worker yesterday about getting some kiting going on for the next fair. Maybe.My 2nd year kiting will begin next month. Bought a sewing machine and materials not long after getting my 1st kite. Backed off and concentrated on learning to fly. This next year I'll start learning the art of kite building. Gonna be fun. Goal is a 100 mph framed speed kite that won't make my arms longer or flatten my nose from faceplants. Flying with you and your dad would be a blast. Will keep following fly360. Great stuff.It's going to teach me a bunch. P.S. I'm more of a Pluto fan LOL.
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  4. Breezin

    Hi all from the East of England

    It's full size. Heard last year the run was done. Don't actually know.It is full size and if under 200.00 U.S.I think it would be worth chasing. Prism has a international line and excellent customer service. Calling them might get you some good leads. I've just about pulled the trigger on a couple 3d deals and on more 4ds then I can remember. Don't want this to sound snobby but it kinda is. When 1st reading up on kites I took the advice buy the best you can afford and grow into it. So I did. So should you. So should every newbie. See kinda snobby. Keep in mind though that when I read about or see pics of a 30,40,50 or 60 kite collection I don't think that's excessive at all . Never flown a 3d or 4d but have seen the 4d on the wall at Into The Wind kite shop. Nice looking kite. To me it seems like a tweener kite. Not really a indoor but close. Above five mph a lot of people think it's fast and twitchy. So not really a kite for the gusties where I live.That is remedied in a lot of fast twitchy kites with lighter inputs and great skills. I still struggle with both so I've bought other kites. Some folks think the 4d is tough. Others not so much. Another reason I think it's a tweener. 4d is awful light and I might have more in parts by now than the initial cost.I tend to go with 80% positive on a kite. I'm to kite poor to risk bad decisions even though there are some 50/50 kites I'd like to try. French Connection for one..I think the Level One Amazing Outdoor would be more up my alley.If I do get a 4d I think I'd like it. Kinda like fast easy to oversteer kites at times. I've read there are a few simple mods you can do on the 4d to stabilize it some. Some people tweak the bridles a bit. Small magnets along TE and wingtips.Nothing permanent and can go back to stock fast.The ease of modding the 4d is why I keep thinking about getting one. Could be a great little lower priced kite with the potential of having quite a few different characteristics I'd like . Just want a Widow Maker Pro sul a lot, lot more. See kinda snobby .
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  6. Gentler, certainly, but that's not a bad thing. Kites can have high pull and fast speeds that are beyond beginner's skill, that doesn't mean people with intermediate and expert skills will ONLY fly those kites. Not every kite day needs to be an upper-body workout. A lazy day flying kites means flying gentler kites. A kite can be beginner-friendly can can also be fun to fly.
  7. Gladders

    Hi all from the East of England

    Can you still get the Zephyr? There's only one prism stockist in the UK that I know of and they don't carry it. Is it full size? The 4D looks interesting. Small and very light.
  8. Breezin

    Hi all from the East of England

    Folks say low wind flying skills are the hardest to acquire. For me 0 to 4 and 25 to 30 mph have been the hardest. Both take finesse but the higher wind demands an extremely capable kite, fast reactions and very precise timing.The only 20+ trick kites I know that are consistently being made with most models are Lam Hoac kites. My Mind Trick vented would be THE kite if I could only keep 1. The wind range is extraordinary. I can fly it in 4 to 5. Starts tricking in 6 and will fly over 30. Got it 2nd hand. Person said they'd only flown it once and I believe it. Heckuva deal. Very pricy new but Lams kite are worth more than the money spent IMHO. When researching you'll find 2 general trains of thought on low wind kites.Some believe a sul should fly in o winds(Pro Dancer). Others will say that's not sul trick kite territory that's the 0 wind kite realm(Kaiju). Neither differing opinion has given me bad info. Just different. When looking at kites I try to see the builders goal at why their producing that kite for that wind range. Gets most confusing when looking at low wind kites. For low wind I have a Zephyr ul(production), Pro Dancer sul(custom) and a Tekken sul(used custom). All 3 fly very different. While the PD will fly very well from 1 mph up to 10 it has been the most difficult kite for me to learn out of all that I've flown. Well except getting my butt kicked by my Delta Hawk in 20+ and giving up on a Elliot Jet Stream Speed(WILL REVISIT). Recently 2 people flew my PD for a short while. Nice axles and 1/2 axles right off the bat. Burned their inputs into my brain and by golly it stuck. Couple posts about low wind at GWTW got me to thinking about mass and light inputs resulting in revisiting some past reads. Yesterday winds were 0 to 4 but mostly 0 to 2.Spent the day on the PD with a 50' line set. Best day ever with that kite by far. Connected with it when I 1st got it but lost it for a good while. Been coming back and yesterday it arrived. Kites a ballet precision kite and very hard to trick. In low winds inputs need to be very light and spot on or kite floats away on me. Builder said in light winds 60' or 65' lines would probably be best. For now the 50' are fine because I can get under the kite or tension the lines easier. When I get some 50# Shanti to replace the dyneema lines it'll even get even better.Have a 50# by 120' Laser pro set and as you get better you'll find out the quality of lines really does make a difference.Today winds will be a little higher and I'll probably fly my Z. See how what I learned yesterday translates. It's a pretty methodical kite that responds real well to smooth fairly slow inputs in light winds. An advanced flier could probably do 95% of the known tricks on it. Not as fast, responsive or exciting as the Tekken but the kite I've learned the most on. I've flown it in 1 to 2. Not very well but getting better. Took lots of hours to be able to do it. Tricks start coming at 3 to4. Handles nicely up to 15 mph. Rated to 18 but I've not found it very pleasant in the higher range.Very rewarding kite to fly. Wow I guess after this long winded rant I'm saying a Z would be a excellent next kite for you.The low wind knowledge is tough to gain but well worth the effort. Lot of walks of contemplation which is not a bad thing .Even the screaming in frustration is kinda fun .
  9. Gladders

    Hi all from the East of England

    @Breezin, I love this post. Your enthusiasm is infectious. As it happens, I am a yoga person and I think I breath with my movements when flying without really intending to. I know what you mean about the silly grin; it's a ridiculously satisfying way to spend some time, just noodling about in the sky. An SUL you say. Interesting...
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  11. rooster

    TOTL Hawaiian

    Hey, you mentioned that you had re-framed your Hawaiian, would you still have the original frame? If so, I'm really interested in that. Thanks for your time...
  12. Breezin

    Hi all from the East of England

    My, my, hey, hey the search for the elusive sul will soon begin dare I say. Bet you won't have just one. Once you start holding the turtle start pulling the nose towards you. Then your in a type of fade. Do it high in the window to start because when you lose it the kite can power up nose screaming towards the ground. Haven't learned the Spine Shock Splinter trick yet. Close but I can live without it. Once the turtle and fade become fairly easy you'll find yourself trying other things pretty fast. The Limbo should be able to slide stall readily. Simple safe trick that for me is pretty hard to do. When you catch them the smooth glide across the window looks and feels really cool. I start my day and end it doing slides(trying to anyways)no matter the wind or kite. When you get a bigger slower kite you'll look back with appreciation on how the faster kite honed your reflexes.That advice don't forget to breath is sound. Sometimes I still forget to and fall over.Been going on for months now 😩. When I regain my senses I still always have a silly grin on my face though. You'll find that pacing your breathing to your inputs makes things smoother and you connect to the kite easier.Takes a while unless you're some kinda yoga, tai chi etc. type person.Keeps one calmer and more focused too. I don't fly with music yet. As I get better doing combos and figuring out routines music in the ear will become integral in progressing. For now I hum ,sing, whistle and mutter a lot. Mixed in with lots of yelps, whoops and laughter.
  13. makatakam

    Karma 10/20/2018 Jeff Howard

    Very many -- not very active, but here. Karma might up the participation.
  14. Hi @Breezin Loved every word you wrote. We share common enthusiasm can say. I myself is a computer engineer and I pursue my hobby for kites when and wherever possible. My dad Ashok Shah who introduced me to this kiting world. He is been designing and flying designer kites in India since 1993. When I was only three years old. He came in to designing such unusual kites that not seen in India coz of my crazy demand during my birthday i.e. what he says . I demanded for a Micky mouse kite which was not possible during that time time to find in India. He being a lovely father made one for me using plastic and paint. Which also flew. And than his journey began. Coming to your last sentence we have made many different models of 2 line stunt kites. I'm attaching pictures to this comment. This designs are at least a decade old. It's hard to get precision like prism kites with locally available materials in India. Recently we also made a RC kite ;) It was fun to read your views. Hope to fly together soon
  15. Hi; I'm looking to buy good condition Ray fish kite. If any one is up to sell their kite or connect to some one who wants to sell one. Thanks
  16. cjay

    Prism Framed Kite

    I have a Widow NG, and a Prism E2. I really like my E2 using a skybond 85' x 100# lineset, but i have read alot of negative feedback about the E3 for some reason. I think the E3 went to a heavier frame to make it stronger and that changed the feel. The Prism Hypnotist has a Quantum pro sail, with a regular Quantum frame. So the frame is stronger and heavier for beginner crashes. There seems to be some negative opinions about the Hypnotist for some reason, which is wierd since the Quantum, and Quantum pro generally get positive feedback other than the weight of the quantum. I read where someone put a quantum pro frame in a hypnotist sail and was ok with it. Seems like i read that the quantum pro is more of a precise tracking team type of kite. Which sounds like fun.
  17. cjay

    Compiled list of some production kites

    That Premier Aerosport is a cool looking kite.
  18. I am really getting into flying the E2. I tried it with a 85' x 100# skybond line set, and that made a big difference. It is much more responsive and precise now. Compared to the Widow NG, it seems to load up smoother, be more stable at the edge of the wind window, and it is also quieter and doesn't pull as hard. It is almost as precise now. I can't quite put my finger on it, but there is a difference in how they turn. The E2 feels more smooth or something. The E2 is my go to kite now for 9-12 mph wind range. I like it just as well as the Widow NG for just flying around. I still need to try the NG without the weight.
  19. Sounds like the 1.3 size I got is probably better for beginners with less pull than the 1.8.
  20. Exult

    Hi all from the East of England

    Don’t forget the slowing down and stall practice. The ground (when doing belly landings e.g.) tends to be difficult to negotiate with. Would any thought of Neil Young be very far fetched (“My my, hey hey … It is better to burn out than to fade away”… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cawk2cMTnGo 🙂). But it if the destructive crash thing would happen once more @Gladders , well again welcome to the KL community of occasional kite crashers.
  21. Gladders

    Hi all from the East of England

    Well, I've only broken one spar in maybe a dozen flights with the limbo, so maybe I'm not doing too badly. I've got squares fairly well and can land nicely either side of the window. I've got a little bit of a right to left slide, though not so much of a left to right one. When I said the limbo was frustrating, i meant it was fast and a bit unpredictable. The difference in line lengths and bridle will account for some of that, but also it's a relatively small kite. Anyway, next time out I'm looking for a belly landing/take off, and a turtle. Just waiting for the wind.
  22. Gladders

    Karma 10/20/2018 Jeff Howard

    I don't take it personally. No problem. Are there many fliers from Europe here?
  23. makatakam

    Hi all from the East of England

    Crash and burn is usually the first trick in any flyers repertoire. (minus the burn part)
  24. makatakam

    Karma 10/20/2018 Jeff Howard

    However, I don't see why the flyers in Europe couldn't have their own karma. I wonder how @John Barresi feels about that. John? Any thoughts on this?
  25. Breezin

    Hi all from the East of England

    I watched quite a few trick tutorials before I got my first kite. Got 3 tricks down pat the first time I flew . Nose dive left, nose dive center, nose dive right. Learned those before I could even land properly 😎. Dead easy. The next amazing trick I totally nailed was the awesome Lower Spreader Snap Whaaa . Not quite as simple as the others but pretty easy. As I've progressed the Lower Leading Edge Crack and Holy Blankity Blank Hole in the Sail tricks have appeared in a fairly easy manner. Not dead easy but close. The most advantageous trick I've learned is a compilation of these Zen like maneuvers. Fly it, break it, fix it, fly it again.
  26. riffclown

    Karma 10/20/2018 Jeff Howard

    @Gladders Unfortunately, no. It's not personal. It's a logistical issue.. Per the Karma Rules.
  27. Gladders

    Karma 10/20/2018 Jeff Howard

    Is this open to uk fliers? If so, I'm in. If not, I'm not. Either way, I'm all for the pay it forward principle. 👍
  28. Gladders

    Hi all from the East of England

    I really don't need any encouragement on this score. As for frustrating, I've watched some of the videos. It looks dead easy. 😉
  29. Including some Segways in action on the beach.
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