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    • It's full size. Heard last year the run was done. Don't actually know.It is full size and if under 200.00 U.S.I think it would be worth chasing. Prism has a international line and excellent customer service. Calling them might get you some good leads. I've just about pulled the trigger on a couple 3d deals and on more 4ds then I can remember. Don't want this to sound snobby but it kinda is. When 1st reading up on kites I took the advice buy the best you can afford and grow into it. So I did. So should you. So should every newbie. See kinda snobby. Keep in mind though that when I read about or see pics of a 30,40,50 or 60 kite collection I don't think that's excessive at all . Never flown  a 3d or 4d but have seen the 4d on the wall at Into The Wind kite shop. Nice looking kite. To me it seems like a tweener kite. Not really a indoor but close. Above five mph a lot of people think it's fast and twitchy. So not really a kite for the gusties where I live.That is remedied in a lot of fast twitchy kites with lighter inputs and great skills. I still struggle with both so I've bought other kites. Some folks think the 4d is tough. Others not so much. Another reason I think it's a tweener. 4d is awful light and I might have more in parts by now than the initial cost.I tend to go with 80% positive on a kite. I'm to kite poor to risk bad decisions even though there are some 50/50 kites I'd like to try. French Connection for one..I think the Level One Amazing Outdoor would be more up my alley.If I do get a 4d I think I'd like it. Kinda like fast easy to oversteer kites at times. I've read there are a few simple mods you can do on the 4d to stabilize it some. Some people tweak the bridles a bit. Small magnets along TE and wingtips.Nothing permanent and can go back to stock fast.The ease of modding the 4d is why I keep thinking about getting one. Could be a great little lower priced kite with the potential of having quite a few different characteristics I'd like . Just want a Widow Maker Pro sul a lot, lot more. See kinda snobby .
    • Gentler, certainly, but that's not a bad thing. Kites can have high pull and fast speeds that are beyond beginner's skill, that doesn't mean people with intermediate and expert skills will ONLY fly those kites.  Not every kite day needs to be an upper-body workout. A lazy day flying kites means flying gentler kites.  A kite can be beginner-friendly can can also be fun to fly.
    • Can you still get the Zephyr? There's only one prism stockist in the UK that I know of and they don't carry it. Is it full size? The 4D looks interesting.  Small and very light. 
    • Folks say low wind flying skills are the hardest to acquire. For me 0 to 4 and 25 to 30 mph have been the hardest. Both take finesse but the higher wind demands an extremely capable kite, fast reactions and very precise timing.The only 20+ trick kites I know that are consistently being  made with most models are Lam Hoac kites. My Mind Trick vented would be THE kite if I could only keep 1. The wind range is extraordinary. I can fly it in 4 to 5. Starts tricking in 6 and will fly over 30. Got it 2nd hand. Person said they'd only flown it once and I believe it. Heckuva deal. Very pricy new but Lams kite are  worth more than the money spent IMHO. When researching you'll find 2 general trains of thought on low wind kites.Some believe a sul should fly in o winds(Pro Dancer). Others will say that's not sul trick kite territory that's the 0 wind kite realm(Kaiju). Neither differing opinion has given me bad info. Just different. When looking at kites I try to see the builders goal at why their producing that kite for that wind range. Gets most confusing when looking at low wind kites. For low wind I have a Zephyr ul(production), Pro Dancer sul(custom) and a Tekken sul(used custom). All 3 fly very different. While the PD will fly very well from 1 mph up to 10 it has been the most difficult kite for me to learn out of all that I've flown. Well except getting my butt kicked by my Delta Hawk in 20+ and giving up on a Elliot Jet Stream Speed(WILL REVISIT). Recently 2 people flew my PD for a short while. Nice axles and 1/2 axles right off the bat. Burned their inputs into my brain and by golly it stuck. Couple posts about low wind at GWTW got me to thinking about mass and light inputs resulting in revisiting some past reads. Yesterday winds were 0 to 4 but mostly 0 to 2.Spent the day on the PD with a 50' line set. Best day ever with that kite by far. Connected with it when I 1st got it but lost it for a good while. Been coming back and yesterday it arrived. Kites a ballet precision kite and very hard to trick. In low winds inputs need to be very light and spot on or kite floats away on me. Builder said in light winds 60' or 65'  lines would probably be best. For now the 50' are fine because I can get under the kite or tension the lines easier. When I get some 50# Shanti to replace the dyneema lines it'll even get even better.Have a 50# by 120' Laser pro set and as you get better you'll find out the quality of lines really does make a difference.Today winds will be a little higher and I'll probably fly my Z. See how what I learned yesterday translates. It's a pretty methodical kite that responds real well to smooth fairly slow inputs in light winds. An advanced flier could probably do 95% of the known tricks on it. Not as fast, responsive or exciting as the Tekken but the kite I've learned the most on. I've flown it in 1 to 2. Not very well but getting better. Took  lots of hours to be able to do it. Tricks start coming at 3 to4. Handles nicely up to 15 mph. Rated to 18 but I've not found it very pleasant in the higher range.Very rewarding kite to fly. Wow I guess after this long winded rant I'm saying a Z would be a excellent next kite for you.The low wind knowledge is tough to gain but well worth the effort. Lot of walks of contemplation which is not a bad thing .Even the screaming in frustration is kinda fun .
    • @Breezin, I love this post. Your enthusiasm is infectious. As it happens, I am a yoga person and I think I breath with my movements when flying without really intending to. I know what you mean about the silly grin; it's a ridiculously satisfying way to spend some time, just noodling about in the sky. An SUL you say. Interesting...
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