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    There is no joy in a virtual kite festival for those that don't do social media.. I just found out one of my favorite events will be "virtual" I didn't even bother to ask why. Can't even bring myself to care about it. Further, my usual flying fields are off limits to me right now. I understand social distancing and I'm in a higher risk group. But kite Flying outdoors is generally pretty well distanced. I detest Facebook and I'm not willing to give my personal information to them. That is why I'm not there. Same answer pretty much for the other social platforms. So my entire kite season is a bust.. I have 17 kites in my bag that no one outside of Kitelife and a few select friends have really even seen. I've done bridle tests but except for the swirling field and under the trees they've never really flown. Only one other event on my calendar this year and I'll have to work that weekend so no joy there..Probably won't happen anyway, it's outdoors and who wants fresh air any more.
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    The energy behind KiteLive kind of dwindled after the really interactive folks (like yourself) started to fill up on info, I really need good interaction with the participants to cycle my own energy and excitement... I have been toying with the idea of a new podcast series since On The Line basically became the Josh Mitcheson show - power to him, but it would appear the incredible string of interviews and mixed discussions they were doing have all but come to an end.
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    I made that change between the snowflake and the widow. I also just like the triangle there.. Makes it very clean looking.. I used it on one of my earlier sails "Yonder"
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    Great minds think alike? I drew this up last year and never got around to building it. It's slightly different, and has less venting. All strips are 2" wide, and the basic dimensions are like a 1.5. (I adjusted the shape a little.) If you want to build it, go for it.
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    I typically continue the pattern across or vent the center. but since this is a proof of concept I have decide to play with it somewhat..
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    It's because you missed your usual reminder.. @Wayne Dowler How prophetic.... Congrats on the win!!!
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    Wait - I'm picking myself off the floor!! This spoils my perfect record!! I never win!!! Oh dear - the sky might be falling!!
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    We're pleased to yet again announce the next prize being given away to our most appreciated supporters, the Kitelife Subscribers... This month, Skydog Kites and Hang 'em High Fabrics have donated a 1000' spool of 150 lb spectra - good for a few line sets! == If you haven't done so already, You can sign up here.Odds of winning for this prize is currently 1/418, and will be drawn on September 10th, 2020!Our thanks, and the very best to you... Let the drooling begin.
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    I have been reading the beginner kite advice threads and noticed that I was looking for much of the same information about selecting kites that a lot of other beginners were asking about. I thought it would have been nice to have a consolidated page of kite selection advice from experienced flyers available for beginners like me to reference. So I compiled some of the tips and concepts that I have read in posts on various topics here, and some stuff that I have learned myself that I didn't see written, and although incomplete it might be a starting point to build on. Hope nobody minds that I used and paraphrased some of their comments. I tried to keep it focused on the different aspects involved for selecting a kite. This is a work in progress, and I will edit, delete, and change content as necessary. Input is welcome. Dual line framed sport kite selection guide, definitions, and reasoning. This guide might help a person doing research to be aware of the limitations and performance differences between different types and sizes of kites. The first step in figuring out what kite to get is to understand some basic definitions. This will help you to understand the difference between kite flying characteristics, knowing what type of flying you want to do, what wind ranges are, why it matters, and making comparisons between kites. Definitions: Outgrow a kite means: Reaching the limits of what you can do with that kite. When your skills progress beyond the capability or trick potential of the kite. This limitation could be caused by the kite size, materials, design, build, or the conditions it is suited to fly in. Usually it means that a pilots trick skills are beyond what a kite is capable of doing. Flying means: The kite is moving in a forward or nose first direction, making forward moving headway. This is the direction that a kite or airplane naturally travels when it has enough lift to fly. In general, it is directional flying and turning. Stall means: The kite is no longer producing lift sufficient to make forward moving headway. It could be hovering in a controlled stall, or even falling. A stall is defined as the aerodynamic loss of lift that occurs when an airfoil (such as the wing of an airplane or kite sail) exceeds its critical angle of attack. Precision flying means: The kite is flying and moving in a forward direction, but accurate movements such as turns, figures, or patterns are being performed, and the ability for the kite to respond precisely to line control inputs is required. Consistent stable tracking or the ability to maintain a set course of flight is needed. Stunt flying means: Performing other movements, or combinations of movements, primarily with the kite in a stalled or non-flying state. Stunt trick ability is generally based on a kites potential to be controlled in a stall. This can also be referred to as Freestyle stunts. Kite lines or line sets: The set of two lines that connect between you and the kite and allow you to control the kite. They transmit your hand movements into kite movement. Usually the lines attach to the kite, and then run and connect to a set of wrist straps made of fabric loops that you hold on to. Lines are usually made of low stretch spectra, or dyneema for fast response and less wind drag on the lines. Line quality and length effects a kites responsiveness. Line inputs: Your hand movements applied to the kite lines. Line Pull: How much pull or tension a kite causes on the kite lines in a given wind. Generally higher wind means stronger line pull. Generally smaller kites apply less pull to the lines in a given wind. Kite sail design also effects pull, a sail with more surface area generally pulls harder on the lines. A kite generally flys faster in higher wind, and a smaller kite can be very fast. Figuring out what wind speed is safe to fly in or allow someone to fly in is one of the main relevant factors for pull and is an important safety consideration for smaller, lighter, or weaker people etc. Wind ranges for types of kites (generally): ( 0 mph = indoor kites ). ( 1-3 mph outdoor kites = Super ultra light ). ( 3-5 mph = ultra light or light). ( 5-12 mph = standard ), over 15 mph = high wind or vented kite. *Be aware that every kite will have a wind range that they will perform the best in. Kites will often have the wind ranges misrepresented, which can cause incorrect expectations. *(With some exceptions), most mass produced kites wont be able to fly easily in under 5 mph of wind, and most people will usually stop flying at 15 mph or even less, unless the kite has certain features that makes it flyable at higher wind speeds, such as; smaller kite size, sail venting, stronger lines, and padded straps. Kite selection; When trying to figure out what kite to get, decide what type of flying you want to do, and in what wind range. Whether you want to just fly around in a forward direction, or whether you want to do precision flying, or maybe step up to performing freestyle tricks also called stunts. If all you want to do is get out and fly around in a forward direction, and carve some turns in the sky once in a while, and don't want to spend much on a kite, getting a larger and more expensive kite over 5' in size is not really necessary. For perspective; * A kite that is $100 dollars and below is not considered to be much money for a kite. These kites are usually smaller than 6', and are generally considered to be cheaper entry level mass produced kites. * If you are on a budget, selecting a cheap $100 or below kite in this smaller size range (6' and under) may be the only option you have and will at least get you flying. However kites in the $100 or below price range are not usually as stall or stunt capable, and if you are trying to learn tricks this could limit your progress, and as your skills surpass the kites potential for tricks you would "outgrow" the kite, in which case you would have to buy another kite that is capable of doing tricks. A common first kite choice for a beginner on a budget, usually means buying one, entry level, mass produced kite in the 5' to 6' size range that can take a beating. The reasoning is that these are good for learning forward directional flying and basic kite control. This will get you through the frequent crashing phase where kites can get damaged, and can give you an idea of how much interest you have in flying before investing much money. It can also be good to keep one around for other beginners or kids to learn on. * Be aware that everything happens faster with these smaller kites. They can move so fast it can be hard to tell which way they are going and how they responded to line inputs, and can be harder to see and keep track of and correct in time to prevent a crash. This can be fustrating to a beginner. * Most of these kites in the smaller 5'-6' size range are built for beginners, and are usually heavy for their size, because they are built stronger to handle more of a beating before they break. They might need at least 5 mph of wind or more to get up and be stable when turning because they have a smaller sail size, and because they are heavy for their weight. The extra weight usually comes from the type of rods that are used in these kites. It is common for experienced kite fliers on forums to recommend that a beginner buy a more expensive large 7' or 8' sized kite, or even a boutique kite as a first kite. Part of the reason is that most of the experienced fliers are into freestyle stunt flying, and are usually more particular about kites. But also because a kite in the 7' - 8' kite size range will take you farther, and can be easier to fly for a beginner because they move and turn slower allowing for more reaction time. They are also easier to see and follow because of their size and slower speed, which means it should be easier to see how the kite responds to your line inputs, potentially making it easier to avoid crashes, and be faster to learn on. * A nicer or better quality kite in this context usually means a larger kite in the 7'-8' size range, with possibly better sail fabric material, better rod and line set quality, and overall better design and build quality, with more freestyle stunt capability. These are usually over $100, and often $150 to $200 for a factory production kite. These factory kites might be considered cheap in both build quality and price compared to a $400 dollar custom made boutique kite. * If you can handle the pull and can afford a 7' - 8' sized kite then get one of those. There are also some kites in this size range that are built tough for beginners and are heavier than the more advanced kites of the same size. They usually cost more than the smaller sized beginner kites, but not as much as a more advanced kite of the same size. I have found that it is helpful to have a kite that is easy to see and tell which direction it is going. Certain colors and color patterns are easier for me to see and track against a clear sky, or in gray conditions. I can usually see bright colors like yellow, orange, or red the best because of the contrast. Also consider that kite manufacturers promotional flying videos can be misleading because they usually have a world-class pilot flying in the video, leading consumers to believe that it will fly like that for them, too. How long it will take to achieve a certain level of skill varies depending on what you want to do, but it can be substantial. For stunt flying; select a full-sized kite with a wingspan of at least 7’ wing tip to wing tip. The 7’ foot and larger kites will move a little slower and feel more controllable & predictable, and give you more time to react and learn. Larger kites can generally require lower wind to fly due to the larger sail size. They are usually easier control and maneuver during a stall, which is where freestyle tricks are normally performed. For non stunt flying; selecting a kite of 6' foot (72”) or less, will be faster flying than the larger kites, and will require a little more wind to get flying due to the smaller sail size, and require less input on the lines, and can be more difficult or even impossible to properly stall and do tricks. They may also be able to fly in higher winds due to the smaller sail size. They will be twitchier (which means it will turn very quickly, with a high probability of over steer). As for it needing higher winds - that depends on the weight of the kite, but as a general rule, smaller wingspan kites (under 70") usually do need a little more wind than say an 80" - 100" wingspan kites, and will also fly through the sky a bit faster as well. For Precision flying: If precision flying is the main goal, do not assume that a dedicated stunt kite will be the best choice as it may or may not have high precision. Although most quality modern kites in the 7-8' size range usually have at least decent precision and tracking. Make sure to do research first because there are a number of kites that are known to perform better for this. Which ever kite you get, be sure to check the line lengths and make sure they are the same. Sometimes they come from the factory uneven. This can have a negative effect on the way it handles. A few thoughts on kites and wind ranges. Manufacturers advertised wind speed ratings are not always accurate (usually not). It may not be possible for everyone to fly a kite at the lowest or highest wind speed rating. In general, kites perform best within specific wind ranges. You may not be able to tell what the real wind range is from the kite specs, and will either need to try the kite or read a review to know for sure what wind range it works the best in. It is common for people to have different kites for different wind speed conditions. One kite for indoors, one kite for little to no wind, one kite for light wind, one kite for medium wind, and a vented or smaller kite for stronger wind conditions. It is common for people to stop flying a standard kite in the 7' size range when the wind gets up to 15 mph, because things start breaking, and the pull can get dangerous.
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    Would also be nice to line up some more Direct Line chats. Overall, The Group Chat feature doesn't get nearly as much traffic as it used to..
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    Tell me about it, I'm usually traveling to 10-15 events a year, the vast majority of my social circle is in the kiting world so this current situation has me feeling quite disconnected (some of the reason for my partial absence from the forum as of late)... Still figuring out how to get my proper fix and input of energy / ideas in this new world.
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    I once successfully did 36 roll ups on a Deep Space, with a successful unroll.
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    Hi Edmond, thank you for the Link. I know that one .. im looking for old Original TOTL models .. Thanks - Max
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    You get what you pay for. Wind meters can be nice if you're looking for numbers, or want to make a record of what your day was like. Some high-end meters have data logging, you can set them up on a post and they'll measure speed and direction through the day. There are also small wind meters you can attach to headset jacks on smartphones, which turn the wind speed into a microphone noise the phone can interpret. As for wind socks, those vary as well. There are calibrated wind socks, the red/orange ones you see at airfields are fully extended at 15 knots / 17 mph. If you go that route or happen to have an airfield nearby, most kites fly in a 5-15 knot range, which on those windsocks mean the first 2 of 5 segments are extended, up through the entire windsock is extended. When the whole things stands out straight you'll need high wind kites. When they bend just below horizontal, 5 degrees is 10 knots / 12 mph, which is a usual good experience. Most people don't need wind meters, just fly what feels good. If the kite won't stay up, swap for a kite designed for lighter conditions. If a kite starts pulling hard, deforming, or showing other signs of stress, swap for a kite designed for heavier conditions. They can be informative to help you learn, but that's about it.
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    It's not easily possible to put together tutorials like that, as people want different things. Everyone comes from different backgrounds, and everyone learns differently. There is no "Start Here To Learn Everything You Need" video. Instead you will need to watch many videos showing many topics. For dual line, see the very first sticky topic under dual line forum: Stunt Kite Video Tutorials (dual line). For quad line, see the forum section: Video Tutorials The "sample tutorials" has 34 tutorials ranging from setup and assembly through intermediate level skills. Down below under "full index of tutorials" has links to many more, some require paid access to the site. You supervise others first by learning how to fly yourself, then teaching others what you've already learned. Or you start by learning together from the basics. Videos like those linked to above give guidance, but there is no alternative for time on the lines.
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    ^Thanks he is my nephew and I certainly want him to want more but not get cocky like someone who gets an early win at poker tthen thinks he can handle it with the bad boys or 1 did a 2 foot surf now I can join the 20 year olds on the 10 footer :-)... Step by step learn to handle step 1 be fore 2 and 2 before 3 not 1 easy lets try 10 ... 🙂
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    The angles of the strips on this particular kite made it very hard to control puckers and mis-alignments. I think I got everything but there are a few spots with machine holes where I had undo some of the sewing and do it right.
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    Hello @thegoatlark, Welcome to KiteLife®! Although this is an automated message, it is written with heart - I love kites deeply, and I believe the KiteLife community represents this passion with a very friendly and helpful environment for everyone. Please feel free to browse around and get to know the others. If you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask. Need to tweak settings? Edit your profile here - View Member Edit your settings - http://kitelife.com/forum/settings/ Other than that, here are a few handy links that you might have a use for... Member Chat Member Map KL Shop And while it's never an obligation, we always love hearing about our new members if you'd like to share some of your kite stories, videos, and/or background... Tell us a little about YOUR kite life!
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    I very much like your color scheme and may steal that.. That strip arrangement looks similar to the first perspective prototype layout I used for the Window and snowflake meshes, Where the vanish point is in the center and the other strips are parallel. I do like the performance of that particular design. It has a very good control but also eats gusts very well. The strips in both of these are just over 1" wide.. I do love playing with the angles though..
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    Hello all, name is Justin. great to be around other fliers even if it is just virtual. Ive been flying for about 20 years but not much for the past 10, (family of 4 kids take most my time, lol). I turned one of my hobbies into a carear so kites took the back seat to blowing glass. Still have a great love for taming the wind though. Not much of a kite bag, just some prisms. The E3, 3D, and just got a neutrino a week ago. Also have a premier nighthawk. Thanks for this forum and community! Justin
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    OK just need the proper wind to fly it in.. Bridle check was successful,,
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    I still may doing something with the center but the sail itself is done except for Bridle which will be done tomorrow.
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    Told you the sky was falling .......TIMBER!!!!
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    And just in time for your birthday too? This is getting vewy, vewy scawy. Happy Birthday, Wayne.
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    dugard uses his initials, Shook a compass rose, Bazzer and Rev each use a screen printing process w/logos, you'll come up with something equally unique for your own "brand"
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    Leading Edge is attached and the Center panel is placed in. I may put a design in the center but haven't really decided yet. Edge binding, and remaining trim will be blue. Haven't decided on wear strip color yet. They will be either White or Blue.
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    Big welcome... ❤️ 1625 @daveman 1626 @Chad 1627 @wave0nl 1628 @Martijn 1629 @Badger6lr 1630 @JHoule 1631 @skipperbud 1632 @edub Current subscriber count, 418.
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    I think I developed a love for kites a long time ago. I'm 72 now, so who really knows. My Dad would take my brother and I out to a hill in Bethlehem, PA and bring along a kite or two. They were usually the typical diamond or box kites, make by Hi-Flier. But we always got it up in the air, and he even let us hold the string after a while. We'd rip a hole in a piece of newspaper and send a message up to the kite. It was always simple, but always fun. That started me on a lifelong love of kite-flying. Now, if you all are the type that buy or make very complex kites, spending a lot of money, I'm not that guy. I do have many kites and enjoy flying them all, especially now that I have grandkids. I'm trying to keep this love going. My four sons all like kites, and remember our times at the Jersey shore (not the TV show) flying many kinds of kites. One year, in the 60s, I was spending a few days at the shore with my (future) wife's family. We were in JrHS. One day, it was rainy. There weren't many things to do and my wife's brother was along. He was five years younger than me. So, I said, "Let's make a kite and fly it tomorrow when it's sunny." He agreed. Now, to be sure, I had never made a kite from scratch, I only had the store-bought Hi-Fliers. So, I figured out what we'd likely need and we gathered the materials. Newspaper, string, glue (maybe tape), and some sticks. I roughly calculated the dimensions of a diamond kite and cut the sticks down to the approx measurement. I cut notches in the end and ran a string around the perimeter. I laid this on top of the newspaper, and cut out the diamond, leaving room for the flap to be glued around the string. (This was before trash bags, and other simple things that might have made it easier.) We cut out the diamond, glued the flaps around the string, tied a cross string at the joint of the sticks and added a bow string. I found an old sheet, and we tore up some material for a tail. The next day, we took it to the beach and flew it. Seeing it take off was one of my finest moments. Another time, again at the shore, I brought along my Tetra Kite. You probably know what this is... if not, google it. My first Tetra Kite was the typical orange and red plastic sails. It made a fine looking tetrahedron, when assembled. I also had one of all silver mylar. It was also fun to see in the air. So, I went down to the beach (this is many years later, I was married to the girls in the first story and we had two sons by then). We flew the orange/red Tetra, and it was waaaaay out there. It was a good evening for flying, the wind was off-shore, so the kite was over the water. I had a lot of string out... and the wind picked up. You can probably guess what happened next... the string broke, maybe a 1/4 of the way from me to the kite, closer to me. The only way I figure what happened next was that enough string came into contact with the ocean water that it created sufficient drag so that the kite stayed aloft. For. A. Long. Time. The kite took on a course of its own, moving South parallel to the beach. We were at the North end of the island. I got the boys into the car and we drove South, trying to stay in view of the kite. It was difficult to do. We finally lost sight of it when we go to about 24th St or so. The kite had drifted much further out to sea and was disappearing from view. I like to think it's still up there today. Over the years, I've made many homemade kites. I love having kids "help" me... they have such unconventional ideas, and we try them all. How else would they learn? Well, that's it for now. I hope I'll fit in. I do have a post in the Single String section... looking for info on an old kite I have. It's here - Please visit and answer if you know anything about the kite, or if my geometrical calculations seem correct. It's one of those subject we all said, "Why do I have to learn this, I'm never going to use it." Have fun, all, and never lose your childhood zeal or imagination. Jim Author: The Grandpa Book https://www.amazon.com/Grandpa-Book-Are-you-ready/dp/1502579049 Owner: www.littlethinkeradventures.com Kids Adventure Stories.
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    The Kite package finally arrived here in Ontario, after a voyage of in excess of three weeks from the Pacific Northwest of the US, down to San Francisco international distribution for USPS, up to Vancouver, British Columbia and across the continent to the Toronto Ontario area. In these Covid times the mails, while perhaps a little slower, do once again, come through. Hooray for USPS and Canada Post. I was excited to try the kite but had to wait a couple of days for decent conditions and a window of opportunity. Finally we had a day this past week where winds were 15 to 25 kph and I grabbed the kite along with a couple of other similar kites to give it a go. The only spare set of quad lines I had to hand for the new kite was 100 feet of 150# that I use in upper wind for my revolution style kites - and I started with those. The Symphony 2.2.4 flew fine on those lines, although they are perhaps a little longer than I might prefer. I am not sure that those lines would be good for extended use in bigger winds as … man… does that kite pull in the middle of a wind window. I was leaning back big time! Will need to tweak the brake line length if continue with those lines, probably with another knot or two in the leader at the kite end. I also had out a smaller Flexifoil Sting, and that is a really sweet little kite which has been tuned properly with its shorter pre-configured lines. I will likely come up with a set of dedicated lines for the Symphony; something in the range of 80 to 90 feet...? Perhaps a little research to determine what a proper line strength might be. Some of my other power kites have heavier flying lines than the brake lines and I am thinking something like 200 pounds over 150. (Thoughts welcome on that.) I have been flying mainly in lower winds of late out of preference, and on this outing I was getting some adrenaline flowing with the pull in the bigger wind. That was a lot of fun! Thank you very much J B for this prize. I was particularly pleased to also have received a set of quad leader lines which I look forward to adding to a spare set of handles that I wanna get going for one of my Freilien quads. Hats off also to riffclown for coming up with the conversion process from two to four lines on the Symphony. Outstanding!
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    Flexifoil Bullet is a great kite. Bummer that they are no longer made. Loved my 2.5 and 4.5 sizes.
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    Hi Mainly here at first to get a little advice, I used to have a flexifoil 3.5 bullet kits I think, looking to get nephew into the sport
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    Personally I think it's a great topic. Would love to see a repository of 3D Printed connector patterns.
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    Welcome to the forum. Anything you want to know about kites, someone on this forum can answer. It's good to have you on board.
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    Hey there thanks for this space I'm going to be flying solo and can use the help. I used to fly with my favorite uncle but he passed 2 months ago. I kept his Nexus Prism that we flew together ☺️. I look forward to learning a lot from everyone.
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    Deep Space now ordered, just got to wait for delivery.😊
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    Good work. The brake lines are attaching to the trailing edge only. Almost all the force is on the original bridles. Applying the brakes will partially deflate the airfoil by design.. Unless you are flying it in really strong winds, it shouldn't be too much of a concern.
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    Thank you for the words of encouragement. I feel like I'm on a kite-less island surrounded by Kites I can't fly.
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    Cheer up man, we're all bummed that all the festivals are cancelled. I feel the same. Most of the places where I fly locally are locked up. I try to make the most of it flying at the sports complexes when theyre not busy, but they've started soccer and softball back up so it's kinda a bust now. I'm glad I got to go to the South Padre Island Festival before all the shutdowns. I met up with my parents "that are winter Texans" for SPI and introduced them to Team kitelife. I'm glad they got to see how great the kite community is and why this is a thing we all love. I took the trip for granted at the time, but now I'm glad I got the chance to introduce more people to kites. In this time of isolation, I enjoy the virtual festivals and the positively they convey. I think many people need to connect. All of your builds and posts are an inspiration and positive motivation for all of the people on this forum. You've created your own virtual festival in the kite making thread. Your the man! A little video from last weekend , flying under my super sled. 106571100_743926473078517_1050382748096352119_n (1).mp4
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    Here's a link to Carl Robertshaw's video called Flying Techniques. Covers a lot of ground and lots of helpful tips in all aspects of kiting. The last hour or so there are some really nice explainations of what the kite is doing during tricks. It's interesting to see that perspective and compare to videos showing hand movements. Long video, but well worth watching! 👍
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    Welcome to the forum.
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    Welcome! Love the screen name 😉
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    Decided to revisit my original perspective design with a bit of black and Flo Green. LE is also Flo Green 72". Edge binding will be black. Sail is sewn and LE is ready. Should finish this kite up tomorrow.
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    Check on some fishing rod building websites. https://www.mudhole.com/supplies-rod-building
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    I was successful in my search! Kites Unlimited (Atlantic Beach, NC) had a few. I bought what I needed plus a spare, but there was still a complete frame, a center leading edge, and a few more unferruled rods left over. There was even a full sail B-series and a Fulcrum in their bargain bin 😳.
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    Welcome to the forum.
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    Welcome to the forum.
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    Are you looking for a "true" fighter or an outdoor glider/fighter mix? Horvath's Urban Ninja serves that purpose well. I believe there are plans out there for it, he published them as open plans. It's a single line kite that can't be set up and forgotten - you must fly it all the time! I like to use it when there's just a hint of wind, but not enough to fly my quads. Satisfies the quad flier in me, I get to be active with the kite.
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