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We're pleased to yet again announce the next prize being given away to our most appreciated supporters, the Kitelife Subscribers... For roughly 10 cents per day they play a major role in keeping KL growing in every way. This time around we're offering an extremely unique item, and one you're not likely to see in the drawings again: KŪBE dual / quad line dogstake from Kite Forge, a $325 value! == Full info - https://kiteforge.com/product/kube This package includes the KŪBE unit, screw mount, flight tag, guy lines, velvet bag and sticker, ready to fly! NOTE: This is exactly the same dogstake that I fly myself - We should be able to ship from existing inventory when a winner is drawn, worst case should be 3-4 weeks for restock. You can sign up here. Odds of winning for this prize is currently 1/398, and will be drawn on December 1st, 2023! Our thanks, and the very best to you... Let the drooling begin!

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We're pleased to yet again announce the next prize being given away to our most appreciated supporters, the Kitelife Subscribers... For roughly 10 cents per day they play a major role in keeping KL growing in every way. Gaze ST from Kite Forge (design by Air-Rex / Flying Wings), $295 value, in PURPLE! The Gaze is an amazing blend of team-level precision and slack line ability in one full size sport kite, designed by Naoki Tamura, world champion Team Air-Rex from Japan and Flying Wings. == == Full info - https://kiteforge.com/gaze More videos - https://kiteforge.com/videos/ This package includes a complete Gaze ST and kite sleeve! NOTE: This is exactly the same Gaze setup that I fly myself - no special mods needed, it's already a boss right out of the bag... We should be able to ship from existing inventory when a winner is drawn, worst case will be 2-4 weeks for restock. You can sign up here. Odds of winning for this prize is currently 1/398, and will be drawn on June 1st, 2023! Our thanks, and the very best to you... Let the drooling begin!

Ok, we have a winner! This time the randomizer has gone a bit deeper into the older numbers and given us subscriber #940, a huge congrats to @XD1 (Scott and Linzy) - you're taking home a brand new KŪBE! Thanks so much to everyone for your ongoing support and patience, stay tuned for a new prize soon.

Stirring the pot... 😈

I try to make all the prizes useful, relevant, or interesting - all about the experience. 🙏🏻

Wow, made it on the right day! Drum roll... This month's winner is subscriber #1297, congrats to @rykerev! Deepest thanks to all our supporters, always - you are the backbone of this website. 🙏 Stay tuned for news on our next prize!

We're pleased to yet again announce the next prize being given away to our most appreciated supporters, the Kitelife Subscribers... For roughly 10 cents per day they play a major role in keeping KL growing in every way. LaserPro Gold 75 ft x 90# quad line set from Kite Forge, $90 value! == Full info - https://kiteforge.com/product/laserpro-gold-quad/ This package includes a ready to fly line set on an official LaserPro winder! NOTE: This is exactly the same line set that I fly myself - it's ready to fly right out of the bag... We should be able to ship from existing inventory when a winner is drawn, worst case should be 1-2 weeks for restock. You can sign up here. Odds of winning for this prize is currently 1/408, and will be drawn on August 1st, 2023! Our thanks, and the very best to you... Let the drooling begin!

Right you are, apologies - work, summer, life, family, but I'm back on it. With no fanfare, straight to our lucky winner in this round... Subscriber #1572, a brand new set of LPG quad lines goes to @Brandon! Thanks so much to all for your ongoing patience and support, stay tuned for another prize very soon. 🙏

We're pleased to yet again announce the next prize being given away to our most appreciated supporters, the Kitelife Subscribers... For roughly 10 cents per day they play a major role in keeping KL growing in every way. LaserPro Gold 60 ft x 50# quad line set from Kite Forge, $80 value! == Full info - https://kiteforge.com/product/laserpro-gold-quad/ This package includes a ready to fly line set on an official LaserPro winder! NOTE: This is exactly the same line set that I fly myself - it's ready to fly right out of the bag... We should be able to ship from existing inventory when a winner is drawn, worst case should be 1-2 weeks for restock. You can sign up here. Odds of winning for this prize is currently 1/398, and will be drawn on April 10th, 2024! Our thanks, and the very best to you... Let the drooling begin!

Alright, we've got a winner... Congratulations to subscriber #1553, @KiteKouple is taking home a brand new line set! Thanks all, as always - I'll try and get a new prize up ASAP. Its a madly busy time of year for me at the moment between work, family, team practice (developing a brand new routine) and our upcoming trip to the Cervia Kite Festival - your patience is deeply appreciated!

I'll gladly take them. Can you give them to me in Cervia

We're pleased to yet again announce the next prize being given away to our most appreciated supporters, the Kitelife Subscribers... For roughly 10 cents per day they play a major role in keeping KL growing in every way. LaserPro Gold 60 ft x 90# quad line set from Kite Forge, $80 value! == Full info - https://kiteforge.com/product/laserpro-gold-quad/ This package includes a ready to fly line set on an official LaserPro winder! NOTE: This is exactly the same line set that I fly myself - it's ready to fly right out of the bag... We should be able to ship from existing inventory when a winner is drawn, worst case should be 1-2 weeks for restock. You can sign up here. Odds of winning for this prize is currently 1/398, and will be drawn on February 5th, 2024! Our thanks, and the very best to you... Let the drooling begin!

Alrighty, here goes... Our lucky winner this time around is #1472, @Dave Schutsky! Congrats sir, and thanks to all for your ongoing support. ❤️ Stay tuned for our next prize, soon!

Hi people, Fran Burstall from England here. I am a long-time dual-line flyer and have competed in Team, Pairs and Indi for more than 20 years. I am now embarking on the new adventure of learning to fly revs. John B's tutorials will help here.

Remember how the really special drawings brought out the best of member trash talk..?!! THIS ONE is definitely headed south for the beaches of Oz! Warm easterlies in the morning. Cool westerlies in the evening. Hello RNG. You still kicking?

We're pleased to yet again announce the next prize being given away to our most appreciated supporters, the Kitelife Subscribers... For roughly 10 cents per day they play a major role in keeping KL growing in every way. LaserPro Gold 60 ft x 90# quad line set from Kite Forge, $80 value! == Full info - https://kiteforge.com/product/laserpro-gold-quad/ This package includes a ready to fly line set on an official LaserPro winder! NOTE: This is exactly the same line set that I fly myself - it's ready to fly right out of the bag... We should be able to ship from existing inventory when a winner is drawn, worst case should be 1-2 weeks for restock. You can sign up here. Odds of winning for this prize is currently 1/408, and will be drawn on October 10th, 2023! Our thanks, and the very best to you... Let the drooling begin!

Oh, and this bit of sorcery... 😎

Just thought I would share a pic of the winder I made for my lines, just keeps separated.

Another video is just coming in: Watty also explains very nicely how he makes his lines management.

That's how I do it. It works 99% of the time. With the remaining 1% I am badly swearing :-)

I'm not talented enough to fly and take a picture at the same time with dual lines, so, you folks will have to just believe me when I say I had a great time flying this wonderful kite! https://photos.app.goo.gl/SDYtD9N1vq2kc94Y8

Okay, here's that beautiful drum roll... 🥁 The winner of a brand new Gaze, subscriber #1560 - this bad boy is going home with @Jer! Every day flying is the best day ever, indeed. Congrats Jeremy, and thanks to all for your ongoing support. 🙏 Stay tuned for a new prize to be announced early next week!

It's my birthday (#48) but I am reconciling our member list as we speak, will draw a winner shortly, then spend the rest of the day celebrating. ❤️

This is my Gaze ST in orange. It's waiting for wind between the asparagus fields...

If you actually come to Leipzig, I will bring my Gaze. Maybe there will be a chance to fly it outside somewhere. But you are welcome to try it in the hall

Hi Michael, In Cervia I met you and other kite fliers from the Drachenforum, it has been a great pleasure! During the festival I spent most of time in the STACK area, so when I met John the last day the Gaze was already packed to go back to the United States. Thank you !

I had the opportunity to fly the Gaze Standard in Cervia. Nice kite - great price!

We'll fly together. Enjoy your vacation!

Congratulations! You will have a lot of fun!

Congrats Scott and Linzy, it is a wonderful prize enjoy it. 👍

Rob, I ended up buying a Premier telescoping rod that works great. The van has a ladder on the rear door to access the roof so I attach the pole to the ladder, between the ladder and the door. It's really stable. At 16', I need some longer wind socks as the 5' ones look tiny way up there!!! Jay

https://www.facebook.com/groups/djinnkite/permalink/1616926695368297/ No wrong way long as you're happy, but check that out. 🤷

Not drawn yet? The tension is rising and I could use a line set like this.😉

Any idea how you can purchase a Djinn in the UK? Neither Kite forge or the Wind-R site have a UK shipping option.

Hey John, Long time..................but Happy B-day, my old friend....reef

congratulations enjoy

Happy Birthday my friend!

That dragon kite is really easy to build and fly. It's got a spar across the horizontal attached to a pocket on the ends. Easy , just cut out a similar shape and attach the rod. Micro carbon or bamboo or whatever you can think of. Wood dowel,coat hanger wire, etc. The shape can be concave or convex. I'm sure you know from Dreaded Geometry. Better than Calculas based Statistics. Beat of a course. If it doesn't fly concave switch it backwards. No real rules in kite making and designing, except HAVE FUN! 🤗

Hi Tullo! It was nice to see you the days in Cervia :-) I had the opportunity to fly the gaze. I liked it very much. John said that at a Vented maybe will come.

I love inverted flight.. All of the kites I make now have a bit of a bias for inverted flight..

Good stuff!!! The best “trick/maneuver” I learned many moons ago was to be able to crash gently..... Done me well!! bt

Still getting use to it. It definitely acts differently than the Rev 1.5. So far I really like the smooth leading edge. The kite is definitely quicker. I think it’s made me better. I struggled inverted slides with the Rev. This Djinn definitely flies better inverted. In any case I can slide inverted with my Rev now as well. I’ve learned the more confident I get the harder my crashes are!😂😬

I have a few quads. A few "original" Revolution, some "replicas" (in improved version), a few Detox and three Djinn. The Djinn are by far the most flown quads. I like the colour design/layout, the quality of the craftsmanship, the innovative details and the flying characteristics. Another advantage is the always good helpfulness and support from @John Barresi. In the quad (!) sector, in my opinion, only Los Hermanos (-> Detox) are as great. Disadvantages? Hmmm... I don't know any! Difference to other quads? I mainly fly Djinn and Detox. Djinn on short lines. Detox on long lines. But that's more subjective and my choice is based on terrain and mood.

Thanks for the reply detailing your experience. I still think its worth doing as it opens up the choice beyond a genuine rev. Only problem then is too much choice🙂

Building a stunt kite seemed intimidating to me but went all in expecting very little. First no pattern just scetch an outline on cardboard and cut away. Forget about all the talk about bias of fabric aligning properly Heard expert about importance of fsdric edge align ment and not very much impact on performance. Grab some spars good fabric and like me improvise on connectors and fittings. Tubing plastic clothes changers s.o. etc. My first looked unprofessional but flew way better than I could have imagined It is fun and rewarding plus save a lot of money. Try it not much to loose. Sew away. Michael marmarasmichael@gmail.com

Absolutely try! Don’t know If the Nexus comes with a Manual or Field Card, if so check it out if haven’t already. But the general rule for duallies: pull in the nose in lighter winds. Simple as that. Some kites have adjustment knots at the top of the bridle. Some Prisms have you do it in a range between two knots on the bridle; believe sometimes they are even labeled (such as on my Prism Quantum anyways). But the principles are the same -- shortening the line that goes to the nose (or lengthening its counterpart). If feasible on this kite you could even wrap the upper bridle leg once round the upper spreader on both sides. Kinda crude, but a quick way to experiment and see what it does. May be overkill. A very brief search did not turn up a kite specific manual, but Prism’s generic “Two Line Flight Manual” is a good read on this under the tuning section: https://prismkites.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Dual-Line-Manual.pdf There are also other effects of tweaking the bridle including responsiveness and whatnot. Get to know thy bridle. It is a lifetime journey 😉 I expect others will chime in with more thoughts. .

After several Chat discussions with other Kite Life members I was encouraged to share the following information: Carbon Tube Deflection and Weight Comparisons I have created my own standard method for measuring stiffness-to-weight ratios for carbon tubing commonly used for sport kite construction for my own personal use as a kite builder and hopefully this information will be helpful to others who would like to build or mod their own frames. In this report you will see how my testing of a group of commercially available tubes compare against this standard. Any frame material can potentially be compared using this test. Test Definition: A deflection test has been defined to measure the standard deflection of a 62“ length of carbon tubing suspended with a fulcrum at it’s center-point, 31”. This length was chosen for convenience since it represents the length of two standard revolution 1.5/B-Pro spars. A 1 pound weight is suspended against a 62” length of tubing. A fulcrum is placed at the center of the length to suspend the tube vertically; a loose or permanent ferrule is used to connect multiple sections of tubing and is placed in the center for the measurement to create the 62” length. The 1 pound weight is suspended with 37” of line on each end of the 62” length forming a triangle with 37” sides. A second line is then attached to each end of the 62” length of the tube being measured to create a parallel line beneath the bow that is created by the weight. The distance from the center of the tube to this line is then measured. The weight of the tubing is calculated without ferrules. This defines the nominal weight of the tube in g/in. SU1: Stiffness units (version 1 is where the 1 comes from in SU1) are defined by the amount of deflection at the centerline of the 62” bow and are in units of inches. W: is the weight of the tubing sample used in g/in. This is a measurement of the tube without a ferrule. These results are the average of several tubes. SU1/W: represents a stiffness-to-weight ratio and can be used to compare other tube materials. This becomes the standard for comparison in my chart and the chart is sorted from the highest value to the lowest value. A high value means that the tube will weigh less but be less stiff (more deflection). A low value means that a tube will perhaps weigh more but be more stiff (not deflect as easily). For frame weight comparisons, nominal weights were calculated for a Rev 1.5/B-pro frame and a Rev B-2 frame. Nominal weight values do not include the weight of ferrules or adhesives. Note: m2 stands for measurement of a second group of tubes. in case the picture can't be enlarged, here is the chart again in text format: Rod SU1 W g/in SU1/W Rev 1.5 Nom. Frame wt g Rev B2 Nom. Frame wt g Sky Shark P90 4.5000 0.3226 13.9492 50.0030 39.5185 Sky Shark P1X m2 3.7500 0.4021 9.3260 62.3255 49.2573 Sky Shark P1X 3.7500 0.4154 9.0274 64.3870 50.8865 Race Rods 31" silver 3.7500 0.4194 8.9413 65.0070 51.3765 Rev Race Rod silver B-2 3.7500 0.4286 8.7494 66.4330 52.5035 Sky Shark P1X m3 3.6250 0.4021 9.0152 62.3255 49.2573 Rev 2 Wrap silver 3.4375 0.4597 7.4777 71.2535 56.3133 Sky Shark P2X 3.1250 0.4516 6.9198 69.9980 55.3210 Sky Shark P2X m2 3.1250 0.4740 6.5928 73.4700 58.0650 Sky Shark P200 3.0000 0.4677 6.4144 72.4935 57.2933 Sky Shark P3X 2.8750 0.5323 5.4011 82.5065 65.2068 Sky Shark P3X m2 2.7500 0.5265 5.2232 81.6075 64.4963 Rev 3 Wrap silver 2.5000 0.5000 5.0000 77.5000 61.2500 Sky Shark P400 2.5000 0.7282 3.4331 112.8710 89.2045 Rev 3 Wrap w/ Green Stripes 2.3125 0.4194 5.5138 65.0070 51.3765 MODERATOR UPDATE:

Anyway this is one of my leading edges.

As far as the tangles in the lines... I just roll my lines out, hook them to the kite & fly a little. If there seem to be any wraps, I just try to fly them out, or as close as possible. Sometimes the handles have individual twists... I just land and spin the affected handle. To me, it's not worth the time on the ground trying to figure how to get the lines perfectly straight & untangled. I follow the Line Management tutorial pretty closely, with the exception of the straight wrap vs. the Figure 8 wrap.