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  1. I finally got a chance to watch your video all the way through. Looked like a nice flying session, and a great location. I think the high point of what I saw was around the 7 minute mark, you flew straight down and did a snap stall to the left, then again to the right. That looked really good. That move can easily be made into an impressive landing, or while the kite is stalled, it's a perfect spot for an axel. The move at the end looked like a turtle, I couldn't see the kite, but your input looked like the input for a turtle. That was my first trick... fly up while pulling on both lines, and right near the top, throw slack at both lines. The kite flips onto it's back... walk towards the kite, tug either the right or the left line, and the kite will rotate around. Boom... Lazy Susan. Once the kite rotates 360*, pull both lines, the kite will return to flying position, fly away. Two things I would suggest... I fly with my pointer fingers on the leaders for fine inputs on either line. This helps greatly during stalls & slides. Inputs when the kite is barely flying are micro inputs. Which brings me to the universal truth... more slack. Almost always, when you wonder why a trick failed, the answer is... more slack. Always walking (or at least a big step) towards the kite when you're trying a trick. Example... 1/2 axel, snap stall towards the side of the window, step forward, axel input to fly out towards the center of the window. If you're like me, the stepping forward is tough while the kite is in the middle of a trick. I kinda lock up out of fear that I'm about to crash. Very difficult to overcome, I'm still working on that. Last thing... patience. I worked on the axel for about a year before I really got it. It took me over a year to learn the 540. I know that I'm slow, but I didn't have anything but written advice and some uToob videos to learn from. I would read & watch, over & over, but most of that information would fly out of my head when I got out to the beach. I am happy to see someone else learning dual line, not the most popular, and certainly not the easiest kind of flying. Keep up with the videos, even if you don't post them, watching them in your down time will help you analyze what you're doing (right & wrong) and that will help greatly the next time you're out in the field. Let me leave you with this... and this...
    5 points
  2. The calm before the storm... well, not too calm, the winds were 10-15mph, but they were clean off of the water. My daughter, Bailey (7 years old), wanted to come out and fly her new Butterfly kite. The kids aren't as interested in kites as I am, so I always jump at the chance to fly with them. The Butterfly is made by X-Kites, and is better made than most kid's kites. It did fly well, right out of the box. It's amazing how cold a 70 degree day feels after weeks of hazy, hot & humid 90 degree days. Yay ! Sweatshirt weather ! Bailey also took a turn wrangling the Ultrafoil 15. It seems really big to her, and with any much more wind, would probably lift her off the ground. It was much easier to fly once it was properly lashed down to a convenient piece of driftwood. This is the one kite that I was itching to fly... the Joel Schultz Skyscraper. Yeah... this one's got some pull ! It's a very unique SLK that's going to get flown alot. It flew really well, even if it did make my arms a little longer. 300# line required ! Thanks, RC ! SO, Kite Season 2016 is off to a great start... hoping to get all the kids more involved this year, the other two seemed a little jealous when they saw the pictures. Bailey worked on her dual line skills today with the Snapshot foil. I think she'll be ready soon to fly the hot pink Action Kite that's been hanging from her ceiling since she was a baby. It will be good to see that classic in the air, it's 20-25 years old, but has never been flown !
    5 points
  3. HS... congratulations on your Virtual Freestyle entry. When I first started with VF, my first two entries to VF were rejected... one had too much OOF (out of frame) and the other was just not up to acceptable standards at the time. Congrats on winning a prize, too ! I'm never there to win it, I think it's just fun to stand & fly on the same (virtual) field with the best pilots in the world.
    4 points
  4. Good stuff ! I really like to see someone who has the bug, and is so enthusiastic about learning dual line flying. I get that... been there, for many years. The Fade at the end of the last video stuck with me. That was nice. I like to see how long I can hold a fade, which can seem like a boring exercise, but it really helps to get the 'feel' of the kite. The gentle inputs that a fade teaches you translate directly to the types of inputs need to hold a stall or a slide. 1/2 axels ? It took me forever to learn them, and I still don't know if I do them right. I do a fast snap stall input, but don't let the kite go tips horizontal, but give the axel input quickly after ditching the speed (when the nose is pointed at 10 o'clock or 2 o'clock, depending on which side I'm flying). I choke the axel just as the nose is pointed in the right direction (left or right, horizontal) and quickly take up the slack either with a step back or an arm sweep, or sometimes both if the wind is low. That's the best I can describe it, and like I said, I'm not sure if my 1/2 axels are 'real' 1/2 axels... Was the first video just the I2K, or did I see a different kite in there, too ? Maybe an Ozone at the end ? Different kites are going to be stronger with certain tricks, and I have to say, the I2K is a very difficult kite to trick. I really only like mine with the Spoilerz installed in higher winds. I don't like flying it without in lower winds. As a matter of fact, the I2K is the only high wind duallie that I have in my bag. I have an Alien, too, but we don't get along, and it stays home. I like the music & the creative editing. You've found the exact reason I film my flying, to watch and see what you're doing wrong. Or right, sometimes... Finally, about the weather watching... tell me that you can't drive past a flagpole without looking up to see which way the wind's blowing ?!? 8)
    4 points
  5. OK... day 2. I gotta say, I am totally exhausted. Something about walking around in the sand in the rain all day, I guess. Well, not rain all day, but as the forecast read, it rained 60% of the time. Didn't care, I was there to fly, and even at times when my kite was the only one in the air. But a really good time... it was good to see these faces that I only see once a year, and all the friendly residents of Long Beach Island. They're something else, so welcoming and friendly, just like kite folks. When I woke up, this is what I saw out of my window... these were taken from my balcony. Yeah, I guess I got up late... This is turning into a 'real' kite festival. Even with the grey weather, the turn-out was very impressive. This is only the second year that this festival has been held. These guys had an actual real-deal Buffalo Cody. First time I've seen one of those in person ! Wow, just Wow. I've seen this stack before, it just doesn't get old. So, what could top a stack of Rainbow Revs ? How about a Jimi stack. I got to examine these up close... the intricate sewing was very impressive. Of course, every 'real' kite festival needs a Bol race. I think I need to look into these for my kids, it looks like a good way to tire them out ! Yeah, those again. Did I mention I really like these ? 8) Something different, Dual Line and Quad line mega-fly ! Yup, some dual lines, too. I couldn't identify this kite yesterday, I suspected that it was something kinda rare, but it was confirmed today that these are 'Machines'. Not something you see everyday... and not one, but two !
    4 points
  6. Try a punch turn to quickly change direction 180*. I think I may do a combo turn, but it's more punch heavy. Punch, step forward (lunge), and use the other hand for steering input into the landing. It's all very fast and difficult to dissect. But I think that's how I do that one. When a light kite is stuck on it's back, try pushing forward on both lines, then pull it back out of the turtle. I remember that bugging me about the Shadow, too. The Fade is easier in lighter wind, and more dangerous to the kite in higher winds. If you lose the Fade in higher winds with the nose pointed down, it's only a split second before it turns into a high speed land dart. Lazies can be done without much risk in any wind, but look better in lower wind. I like them to go around slow & graceful, it just looks better to me. Fast yank & spank flying kinda looks like the kite is out of control... Hopefully some of this may be helpful, I enjoyed reading your blog. I would be lucky to fly with someone who has the same enthusiasm as you do, it's nice to talk with someone who speaks the same language... at least I can read about it.
    4 points
  7. Just forget about that 'Sleeping Beauty' launch... don't break your kite. What's the point ? Fade launch is OK, though. I hear you about wanting to concentrate on learning to fly dual lines, but you've got the rest of your life to learn duallies. You'll need at least that long ! The great thing about four lines is that they're easy to learn, and the learning curve is fast. If I'm on a crowded beach, I choose to fly a quad line because of the confidence the kite gives me. I've been trying to learn how to fly dual lines for ~15 years, but still won't fly them in a place where there are a bunch of people hanging out, only when I'm about the only person there. I totally prefer to fly dual line kites, but finding the right winds and conditions can be frustrating. You can put tails on quad line kites, too, BTW...
    4 points
  8. Work on the stationary stall, snap stall... then axel to a stall. A side slide is a stall that moves.... sideways. I frequently practice dual line 'hovering', see how long I can make the dual line kite look like a Rev.
    4 points
  9. The second log dump Session list: Breakthroughs of destruction Low/zero wind session with the 4D in a new park Doing basics and ground work with the Shadow The day of the good looking axles - a surprising light wind success First time with the Hydra and (experimental) flying without intention Conclusions can be found last in this comment/log dump ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ Breakthroughs of destruction Mon Sep 12 12:54:25 CEST 2016 GB forecasted 3-2 Maestro 3, Elixir, Tramontana - all on 20m 40 kg lines Wind was a bit on the harder side first, but then really quickly died out in the evening. It was slightly frustrating, when finished assembling a suitable kite (Elixir) for the new lower wind, it was time to assemble the next kite for yet lower wind. Maestro 3 Initially a bit hard wind with a hint of frame deformation in the gusts. Rock and roll and fun flying. Not much gentle touch here. The maestro 3 had no problem in staying in a turtle, however it didn't lay still in a turtle, but wobbled back and fourth and also changed the pitch of the kite. Doing the Lazy was just a question of waiting to the right moment when the backside of the kite was visible and the kite was (left-right) horisontal and then pull on one line. The beach/lawn is quite smooth and the wind came from the sea - yet the turbulence was there. For the moment I didn't mind the tumbling - it kind of suited the scene - felt wild. However for other moods, is there a way to dampen the random oscillations of the turtles in higher wind? The wind speed went down so I could practice holding fades for a while - were by no means fantastically performed, but it felt good. But everything has an end - a brief glimmer, a reflection of the last direct light from the sun for today, was seen in front of the kite nose. It was the spine that now had made it through the worn out nose and the end-cap had fallen off. Elixir I assembled the next kite for the now lower wind. It was hardly worth it - wind dropped again - next kite! Tramontana Wind continued to drop - too comfortable/too little time left, so I didn't bother with longer line set - stuck to 20m. Time to ponder over the preserved momentum from the turn - can't say I got it. More like managed to make it look not ugly, but the old way of making a 3/4 turn downwards still looked nice (but on the other hand almost all stalls and slides looks good with this kite). I still would like to learn the "speedy slide way" by flinging the kite in the downwards turn (as discussed in the topic http://kitelife.com/forum/topic/7443-trying-to-do-the-side-slide-with-a-two-line-kite/ ) in several places in the wind window. When disassembling the kites I noticed that there were two smaller holes in the Tramontana nose. The end caps of the upper leading edges had fallen off and the edges of the end of the carbon tube had worn two symmetrical holes on either side of the spine. These end-caps were quite short - should they have been longer or just better glued? Two holes in the Tramontana nose. The end caps of the two LEs had fallen off exposing the fabric of the nose to the sharp edges of the carbon tube. ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ Low/zero wind session with the 4D in a new park Sat Sep 17 11:15:00 CEST 2016 KG forecasted 1 4D 18' 50# lines The 4D session Me being close to this untested small field/park by the sea was caused by driving my oldest daughter to catch a small ferry to go to town. The lawn of the park was 20m max physical 15m max practical line length. There were a lot of families with children in the park, but the lawn was practically empty (many seemed occupied with building some obstacle path in the steep slope around the lawn). Wind was really a disappointment. The forecast spoke of 1m/s mean and 5m/s in the gusts - ha! The dew was still here and there in the lawn. Releasing relatively dry seeds of an dandelion gave a wind speed of about 0.3m/s (and at one measurement they just fell straight down). Remembering my previous attempts with the 4D in zero wind about a year ago, I actually considered just going home. Here in a park it could turn out to be a humiliating experience. Well it wasn't as bad as I feared and was for certain some good physical exercise. By end of the short (40min?) session keeping it in the air was a bit more fluent. Did a couple of axles and a few 360deg. The 360deg was not reliable enough to be used as the main way of gaining ground. Most often I needed to grab the kite itself to gain ground, but with 18' lines and a small field the walk of shame (or gain?) is short. Thoughts about low wind kiting Really, why should this much running around of the behalf of the pilot be required? When 14 years old, I built a balsa tissue model rogallo wing "hang glider" of my own design. The spanwidth was about 30cm (a foot for you over there). The spars were about 1.5mm square balsa sticks. The sail was made from thin (esaki?) tissue used otherwise for coating model aircrafts. It had no stand-offs but had balsa bows/arcs that had been steamed, then bent and allowed to dry so that they preserved the bow shape. The balsa arcs held the sail roughly in place. The rogallo wing was constantly assembled glued together with balsa cement. I never used this as a kite - just put a small weight under it where the miniature pilot would have been - and then watched it when it slowly flew like a glider across a large room. At this time I had never seen a stunt kite so this was all I did with it. How would this have worked as a kite during a no wind day? So today instead of doing the healthy physical exercise I'd much like to have had a slightly larger kite and a metre or two longer lines made of just a few strands from a kite line. The spars should not be solid as for the 4D but really really thin tubes and only the lightest fittings. Everything contained in a hardcase during transport. I guess it would be more practical to settle for any of the suggestions I got from @Wayne Dowler in http://kitelife.com/forum/topic/7468-karma-prism-red-4d-10-3-16/?do=findComment&comment=60646 Tissue for balsa models ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ Doing basics and ground work with the Shadow Sat Sep 24 17:58:43 CEST 2016 GB forecasted 2m/s HQ shadow 20m 40 kg lines The field should have worked for the wind direction in the forecast, but in reality it was very varying and somewhat dirty wind. Not a really good start, had difficulties in especially in doing fades but much else as well. Trying the sideways fling of of the initial turn of the side slide - well a shadow haven't got much mass to fling, but ok I was more aware of this part of the trick. A Shadow on the beach. No there is no tide that you can notice in the Baltic sea/archipelago. However the low water level made a few extra meters of the beach available. Lazy Susans are a nice and comforting for the trick self confidence with the right kite. I hadn't done any multi lazies before (and did not really today either) but when the kite was sinking down when being in a turtle I did three. How close in time should the lazies be to be considered to be a multi lazy? Sometimes it took a long time for the turtled kite to land - how can this be utilized and controlled? I think (but need to study this again) that the nose it quite low when/"in spite of" there is some tension in the lines (but how could the turtle be deep then?). It turned out that I could do the sliding prone pigtail slightly better by locking it more (thanks again @Wayne Dowler), so it was only needed to correct it two times during the session, but there is some kind of slippery stuff there I believe. Now I have cleaned the troublesome bridle part twice with concentrated manual dish washing detergent - lets see what the effect will be. When doing bridle adjustments to correct for the sliding pigtail, I could just as well try some settings out. Usually I don't adjust the bridle except for very light or very hard wind. It is like I'm impatient to have the normal flying going and therefore don't start with bridle tweaking unless I have a good reason to. This have meant when adjusting it I've always moved the nose towards me (or returning to factory settings). So this time I decided to do the opposite - adjust the nose way back (even though the wind was quite light). Flying felt much strange initially with very much over-steer, but this was something that could be largely handled. Returned to normal setting after a while. I then focused on something I've not been doing for a long while - the stall and nothing but the stall. Just let the kite freeze in it's position in a point in the sky. Stalls have for a long time only been a part of a trick with a short duration (well for the exception side slides then and landing by slowly lowering the kite). Maintaining the fixed stall was not very good - practice much needed. Another exercise that came to my mind was because of something I suggested in a "getting acquainted with the ground set of exercises" ( http://kitelife.com/forum/blogs/entry/200-exults-chunky-log-autumnwinter-2016/#comment-321 ). Same thing here, I have not been focused on doing this - more or less only focusing on on fade launches when starting from a "ground flare". I had actually forgot to do the proper set up angling the kite on the ground (which I actually did during late nineties but kind of forgot during my second "kite wave"). This exercise was quickly rewarding (as opposed to the stalls) and resulted in good looking belly launches. Another ground work shortcoming is to go directly into a wing tip stand - I never managed to go from an ordinary launch position quickly and without hesitation into a wing tip stand. And also the tip-stabs needed (and will need) some working on as well. There was much working on basics today, but I found that it was a good thing to do - no matter if it left much to desire to look good or if the exercise was quickly rewarding. Too much focus on "fancy" tricks makes you forget the basics which well performed can add to your over all appearance IMO. An early sign of the autumn - the birch tree is preparing for winter. And yes the Shadow is in the foreground. Lilacs during non-flowering off season - still looks beautiful. ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ The day of the good looking axles - a surprising light wind success Sun Sep 25 18:46:09 CEST 2016 GB forecasted 3m/s Prism Alien on 20m 40kg lines Prism 4D on 17m? ??kg (the original lines) The Alien part of the session I very much hesitated before going out on the second kite session for the weekend. Earlier this day I had sawn down a small maple tree in a steep slope by hand and chopped it into logs, so I longed for some rest. Besides my wife had made an apple pie and there was a kind of spontaneous family just being together time. No, I thought I can't give after for being a little exhausted and I can always limit the total time to 1.5h or so (perhaps)... Everything from the tree, except for every branch more narrow than a finger, eventually ends up in the tiled fireplaces or the wooden stove heating the house. Besides the residues from the tree gets very manageable, no bulky branches remain, just twigs and leaves. Testing a tiled fireplace before the winter. The whether forecast did it again, much less wind then in the forecast. I had just removed my Shadow from the kiting bag (due to the forecast) and now assembled the Alien more or less out of principle . It was a long time since flying the Alien so I felt a bit rusty on this kite and the low wind made me need to work to keep it airborne. Adjusting the stand offs to an more outward position helped a bit. After a while a kind of felt in control doing the basic flying. Did also FA to fade transition when I became more comfortable to see if I could transfer my more recent tricking abilities to this kite. Later flaring the Alien required quite much input - was it the kite or the kite in combination with the low wind? Should experiment more with the pull/release of the flare to also be able to handle the few kites/conditions that requires more input. Perhaps a spin-off would be a better flare technique for any kite? Axels are nice to do with the Alien. It got an tendency to do them flat and sometimes they even come out double. It is prone to lower the nose and effortlessly carry on with the axle rotation. Two things to practice another time with the Alien pops into my mind. Learn to do the double axle with a decent success ratio. The other is to transfer the good axels of the Alien to other kites by doing axels first with the Alien for a minute, then the other kite, then the Alien... The 4D part of the session Eventually the light wind flying with the Alien became too difficult as the wind dropped further. Guess which small kite I didn't notice when cleaning out the light wind kites in the bottom of my kite bag? - Yes, my 4D! I'd say that the tricking with this kite has been much limited. One reason is the light frame which require inputs much different from the kites I've "historically" have used. Another reason is that I haven't used it more or less unless I've been forced to do so by the conditions/circumstances. It could be an extremely limited space, in a hurry during travelling when my family wants to go to the restaurant or something or in no or close to no wind. After working to have the Alien remaining in the air it felt like a luxury to use the 4D - you did not need to work for the action. In the middle of the wind window you could even take a step forward to reduce the pressure on the sail. Inspired by the successful flat axels with the Alien I carried on to see if I could do similar axels with the 4D. It happened almost by accident when turning downwards at the edge of the wind window as if initiating a side slide, but instead only go to a "deep stall" (nose down and and outer wing a bit back) and then do a light pull the outer wing to do the axel. Further inspired by the success of the good looking axles I had a go at the fade launches. After getting used to the small movements required for that one, the fade launch worked as well. This session everything seemed to work with the 4D, so why not trying out Lazies? I didn't exit the Lazies, but I allowed them to sink all the way to the ground. It was possible to do several rotations before the 4D reached the ground. This day I felt that the 4D started to behave like a "real kite". The two light wind heroes of the day (though not within the usual wind range for the Alien). ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ First time with the Hydra and (experimental) flying without intention Sat Oct 1 19:05:04 CEST 2016 GB forecasted 5m/s (+quite hard gusts) ITW Hydra on 20m 40kg lines After 6.5 week of waiting I had finally received my Kymera and Hydra. "Unfortunately" this was a weekend of (mostly relatives) parties and meals here. The time for kiting I had, or actually took, was some kind of compromise that lead to flying in turbulent, hard and gusty wind. Sometimes the wind direction was so, so that it was favorable to fly over water and part of the time me and/or the kite needed to deal with obstacles on the ground. The Kymera was lighter and seemed to be designed for a lower wind range, so the Kymera had to rest today. Friday evening - Two frequent visitors that wouldn't have been bothered if I had gone directly for the long package instead of joining the dinner. My two new darlings - Two homeless kites have now found a good home where they will get a lot of attention. The figure flying had dramatic sound effects added in this wind with the Hydra. Sometimes even the frame was shuddering/vibrating, but I'd say that the pull was there but not so high as I had expected. I only managed to make a FA to fade transition once, while the fade launches were OK (look forward to try fades in less wind). Lazy Susans were there, but required a bit of a nose dip before the pull (that starts the rotation), but well it might have been the hard wind. When provoking the kite, e.g. with failed FA or an axle without proper set up and too little following slack (flatter/better ones after a better set up were also available however), and dealing with the in air recovery, much felt within reach. It felt like many kite movements were within reach also when using only small inputs. Many kite moves that can be turned into trick for those who know howto. I should perhaps see some trick tutorials to get a language to describe the parts of this more random kite movements or as a help to identify parts of tricks if possible. This could really be a themed training session in its own - Flying without intention, just provoke the kite (and a site administrator who advocates flying with intention?) and learn how to deal with it. Constantly toss around the kite and let it tumble before recovering. Repeat until you find something new that can be repeated - i.e. a trick. Let the circumstances and your current abilities decide what to learn - don't attempt something that is so distant that you will not be rewarded within a year or have tried again and again without any success. Do you already have seeds of tricks within you that can be repeated, developed and made reliable? To the extent that was possible to investigate during the current wind conditions it seems that this kite belongs to the category that falls over with a small turning radius (which I like more than the other option that the kite has a large turning radius at the edge of the wind window so that it hits the ground (which I don't like)). This was not a very good occasion to investigate the sideways flinging of the kite during the initial downwards turn, since the speed from the side slide in itself was so high that the sideways speed that you could get from the downwards turn was small in comparison. Another "turning-on-dime" trick that worked well was the snappy type of 2-point landing - not much sideways movement during the landing. I don't know if this was the kite or if the harder wind makes this landing easier. Actually I don't know if a low wind 2-point landing is any more difficult to make look good than when performed in higher wind. Belly landings were no problem but a bit to my surprise the (few) belly launches I tried were not successful. I need to figure this out and not only blame the conditions. I'm not into yo-yo tricks and getting into and out of wrapped mode flying. Today I wrapped the lines around the LEs by accident more than one time. This kite seems to ask for yo-yo tricks and I should learn howto get out of the LE wrapped line flying. The end of session disassembly turned out to be more profound than intended. The connector pin sitting in one of the DT-15 spreaders had glue residues on it. This caused the centre-T to hold it tight. When removing that LS the centre pin remained in centre-T and then detached from the LS. "OK I'll glue it back ageing then" was my initial thought, but then I realised that the area around the centre-T could be made stronger by instead gluing the connector pin to the other LS than it was originally glued to. The reason why I thought that I could make it stronger was that the LS that didn't have the pin was not very symmetric. Gluing the pin to it should make it stronger. The LS connector pin that came lose and the cross section of the two LS. One of the LS had a non constant wall thickness. ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ Conclusions from the period September 17th to October 1st I've had a good low wind experiences and also had too much wind, but there is no point in denying it any longer, with the right kite in somewhat hard wind kite spanking is fun. More no wind flying after the at least somewhat successful flying with the 4D or get another kite (which will certainly be applauded by my wife and family) even more adopted for indoor and no wind flying. Or try what @John Barresi wrote in http://kitelife.com/forum/topic/6520-4d/?do=findComment&comment=51676 "continuing a backwards stroll from the kite" (meaning always in the direction of the lines?). Lazy Susans - continue to look for the right moment to exit the turtle. Try to do the rotations with no time in between so I get a true multi lazy. Look for an opportunity to practice the un-turtling with the 4D, so that I can add lazies to the 4D tricks. Practice basics and make it shine and work an many kites and conditions: Flat axels -let them sink down with the nose and back with the wing to be pulled. Go on doing the ground work - make the belly landing and take off efficient and effortless in any condition - can this be turned into something that looks like a bouncing kite? Yes, do the rest of the accessible ground work really controlled - cart wheels, coin tosses, wing tip stands... Do side slides and be aware of the sideways fling of the downwards turn. Can I fling the kite against the wind as well? Can the side slide be started from different incoming angles of the kite and not only when going parallel to the ground to the end of the wind window. Finally and obviously - get to know the two new kites, the Kymera and the Hydra. All work and no play... Well ahh... disregard that last statement of the previous image text. (Local wind direction wasn't any good anyhow.) Fighting the biological diversity in this hedge (the intended mono culture is some kind of Laburnum/"golden chain" and the invading species is some kind of wild rose with dense thorns that managed to escape from it's restricted area). As Christopher Lambert said in the (preferably) first Highlander movie: "There can only be one!".
    3 points
  10. Second Week... this time it was my son's turn to spend some time on the beach with Dad... Mick is 8.5 years old, and he said (after watching a KL video) that he wanted to learn to fly like that. He's held the quad handles before, but this was his first solo flight. Oh, my poor MV ! No idea what abuse it's about to endure ! Working on his control with some ground passes... also learning the wind window. He got some inverted hover practice in, the biggest challenge is learning to keep those hands in front, in control, at this point... Another launch... too bad the sun is setting so early. we could've been out there for another couple of hours. OMG... hands in front ! Yeah, the patience level required with an 8 YO is much greater than with an adult... Another ground pass. I think he might've done better than I did my first time out with a quad. My poor MV had it's roughest outing, EVER. Totally worth the price of admission, and really, no visible damage to the kite after countless hits. The endcaps did not want to come off the spars when we packed up, that was the worst thing that happened...
    3 points
  11. Here's an image I tried to take of all the Revs. Sort of a kite tunnel. Spent some time assembling them & then trying to stage the picture. I then stood on the stairway trying to get the angle right. The Rev collection has grown a bit since then. I need to do a new group image. Last Christmas I decided to shoot an image with the tree. This may become a tradition. SHBKF
    3 points
  12. Fun. Try shifting your point of focus while flying, just as an experiment... Instead of "flying the kite", consider the idea of "flying the center panel". This mental shift gradually moves your point of control inside the engine of the kite part of the time, and has a tendency to both make your inputs more efficient and cause the kite to fly straighter when doing straight lines.
    3 points
  13. It is interesting to read about revisiting kites with the memories that go along with them. On my way home in the evening yesterday I stopped to fly at an abandoned soft ball field. It's not a great place to fly but when the wind is out of the west it is at least possible. So I opened the trunk, pulled out my original Zephyr & gave it a go. Wind was the usual choppy gusty variable mix of three to eighteen measured just above my head. Did I make progress toward advanced flying? Not hardly. But I did enjoy myself & remembered my early flights with that very kite in many different locations as it was my only decent kite for some time. Only flew for thirty minutes & stopped before I broke it. I have used up a number of spares on the old Z in the past. Sun was going down & the wind died as I left. Got my kite fix, had a marvelous time. SHBKF
    3 points
  14. Great music to accompany great flying. Loved it. Can't remember the last time I actually sat through an 8+ minute Youtube vid! Frank
    3 points
  15. Estimated crowd of 30,000 over 2 days at KOLM last September, packed like sardines! The crowd is what makes the show, they are the inspiration and the end product. Congrats on you debut -- good show.
    3 points
  16. Some video ? Yes, I had the GoPro, but unfortunately didn't have enough battery for the xtra low wind flying over the water at the end. I was so disappointed when I downloaded it, that was the best part of the day. The rest of these clips are just pretty much me struggling to keep the kites flying in the dying wind. If you skip to the last minute (or can stand to watch it that far), you'll be able to see how narrow this little spit of land is. It would be pretty easy to accidentally back up into the water while flying !
    3 points
  17. You have inspired, guided, helped & encouraged me many times. Thank you, SHBKF
    3 points
  18. Who needs a man cave, when you have a kite dungeon
    3 points
  19. Interesting! No one I know that flies indoors, uses "handles". They usually make loops out of bridle line and either thread it on like sleeving or just larkshead the lines to them. A very few use finger straps. A tip: as your kite goes overhead and starts down, be sure to turn with it and step back to maintain tension in the lines. Good length to start is 10' - 12', shorter as you get better. Full disclosure: I am NOT a very good dualie pilot indoors. Just never connected with it. Just a little more effort than my old body wants to give. That said - I do try one at times and can reasonably get it to do what I want. Quads and gliders are a different thing altogether!!! PS: I get the use of an indoor soccer center.
    2 points
  20. Cool, looks like you got a collectible. The first line of Japanese is a phonetic spelling that sounds out as Eugene Freeman. I was not able to find any information on him either, although there is a Peggy Freeman listed as a contact for the Southern Oregon Kite Festival on the WKA event calendar. Not sure what the character that looks like an "a" is. Could just be an English A for a middle initial. "san" roughly translates as Mr. but is gender neutral. I am assuming the characters above "Tsutomu Hiroi" is his Japanese name. This is coming from someone who took a couple years of Japanese in high school and had to look up a character chart because I forgot most of it though.
    2 points
  21. For Victoria lately, the wind is either "Kite won't fly" or "Kite will shred".
    2 points
  22. I just have to say again how fun and insightful this community is! I can't always get out to the field during the week and recently haven't had tonnes of time to hash out proper responses sometimes. But every time I check my phone I find someone on KiteLife with a new insight, a thoughtful critique, or a fantastic video. I'm extra glad to see the spirit doesn't wane as Winter approaches! I'd also love to find these definitions! It seems hard enough to learn these tricks without having to guess what people mean by the terms! You got my meaning pretty much exactly this time though This might be too out there but now that I'm thinking about it we almost need to differentiate between 4 things: The sharpness (or how quickly the direction change takes place) The intensity of the pull The distance the line pulled travels (especially in relation to the other line?) how much slack is given to each line (kind of covered by 3) This is such a great list of tricks that I keep forgetting about! I wish there were a video for every trick on the list I think you are totally right. I've had so much fun just trying to axel with my nose pointed in different positions and with different amounts of slack/pop. And those Fractured axels are going to take lots of practice before they are second nature, especially on the quantum! My only annoyance is that trying Half axel type inputs still leaves me in the walk of contemplation too often, and that problem would go away if I were a little less focused on doing them perfectly horizontally. I'm going to think about these now that I'm getting a little more predictable with my axels. The other slack line flyer I met on the field does a move like this that seems so graceful. It was really fun, and super informative to my flying. I could not fly at all without the lights by the time it got dark (1min in to that video or so) (in fact we tried with a flashlight and it was truly terrifying. I did my first spin axels with the lights on, made much easier because the trailing edge was 18g heavier than usual! I haven't been out much yet at night mostly because that's when it rains the most here. We fall back an hour tonight so I lose most of the afternoon light starting tomorrow. I'm sure this will induce many more night flying sessions. I find that every time I watch a kite video I get inspired to try something new/different. Rob's last Skyburner XXL video makes me want to try more vertical control, it looks like he can raise and lower the kite at will in a fade! I'd love to see any footage of your flying if you manage to snap some sometime! It might also be cool to try little 'one trick challenge' type threads where we post things like our longest fade, stall, slide, most spins, and such there's a video somewhere of someone doing 100 backspins that is super motivational!
    2 points
  23. The Alien was my high wind kite, although my high winds weren't very high to start with. But the smaller size, it added up to less pull and that was OK by me. My problem was the LE launch away from the center of the window - the kites odd shape seemed to hold it down instead of helping it up. Otherwise it was fun to fly.
    2 points
  24. This works!! Thanks Exult, I can reliably turtle from horizontal flight now! Great feeling. It is much harder to maintain altitude in a turtle than in a fade hey? And I still can't get the kite to backspin or anything. But progress! Yeah, I think I was talking about the 'provoking the kite' stuff, not the slides. During "air recoveries" I am starting to get the feeling that each position the kite takes on has some combo of inputs that would turn it into a trick. Sorta like how those cruddy half axles have now turned into decent snap turtles! When talking about slides though I noticed I can point the kite straight downward at the edge of the window for quite awhile and still usually have enough momentum to slide. Hopefully this means the turn radius of your newer kites won't hinder your slides too too much!
    2 points
  25. It might be so that your hands already know a snappy turtle initiated from horisontal flight which could be used in harder wind. Consider your early attempt of a half axel http://kitelife.com/forum/blogs/entry/194-lunchtime-slides-stalls-and-a-bunch-of-half-axle-practice/ - you instead briefly went into a turtle. Perhaps continue to work on this snappy turtle work that you accidentally started? Another more obvious exercise would be to do a snap stall with conviction and, yes, snappiness while running downwind. I assume you would use the Quantum for this harder wind session? I've never tried one - but from the discussions it sounds like it would have a bit heavy frame which would help tricking in these winds. Finally, you don't need to develop strength. It is not strength as in power kiting. The inertia of your arms from a snappy movement can be enough to snap stall and turtle in higher wind. I'm not sure we are discussing the same thing - by the "fall over" I meant the 3/4 downwards turn of the start of the side slide which the Hydra does almost by itself (though I'd like to verify that during better conditions). (This is a behavior that is shared by all my kites designed during the nineties (with the possible exception of City Session). On the other hand the Infinity, Maestro 3 and 4D instead want to make a very wide turn when turned downwards at the edge of the wind window. Yes they can make sharp turns elsewhere and I should figure out if I can make (force) them to do the turn at the edge as well.) That thought (about separating the log dumps) has struck my mind recently. Originally I intended to make very short flight log entries - just a couple of lines, possibly not even full sentences everywhere. Well it didn't go that way. You need to test before you find "a working concept"/"your form"/"something that works well". Initially I chose between having a separate blog for the flight logs or doing it as now have implemented it (by including it all in a blog entry + comments). Perhaps this suggested third way of having a blog entry per log dump makes it easier to find the new log dumps and also makes the size of the blog entry manageable (though you miss out some organisation when the log dumps are not any longer bundled in to a blog entry). I think that I'll go that way (with a blog entry per dump) after "Autumn/Winter 2016" blog entry period is finished. To on the other hand change the existing (large) blog entry blog entry would be difficult. Splitting up the current blog entry into new blog entries corresponding the different log dumps and then include the comments without affecting the time stamps is not something an ordinary KL member can do. This was something that I came up with during the work with the hedge. A case of hands working and mind wandering. And I thought that I was original...
    2 points
  26. This festival would've been even bigger if the weather had cooperated. Most of the shots of the dual and quad line flying were in between the raindrops, and if I had looked back to the North, where the big SLKs were flying in the morning, there were only a handful still flying. The sport kite crew was a heartier bunch, and the skill level was over the top. They all still make me feel like the newbie, but in reality, I am. Most of these faces are the same ones that I remember when I walked onto my first kite festival field over 10 years ago. I only see these people once or twice a year, but it is certainly a pleasure to see them all again. Sunday was to be my last day there, as I had to work on Monday. I woke up to a driving rain, 40mph winds, so there was no reason to hang around. I was still cold & tired from the day before, so I packed up and headed home with the seat heater going full blast to sooth my aches & pains. Yup, welcome back to New York. It was nice to have a vacation from this, no matter how short. It's amazing how far away you can get from this with only a few hours of driving !
    2 points
  27. I have(/had) two ways in which I will (or will continue to) attempt to address this: 1. Almost do a belly landing. Let the kite spin horisontally 180 deg and then pull slightly to get the nose pointing upwards and then let the kite settle. The silly thing is that I can do a 540 deg horisontal spin(rotation?) quite close to the ground in a reasonably reliable way, but not a predictable 180 deg one (the 180 deg is instead a failure mode of the 540 deg). 2. Attempt a snappy partial turtle and then pull to drive the kite into the ground backwards. Try from horisontal flight, 45 deg from the ground and when going in vertical to the ground. Can the sideways movement relative to the ground of the partial snappy turtle be minimised? I suppose the alternative #1 is closest to your punch/lunge/"steering landing"? Anyhow now I'll try it starting from all three ways. I know that general trick to get out of a turtle, but that would like break the flow of the Lazy (or require accepting the the lazy + nose dip as a trick/"trick combo" in it's own). I'm going to try out two ways: 1. Make the early "sloppy" exit - Try to make it look as Lazy Susan like as possible or accept it as a separate trick. 2. Try starting and maintaining a deep turtle during the revolution on it's back to have it set up for the "unturtle" exit. The nose should already be deep down so that pulling the lines should be all that is required to get out of it. Might be impossible if the pull causing the kite to Lazy Susan rotate, makes the turtle less deep. With the above it sounds like I would be some Lazy Susan expert, always doing them well controlled. This is not the case. The above is what I would like to try out and I'm very far from knowing that the above is a way forward. Regarding the Shadow, I remember that I needed to figure out how to make it fade launch. I'll be observant if there are any more tricks involving pitch changes that requires extra attention for the Shadow. Is the Shadow a good kite to continue to learn those "flipping aspects" after you have learnt a such a trick on another kite to fully master that trick ("If I can make it here, I can make it anywhere" as sung by Liza Minnelli). Should one be able to do a trick on a group of kites before you can claim the trick? Or am I just too happy to draw conclusions here? Unfortunately I can't try the above things out this weekend because of obligations colliding with the only good forecasted kiting weather for the local field. However I seek comfort in what now FINALLY have been sent and is on it's way (in transit as writing) to me: My new Kymera and Hydra kites! Let the good courier company succeed in their mission so that my weekend will not be one of agony, misery and pain. To a degree it was this Hydra video that got me back into kiting about 1.5 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvUJ9bxB0Gc It is full of speed and the tricks are clear (if you watch it several times at least). This is something of a long term goal and I know that I will not get there just because I get the same kite model. But yes, I want the same kite model - not ever trying that kite has never really been an option. One thing to see is if there are any flight characteristics from the kite/video that I can recognise and now feel. Trying in my case means buying, because of the lack of OPKs here. I think you roughly know my opinion here (as I know your's), but that is honestly and totally perfectly well and accepted. Well anyhow, for me it is a mood thing - With the right kite in harder wind it can feel right (and for a bystander, however, perhaps even more incomprehensible than normal tricking if that is possible). Another example, imagine flying calmly with no more input than required and then during 10s do yank and spank quick moves of turning/tricking/landing and then return to more normal flying. Once again I sound like I just could do this (transition of styles) at will in any wind (which is not the case). I'd say a combination of viewing from a different angle or getting a new landing description and also a kind of verification that I wasn't completely off the track (fade/lazy/wind). However even if not every word can be converted to new and improved tricks it is always nice to hear about how other see things, their experiences and relate to it. Kiting becomes more live when shared, even in this distant way. A conversation can also lead you into coming up with new ideas that you wouldn't have thought of yourself. Maybe some other part of a message can only be applied (or makes sense) at a later date when one have gotten new/more experience as well. I'm honored/flattered/glad/"think it is a much positive comment", you name it. Thank you!
    2 points
  28. Thanks Exult! Yeah I've managed to get the kite to flip into a turtle but only right at the top of the window and then I'm immediately running backward to try and take up slack on the lines. Watching some videos suggests it might be easier to both turtle and fade elsewhere in the window? I really like your instructions for these flips, I think they make a lot of sense. Especially the walking, I'm starting to feel like most of my difficulties still come from getting my hands and feet to collaborate. The "bounce" descriptions make a lot of sense too. Can't wait to try all this out! I got out once this week and found no wind at all on arrival and now I'm traveling for work but brought the quantum and will hopefully find a new spot to fly (thanks for your 'learning to fly in unfamiliar locations post
    2 points
  29. Pretty sure the candle will be enough. Resins may degrade the line over time. The wax just makes the line a bit "grippier" !
    2 points
  30. BTW... all of the kids are training on multi-line kites. I can't wait to see them all solo. Can't wait to sit back in my chair and watch them all fly together. All in good time...
    2 points
  31. Don't worry too much about the I2K, it's a tough kite. It has a lot of built in tension when properly assembled, and I think that adds to it's strength. The leading edges should be curved when you have the proper amount of tension on the tips. I hope you have the Spoilerz for it, they make the kite fly comfortably in winds that you would normally need a vented kite for. I don't know if the Prism site has the documentation available for the I2K still, so I attached the field cards below... http://ferob.com/kites/prism-illusion.pdf http://ferob.com/kites/illusionHighWindSpoilers.pdf My I2K with the Spoilerz installed...
    2 points
  32. A long time ago when I started out one person was very very helpful and patient. He shared much kite knowledge through the phone (lived in another city) - time after time and was never in a hurry doing so. Kite knowledge is "meant" to be brought forward to others. Occasionally being heavy on the lines feels right and might be what one would like to express(ugh, that sounded deep)/try out. Some times sense the difference between heavy and light flight (if kite, ground, lines and wind allow). But I agree, less is more is art that I strive for. When I happen to succeed with the small input way, it can give a marvelous sense of control. It is a bit like the gas pedal on a car - you don't move your foot very much, but the effect is large.
    2 points
  33. You already seem to have started. Perhaps there is no need to refine the process further?: Photo document the session well. Photos on active siblings and ice-cream/pizza could be extra efficient. Wait for a calm non-kiting situation when the children are reasonably receptive/focused. "Happen" to show the kiting photos after some other photos. Tell your envy engineered story of the kiting session highlights. By no means suggest that they should join the next time (don't over do it). If it worked, do your best to live up to the contents of point #4.
    2 points
  34. Thanks Exult! I'm hoping to film myself to force me to think harder about my actions as well as to communicate my progression to whomever is interested! It has worked well in other areas of my life and been lots of fun at the same time. I'm not much of a videographer yet so that's also going to be a constantly improving process. I'm loving the hunt for used kites too! I have all the time in the world to get into brand new ones We are a pretty industrious household so I'm hoping to get into kite repair and building in the future. That's the most abuse I've ever given the ozone by far and mostly because the line slipped off my finger... whoops! I'm pretty happy with the range I can fly in, but I haven't pushed the upper limit of the quantum much as I'm still not good at handling the pull after a failed snap stall in the middle of the window.
    2 points
  35. Just put a kite up in the sky. There's not enough people flying to the right music! An 11' delta I launched earlier is now looking like a black hole in the sky. I love what little heat I get. But get out there and fly! Heck with the heat! Once you're out there the heat seems to vanish! And Becomes you and the kite!
    2 points
  36. I appreciate the continued kite display decorations/art of yours. Especially the X-mas kite arrangement, OK the sun-through-the-sail-trick can make a kind of shining kite, but have never thought of doing it in colour (but then Swedish X-mas trees tend to have just white illumination). A thought I got after a while regarding your eight Microns - they could be used to make a star-like flower cone, slightly less than 2m (78inch) in diameter. Join all, lets say, left wing tips and then join all spines nose to end. ...No, I see a problem here - the front and rear side of the spine wouldn't meet. Instead rotate every second kite so that instead the right wing tip would be in the centre - now the spines should meet. ...No, a new problem - looks like the kite edges would over lap ...could the overlapping be done in a nice looking systematic way...? Perhaps this star/flower thought is not original, after all you had already realised kite decorations, while I just started to think about them.
    2 points
  37. I agree. And every 5 minutes or so when a thermal gust wafted through it was very easy flying. But otherwise there was virtually no wind.
    2 points
  38. A few years ago this was the first dual line video I viewed that allowed me to really see what was going on. The black kite was magic. I knew I needed one. The views from the side showed the movement of the kite transitioning from one position to the next. Other videos I had seen were from the flier's perspective & I could not tell which way the nose was facing even. I had Know Eye Deer how to even begin the journey but I knew I wanted to get there. Still on that path today. And I even have my "Black Magic" kite now. "The Ring Wraiths ride in black, ride on." SHBKF
    2 points
  39. End of the day, it's time on the lines, but nobody taught me this style of flying... I wanted to do more, wanted to fly when nobody else was able to fly, do things that no one else has done. That fires me up still... And now, I'm in the even more stimulated by showing others how to replicate this, to shorten the learning curve. I'm here to tell you, once you've got the "Rev 101" knowledge that I've discovered and assembled for my clinics and lessons, being able to whip out a Rev on 30' in the street in front of your house is something almost anyone can do without necessarily having to run around or even break a serious sweat. Half the time folks are actually handicapped before they even start due to tuning, lack of understanding of frame / flex dynamic, uneven lines, etc, etc... In most cases when I encounter a new student (novice or experienced), we go through a "strip down" to reset or refine these details - almost without fail, their experience is changed completely even without having learned new skills yet. Thanks for the props, glad to be paying it forward.
    2 points
  40. Your one-handed flying is getting pretty good Frankie, nice job.
    2 points
  41. Great choice of tunes to match the flying. Mellow baby. Great job.
    2 points
  42. Great debut. Looked like plenty of high jinx and fun was had by all. Many smiles in the pics. Well done.
    2 points
  43. I must say it was a great weekend. I am glad to see John bring a young team together. Team KiteLife did very well and the crowd was more than pleased. I look forward to see a even better kite fest next year. I will try and post a link to some of my pictures at a later date, they have not been edit and are to large to post here. Thanks some much to the team Mike S
    2 points
  44. Oh, sorry about that... old school forum etiquette.
    2 points
  45. I never looked at the climb, I just do what I love to do and find myself in new places.
    2 points
  46. No wrong way to fly, just talking shop - Weider, Watty, de Rooy, Leonard, Marchel, Benz, Russell, Maiocci, Polo, van der Graaf, all these guys fly different, and all are great.
    2 points
  47. I get ya Frankie. I really like your style. I feel the article was written to help give direction to novice fliers like me. While I have advanced a bit it still helps me to focus my efforts. Intent is still important for my Rev flying plus I am involved with many other types of kites as well. So I use the thought across the spectrum. Your videos are inspiring to me. I am flying short line urban type flying more & more as I find it works well for my local inland condition. Plus I really get a kick out of it. Keep flyin, SHBKF
    2 points
  48. A great testimony. You've come along a wonderful path growing all the way. The change in perception is life changing. Sharing it is magnificent. I am right behind you. SHBKF
    2 points
  49. That's the one that gets me excited every time I watch that video. It's a rare treat to see a move like that executed so cleanly.
    2 points
  50. So glad you did ! Always good to see one of the versions of that video. Wasn't there another cut with an AC-DC song ? I think the long tip-drag in the water side-slide is my favorite part, or maybe the multiple unroll into flic-flac, 6 inches off the water !
    2 points
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