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  1. Quad Lines Revolution Kites Tricks "Name"

    in Beginners

    Posted

    19. Clockwork (tick tock) Clockwise

    Don't cross out clockwork for clockwise. They are 2 different things.

    Clockwork (also known as clock turns?) are in place rotations around the center of the kite with stops every so often, eg. at 90degrees, 45 degrees, etc.

    Clockwise (and counterclockwise) are directions of rotation.

    Iron-cross

    re-fuel

    nesting

    pass-thru

    I have no clue what these are ... care to explain ?

    iron-cross (shape ?)

    re-fuel, nesting, and pass-thru ?

    Those sound like pairs/team terms. I have more of that kind if you want, but I figured you might want to stick to terms for individual flying.

    I thought, Clockwork is a "trick" name ... while clockwise is movement or path or just a name...

    After think about it for a moment ... 7 o'Clock ... yeah, it's "pointing"

    I will fix it later (I'm on tablet) Done.

    Correct ... terms for individual flying only, not Team ... thanks for explaination.

  3. Quad Lines Revolution Kites Tricks "Name"

    in Beginners

    Posted

    Ok, I get it now. You're looking for single word terms, not yet trick names like your title says.

    How about forward, reverse, inverted, arc, clockwise, counterclockwise, glide.

    Not sure if you're looking for things like square, box, diamond.

    Yes ... those are excellent words ... I will add those words to list as I get on the computer (not tablet)

    Done.

    Thanks !!!

  7. Quad Lines Revolution Kites Tricks "Name"

    in Beginners

    Posted

    • Land
    • Up
    • Down
    • Left
    • Right
    • Turn
    • Spin
    • Slide
    • Hover
    • Center
    • Front
    • Back
    • Pinwheel (spinning at the left or right edge of the wing)
    • Dive
    • Stop
    • Dip
    • Circle
    • Figure 8
    • Clockwork (o'Clock)
    • Clockwise (turning)
    • Diagonal
    • Jump
    • Flip
    • ? Sit ?
    • Walk
    • Run
    • Wave
    • Roll
    • Crash
    • Died
    • Straight
    • Line
    • Pivot
    • Tip
    • Edge
    • Forward
    • Reverse
    • Inverted
    • Arc

    • Formation

    • Follow
    • ? Split ?
    • ? Mirror ?
    • Go
    • Glide
    • Square
    • Box
    • Diamond
    • Triangle
    • ? Ladder ?
    • Catch
    • Throw
    • ? Fall ?

    Maybe it won't be 50 single name ... maybe more ... let's see how far it goes, just for now ...

    Rodney Mullen, The Godfather of Skateboarding, gave me a new way of thinking to break it down to very basic foundation, before to perform a single trick (trick name, example : frontside flip)

    I do not know if John Barresi is the Godfather of Quad Lines Revolution Kite Flying, but I do know that he has won A LOT of competition and many others ... John Barresi's Biography

    Speaking of Sport Kite Tips ... this is my lesson for now, as well as for any beginner who wish to fly ...

    • Work on 2-3 things at a time, focus on them, try to identify whats next in a natural progression, ask other fliers.

    ... John Barresi, thanks for all those videos you created :)

    ... Thanks to other Quad Rev Kite Flyers post your videos ... I enjoying them.

    Alright, back to topic about Quad Lines Revolution Kites Tricks "Name" ...

    ... I do not know all the trick names or its definition ... Let's finish all the names.

    The question mark on the "? word ?" means "not sure about it, if it's exist or has a meaning"

    Thanks !!!

    Chad

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  8. Nice Kite building Site

    in Kite Making

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    According to video ... You have to check your message ? ... LOL ... Love that stainless sewing/work table ... are those paper weight magnetic ? ... I see that you changed a lot of upper clothes :) ... I assume, this is not in one day (18 hours) job, correct ? ... Nice dog wants your attention :) ... Ahhh, that is smart to use the school glue stick ... text message again : "I am busy" ... Geeez, that looks very tedious starting at 5:02 ... I really like that spars/rods jig ... similar to paracord bracelet jig ... I have no idea what you were doing starting at 7:21 ... ... Ahhh ... it's not revolution kite ... it's something like "Prism" kite

    Thanks for uploading this "awesome" video ... you put alot of time in it ... how many hours ?

    Very interesting (education) "building your own kite" website

    Speaking of "it's not revolution kite" ... I don't know how I got here, but now I did noticed this ... KiteLife Forum > Single Line > Kite Making

  9. Leading Edge and Down Spars

    in Adjustments and Modifications

    Posted

    By words - I meant there are WORDS on the labels, in the case of the older rods - that is ALL there are! Rev started using the "feather" system several years ago on silver labels. Prior rods used gold labels and only the words!! Knowing what each means you can identify the rods no matter the label or year made.

    Just to add - EXP rods (no feathers on label) = 3 wrap ultralight rods

    Gotcha ... thanks ... I thought, it was some kind of code talk :)

  10. Leading Edge and Down Spars

    in Adjustments and Modifications

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    The constant movement you see in John's hands are minor adjustments to keep the kite stationary. If he kept his hands still the kite would be bouncing around. He is counteracting the kite's tendency to move in response to the wind.

    That is what I thought ... so, I am on the right track :)

    The kite needs to have a cupped shape in order to give the pilot better control. This cupping is achieved in lighter wind by using more "brake" and a light (flexible) frame.

    Understood.

    You will need at least 40 hours on the "training kite" before you can expect to have ANY control over it, and even then you will probably break something, possibly bones.

    I already hit over 40 hours since I bought it :) ... http://kitelife.com/forum/uploads/gallery/album_433/gallery_10149_433_461199.png

    I tame my oZone 3m at 21 mph ... even, at the turbo mode bulleye zone ... I love that workout :)

    Static flying in very light wind is not practical

    For example, less than 7 mph ... this is umm this video below ... it is hard for me to believe that ... I like one of the comment said "How much is NO WIND" ? LOL !!! ... Ocean or shoreline always have wind, correct ? ... I understand it is achievable by non-stop walking backward

    The key to control is finding the balance point on the handles, where the kite, in any position will not move forward, backward, or sideways.

    I shifting my handles alot to keep it balance, because wind is so fluxuating as well as multi-direction wind stream ... You are correct.

    Get together with other flyers somewhere. Where do you live? Check the members tab at the top of the page for someone near you. Go to a kite festival. Drive 2 or 3 hours if you have to.

    It is a great idea to fly with flyers somewhere ... Bowling Green, KY ... closest one I found is BBailey49 at Oak Ridge, TN ... Ok, I wil try to find those Kite Festival.

    A word of warning -- do not fly near any power lines or airports. Stay away from trees; they eat kites for lunch. Do not fly your kite near people, as you may have seen in videos, until you have more than 110% control of the kite, and then be very, VERY careful. If there is any chance you're going to crash, run towards the kite or just drop the handles. This will reduce the severity of impact with the ground.

    Of course, I preferred let go "one" handle ...

    Watch the beginner tutorials here, and watch them again and again until you're sick of watching them. Then watch them again several times. Pick one thing you want to learn and go out and practice that. And I don't mean advanced tricks, you must be able to crawl before you learn to walk, you must be able to walk before you learn to run.

    Like John said in the other discussion ... create a flash card to perform a trick for an hour ... until completed ... then pick 2 flash cards as routine trick etc etc ... You are right.

    I did finally get the PB 4-8 and it is without a doubt a much different beast. Static flying in very light wind is not practical.

    That is very very true with my oZone power kite vs Rev B kite ... 3m oZone is a beast at least 15mph, well now, it's a baby beast ... LOL ...

    Just to clear/add to any confusion on rods

    Thanks for the clear understanding, except ... words ? what is "words" ?

    Learn to monitor that flex

    That is my problem there and still working on "how to read the flex" ... I added the 4 ft long and thin orange safety flag on left and right corner of the kite to allow me see the windstream ... It is a good lesson.

    Thank you ... all of you ... now ... I am more comfortable of knowing what to do next or practice :)

    Speaking of youtube.com vimeo.com and video sites etc etc ... it would be very helpful, if you add the "true" closed captions on all kite tutorials, this will encourage deaf/hard of hearing people like me to continue or learn how to fly kite ... also add ... "between wind speed" ... "lines length" etc in the description and please don't leave it blank ... also write/type "Rev Kite" in the topic, it will help youtube search engine can find your kite video easier, rather than "this is awesome" ... youtube search engine will never know that "this is awesome" is a kite video that people has been searching for.

    THANK YOU SO MUCH !!!

    Chad

  15. Leading Edge and Down Spars

    in Adjustments and Modifications

    Posted

    Wow !!! I am shocked that many said 200 ft lines is too long and this can be true that cannot use it at smaller fields or places ... I guess, I go with 120 ft lines, then, thanks ...

    Yes, golf shaft for verticals on a higher windy day, that is what I meant ... speaking of light winds (less than 7 mph) ... with all the lightest everything on my B-Series kite ... it lasts like 2 seconds then landed ... is this because my 80 ft lines is too long for the light wind ? ... if less than 5 mph winds ... is 30 ft will works better ? ... I even tried or used blue masking tape to cover the vents very evenly ... the effect with that tape is barely unnoticeable difference ... I have not tried to cover "ALL" (including the leading edge vent) ...

    Only thing that is fun to fly is when the wind are at least 10+ mph (2 or 3 times a week) and up to 21 mph (1 time every 2 weeks) ... Maybe I should have got the Blast 2-4 or maybe 4-8 for light winds, instead of B-Series because I already have a 3m oZone Little Devil power kite... I don't know if you have flew the blast before, but would like to know your opinion on about this blast (both size)

    3-wrap Racing Green Rods is very good and better than 2-wrap Ultralite Rods (I probably never get this one again, because I have mid-vent kite and it's too fragile)... I have one Racing Rod left to go ... Time for me to order some more rods on eBay or maybe some kites online store ... closest kite shop is Chicago ... 408 miles ... any suggestions ?

    "Hands/handles are shaking everywhere" is like trying to "shoo" aggressively those few annoying flies flying in your face ... I know that nothing is stationary ... that is not what I meant ... (wow, how can I explain this simpler) ... I looked up some words ... best I can explain ... like a extreme essential tremor hands ...

    ... Do I need to move that rapidly to make the kite hold still in the air ? ... I even tried the turn handles like the door knob turning ... nothing happens or maybe I am not doing right ...

    I can fly my kite just fine like I do with power kite ... of course, I practice it seriously to move up the level/skill experience ... 2 days ago, I only practice hovering and center spin 360 then stop immediately 8 feet above the ground at 15 mph wind ... I believe I did very good on that, but not very consistence (that's one that I broke the vertical, slammed into the ground spinning) ... funny thing is that ... the way I move my hands, arms and upper body in a karate kata/form movement, then returns back to starting position ... LOL ... I did broke some sweat on one trick for like an hour :)

    I saw most John Barresi's tutorial videos have picture (side view human)-in-picture (kite view) that I can watch his hands ... in my opinion ... I would like to see 2 more pictures in picture ... top view human and in front view ... because I can not tell which way is he pulling or turning the handles, because it looks the same on one side view ... if the handles are 3 feet long ... I will see the different movement easier ... LOL

    this is a great video, but how much wind is that ? Especially at the amusement park ... and I agreed with one of the comment said that " I feel however that frame has more to do with it than anything and how the kite cups the wind. "

    A very deep cup ... is this because using the indoor or extremely flexible unbreakable rods ?

    Thanks for all those replies !!!

    Chad

  16. Leading Edge and Down Spars

    in Adjustments and Modifications

    Posted

    I was reading about these spars/rods @ http://www.revkites.com/kite-product/revolution-spars-rods

    4-Wrap Spars

    Spars-4-Wrap-500x40.jpg4-wrap rods are the heaviest and strongest of the basic rods. They have similar stiffness to the 2-wrap and 3-wrap rods, and should be used in high winds.

    4-wrap rods are identified by their label with either 4 feathers or the words “Revolution Equipped” with an internal diameter of 1/4 inch.

    SLE (Super Leading Edge) Spars

    Spars-SLE-500x40.jpgThe Super Leading Edge (SLE) is a large rod with a 1/2 inch internal diameter. These rods are the largest, heaviest, strongest, and stiffest of any rods for the Revolution kite. These rods are only used in the leading edge of the kite and are produced in both 3 and 4 wrap variants.

    SLE rods are identified by their significantly larger diameter.

    since I have old golf clubs ... why can I trim it to fit the down spars to replace ?
    have you ever try something else to replace the spars/rod ?

    have you ever make your own handles with thumb grooves in it for depends on how much wind is blowing because it varying so much ? (inland wind, unlikely like an ocean uni-direction/consistence mph)

    I noticed that my end cap's rubber is so elastic ... so I tightened it up ... B-Series flies better and stiffer that is not so bouncing.

    I have searched "thought, idea, specific words" on both revkites and kitelife forums ... nearly every posts are unrelated to the topic or choice of words

    So, that is why I decided to ask away in here and hopefully give me some direct links to creative ideas or alternative items.

    I kinda wish all those videos contains "wind speed, spars/rods type, etc etc full details" ... not just a video flying itself ... because it makes me wonder ... how much wind is that ? ... Are those wind comes and go alot ? ... how long are those strings ? ... etc etc

    I am thinking about to make my own lines 200ft with 550 paracord ends sewed

    Yes, I do have a lot to learn and also I learned that shorter handles slows down the tricks ...

    I really appreciate if you provide any insights to make me to become a "better" excellent flier ... yes, one trick a day ... my 2 hours practice on "hovering 360 spin and stop in both left and right direction ... I realize that it has not much to do with wrist rotation flying, like I do with my oZone power kite ... it's involving more arms and body rotation as well ...

    Yes, I am hard of hearing and kinda disappointed that not all video have "true" closed captions, so basically I just slowed down the speed by 1/2 or slower and watch those movement very carefully ...

    one thing that baffling me alot is that John is doing "shaking everywhere" (no offense) to tame his kite so still ... his demo video does not help me much because I need to see in front of him or behind him viewing to find out which way is he moving those handles ... I noticed that he is not doing "north/south" rotation but rather doing "west and east" rotation like turning a door knob.

    Wow ... sorry ... so long ... I did read and watch a whole lot of vidoes/forums ... I guess, I just put it all together into one topic ... Sorry.

    Thanks,

    Chad

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