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  1. No, he was travelling with wife, dogs, and car in tow, so no time. Sounds like he has a good group up in Canada to fly with though.
  2. I met with Ron yesterday, and took this off of his hands. He was a pleasure to deal with, and this was probably the quickest deal that I have done before. I think that this was probably one of the earlier kites. It actually included Rev handles, rather than the symmetrical ones that I am used to. I thought at first this was a mistake, but the manual actually specifies Rev1 handles. Too bad that I am moving this weekend and won't have time to fly it.
  3. PM sent I'm thinking that I probably have a set of Rev Handles that I could throw in, too.
  4. Pretty Cool. I'll bet that he bought it during the Washington State International Kite Festival. That one looks like the pre-HQ Six panel version. Are the handles wood or bent carbon-fiber spars? I'll be honest, while both are fun to fly, the Deca has a zen quality to it that the rev just doesn't have. Now I am just throwing out an opinion, but I would ditch buying a rev, and just start flying what you have. The initial setup is tricky, but after you have done it a few times and learn how to put it away and set it up, you can do it just as quickly as a rev. They pack up pretty small
  5. I always have interest in Decas. Let me know if you want to get rid of it. When was it purchased, and what was the original price?
  6. Here is an old shot of some of my quadlines for a size comparison. In front, in white/black/pink is a Synergy Deca15 Pink/blue is a Rev2 Blue/white/black/red is a Rev Backtracker Black/red on the left is a Rev Shockwave Red/Black/White on the right is a Rev 1.5 Not pictured is a Rev1, which is larger than all of those.
  7. Come on down to Seattle, and I will help you set up your Rev. And I will take that terrible Synergy off of your hands In all seriousness, the Deca is a great quad, but it isn't a Rev. I've let a number of new flyers try the Deca, and they all pick it up a little faster than a Rev. They really haven't been made for a while, so a lot of people don't even know about them. The Decas can be very confusing to set up, especially if the spars have been twisted into the support lines in a confusing way. Revs are super easy to set up. Come on down to Seattle, and I will show you how to set up
  8. Well, clearly I should stop making assumptions. The last set of handles that I bought weren't just bent rods with handle foam and end caps. Not sure that I would pay $57 for those shown on the website and they aren't even finished. Of course if you are new, and don't have any handles, well, not much choice there. They are even more challenging with no handles.
  9. I was thinking that an experienced dual line flyer trying out quads would have much more trouble with the new hand motions than to worry about what is essentially fine tuning. With a new kite, well I am assuming that it is new, flying with the factory setting should be fine to get the basics down. I was just trying to say that he could start out without leaders, and then add them later.
  10. Not sure why there are 5 posts on this, but every forum software is different. I really wouldn't bother with leaders until you have some basics down. Take a look at some of the pinned posts. Check out this one Much more important to make sure all four lines are the same length, and they will stretch if they are new. CHECK THIS FIRST. I bought a brand new HQ Mojo, and one line was 15 inches different than the others.
  11. Don't forget about looking at used kites, or asking if someone wants to sell some beginner kites. There can be issues with used kites, but I've bought quite a few with no issues. I acquired a Benson Outerspace for $85 last month, so deals do exist. I've found a few more this last month from estate sales. Once I go though all of mine, I may have one that I could sell to you, although most of the ones in this last batch are really old school (early 90's). I'll let you know. Any kite clubs in your area? I've been able to fly a lot of different type of kites at gatherings. I would
  12. I bought a bunch of kites off of OfferUp. The guy wouldn't really let me take a look at them, he just wanted them gone, so most of them are a mystery to me. Most were big single line kites. I posted some pictures of last weekend at Whidbey Island on GWTW, so check them out. As a teaser, the last kite that we pulled out wasn't a single line, and one corner was signed.
  13. I am not that familiar with Oregon. For something new, my family rented a cabin in Fort Stevens State Park over New Years. We enjoyed it. The cost was minimal, but this was during the winter. We were walking distance (1 mile) from the beach. My kids (19 - 13) spent a fair amount of time jumping off of the dunes and exploring the fort. However, they enjoy that kind of thing over Disneyland type attractions. It was dead still most of the time that we were there, so I didn't bother to fly anything. I can sit on a beach and watch the waves for hours, I know that not everyone is like that.
  14. I would say that Marc was going for "artistic" handles. They are similar to frame on the deca, in that their were pultruded carbon rods that were kept under tension by the bridle line that you see. It has been a while since I looked at one. The foam handle keeps everything together. I flew a Deca 15 in heavier wind, and it was uncomfortable because as the kite pulls more, you can feel it in your hand. I believe that they were really made for flying kites indoors and allowed you to adjust how much throw you had. You could use them has a winder, too. They were no different than a stra
  15. The Deca that I had, included the standard handles, and the X handles. Not sure that is the actual name of them, but that at least one person on the web is calling them that. Here is a link to what they look like. Symmetrical, but you could change the throw pretty easily. The handles were pretty cool looking, but I remember that they were a pain to store. With all of those swagged on blocks they caught on everything. Lines, bags, sweaters, shirts, etc. Maybe I just don't know how to use quad handles.
  16. I didn't say that I didn't think that a kite is an airfoil. Sorry I wasn't clear enough.
  17. Thanks for your description, I can picture what you are saying now. I don't think that I would have called it belly, but I don't have any other better term for it. I'm not entirely convinced that the belly adds lift. While I understand what you say about power, from a modeling standpoint, I am not sure of how "power" is defined (I am not asking you to define it, either) and how it relates to belly. A more flexible frame would typically be lighter too. And I am sure that windspeed plays a very important part, too.
  18. So to give some of my background, I spent fifteen years as a rocket scientist :). I did navigation and simulation. I often had to deal with aerodynamicists, so I understand a bit about the field, but not everything. I did ask them about aero models for stunt kites, and basically none exist. I am sure that someone, somewhere has studied it, but the guys that I asked weren't aware of any. Of course, they were more interested in airplanes and missiles and rockets. Back to the point. I highly, disagree with you assertion that the same principles apply to kites. That is simply just too
  19. Would you elaborate on point #1? What do you mean "forms a pocket for the wind between them"? If your background is sailing, I agree with the original poster that the spars in front make more sense. However, the Rev was basically designed as a flat kite, so I agree that spars basically are there to hold the sail flat. On point number 4, the question of "belly" really confuses me. I got my first rev in 95 or 96. I don't remember anyone talking about belly, even up in the early 2000's. I got out of kiting for quite a while, and now it seems like all the talk is about frames. Is there
  20. #1 - Foil is a very generic term. What is an "efficient" shape? #2 - The expensive kites paid for the initial development, the cheaper ones are basically copies. #3 - Revs tend to not have many kites adjustments. It seems like with quads, most people adjust the handles and the upper/lower line lengths. A quad like the TC Ultra had quite a few more. Many dual line stunt kites have lots of adjustments. My Utopia has many different adjustments, more than many kites. I could probably configure it over a 100 different ways (I've never bothered to count). #4 - Many Blue Moon Kit
  21. A quick scrolling of the post, and my name jumped out at me. Took me a moment to see that it was misspelled. And then I realized that it had nothing to do with me, just an odd coincidence. Now if I could just understand the migrant nature of the thread ...
  22. Through an odd series of events, I will find myself at Fort Stevens, OR, over the New Year's holiday. I was wondering if it was possible to fly on the parade ground of the fort, or at the beach. Of course, winter weather may be an issue, but I won't worry about that. Thanks, Brett
  23. I don't consider myself in the tech industry, but I have worked at software development in the past. Mostly on dangerous flying objects, but now I work on trucks.
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