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  1. This is universally true, no shame in that. As you grow into the hobby, you can start saving money until the budget grows into it. Some people also build their own, choosing to save a lot of money in exchange for time, sweat, blood, and tears. Line sets cost about half as much but require buying in bulk up front; yards of kite fabric cost have some waste as you cut around, but then you've got people like @riffclown who make impressive patchwork kites from hundreds of tiny scraps of fabric. Assuming you stick with the sport, you'll have one, then another, then another, then you'
  2. frob

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    That's the normal scenario, beaches are only a small part of the world. Most of us live with wildly variable wind. Stealing Paul's normal quote, there is really no such thing as bad weather, only a poorly equipped kite flier. Want to fly in dead calm air or indoors? There are kites for that. Want to fly in a gale, or in hurricane force winds? There are kites for that. You certainly can choose to fly a kite near the upper end of it's rated speed. Even if the spars don't break (they can be replaced), the sail fabric stretches and has a risk of tearing. All sail fabric stretches out ov
  3. From the specs it looks like it ships with 90# 80ft lines, which are quite common. (Or 40kp 25m if you prefer.) Eventually you will get a large collection of both line lengths and strengths, but that is a good set to start with. Think about what that means, pulling 90 pounds on each arm maximum. For most people that kind of pull ranges from uncomfortable to stronger than them. A few kites recommend 150# for strong winds, and power kites often use 300# or stronger, but at that point you're looking either for man lifting with body tethers or for anchored flight, and not for cas
  4. Sounds about right from Rev. AWOC probably sent the custom order immediately to Rev, and then the factory sent it directly to you weeks later after it was built to order. Depending on the custom colors it may be difficult to sell to anyone else. I have had only positive experiences with AWOC. They closed the physical store years ago and have a high volume of online business.
  5. Might be either. When balanced to neutral flying positions, the lines take effort to move forward or back. It often takes less effort to back up than to move forward. As for control, that takes hours on the line. Inverted practice is not the only way to go. Practice going up then backing down, practice diagonally up and diagonally down, flying to one side then backing across the sky. Pulling too hard can cause the kite to bowtie, flip, or depower. That takes time on the line to learn how it feels, and how to react. Five or twenty hours focused on reverse flight can get you th
  6. Plenty of people experiment with weights. Experience can teach you a lot. Designers have settled on the spine for good reason. If you like destabilizing effects for unpredictable flight, as some freestyle pilots do, you may enjoy it.
  7. Scrolling back, I think we all mentioned that some kites are specifically designed for it. They are usually beginner or intermediate kites. Tricks and precision do better with a stiff frame (which break rather than bend), and tricks especially are often easier with straight edges and nothing to snag on, except yoyo stoppers designed to snag and release. You absolutely could add whiskers that keep the nose off the ground when belly-down. But the same whiskers would be in the way and snag on axels and other tricks. Even curved leading edges make some things more difficult. It's
  8. Apart from kites specifically designed around it, probably no. For examples, see this old thread. JB described some limited options in this old thread but they depend on specific conditions and have a risk of breaking a spar.
  9. That's a great collection of building materials, either for something new or to refurbish something old. Congratulations on the win.
  10. For the center spine there are many options. You can have a pocket the whole length, you can attach it at top and bottom and optionally run your spreader through it, have a velcro-held pocket at the bottom, an elastic loop in a nock, or attach in other ways if you want. Unlike the leading edges which can take a beating, the center spine (hopefully) only needs a sturdy nose connection and tail-point connection to keep the sail tight. For the keel, most advanced kites use a bridle instead of a keel. A keel is permanently sewn in place and isn't adjustable. A simple 3-point bridle can have
  11. I know of places called "Shoreline" in Washington, California, Texas, Michigan, and Florida. There are likely many more. Care to be more specific? /Edit. Just noticed your profile says "Santa Clara, CA". Important detail, there.
  12. Possible? Sure. Prism even has a yo-yo stopper kit for the Quantum. It makes it easier, but isn't strictly required. The kite can handle all the standard tricks. It is somewhat heavier and slower than many trick-centric kites which can make some tricks easier to learn. Slow and weighted means forgiving response times and requiring bigger input, mistakes are recoverable. The bigger question is if YOU can do the tricks.
  13. There are also quad line parafoils ranging from power kites to kiteboard kites.
  14. Call Flying Wings. I ordered several dt15 spars from them just a few weeks ago. Other shops may also have some, obviously, but they seemed to have plenty in stocks. From their receipt: Pacific Quest International LLC. Dba. Flying Wings Kites Toll-Free: 1.800.728.0704 TEL: 408-955.9804
  15. Both kite types work best when lines are equal length, but there's a major difference. Dual line kites can have a line stretch several inches and still fly great. Quad line handles you can adjust the length slightly with leader lines but pilots will often adjust knots when the lines have stretched even a half inch, some people prefer even less difference in the four lines, being as close to equal as possible. Splicing the line, or sewing the loop firmly in place which is sometimes done, are permanent actions that do not let you untie and re-tie as lines naturally stretch with use. Those
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