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  1. Awesome old-tymey stunt kite. It looks like this one may even pre-date standoffs, which really does underline the age of the design. Early 1990s or so? Big time pull in a good wind, a real butt dragger! I have several, or would be all over this. 'Specially at this price. Thanks for posting this, it brings back memories. .
  2. That is a good sign. You are pushing it. Timing develops. Happily, the Jammin' just uses 6mm or so pultruded, relatively cheap and plentiful. (I keep a stash on hand!). .
  3. It’s funny how one takes some things for granted after awhile, and it becomes like riding a bike - you don’t even think of the mechanics after the initial stages (when you are probably thinking too much, if you are like me). So today when I went to fly after reading your post I decided to pay particular attention, and ‘watch’ myself do some snap stalls. Winds were a little on the strong side for some of the kites I had initially hoped to fly, so I pulled out the venerable Dodd Gross French Kiss. It likes a bit o wind. Thinking back, the turning point for me on the snap stall was practicing by taking it to the top of the window, and pointing the nose down, and flying down, to the snap stall. That snapper is a 180 degree change of direction, rather than the 90ish one does with some side to side stalls. An aggressive push with the right hand, to ‘take the wind out of the sail’ as someone described it, then pulling the same hand back somewhat and then pushing with both hands forward to settle the kite. Sometimes coupled with a bit of a walk forward, depending on the wind. One develops a feel on that. So the thought of ‘shaking the wind out of the sail’ is a mental image that helped me. Way back then (late 90s) I was flying a large big sailed kite in moderate winds when I learned it, so it was all kinda slo-mo, which I think also helped. That was an Aerie Air FX, a big 8-footer which was rock solid in precision manoeuvres. Still is It seemed easy on the French Kiss, but not sure I’d be starting on that if I had a choice. So yes, the kite matters, along with the wind. As one gains confidence, after starting the recovery fairly high for a while, you can try doing ever closer to the deck. Along the way, the 90 degree snapper came easier for me. Fun and games. Maybe a tip stab down the line…and...and...and... I agree with mebeatee -- a liberal dose of the 3 Ps is in order. And a lot of fun along the way. (Not sure this adds much other than a slightly different perspective, but there it is.) .
  4. I think the two brass tail weights are intended to be at the bottom end of the spine, under the velcro bit. On some of my kites,(including my Jammin'), the friction of the tunnel at the velcro is enough to hold such weight(s) in place, but other kites have a 'stopper' such as a rubber O-ring, or a glued section of tubing where such friction may not be enough. A strip of electrical tape would do in a pinch. Experiment with trying it also with just one of the brass fittings, and none, to see what you like best for performance. Generally it affects the flippiness or fore-and-aft sensitivity, and thus ability to do certain tricks that require different capabilities that way. For instance, it makes doing Jacobs Ladders and Flapjacks easier to have the weights in, but at the cost of some stability perhaps. All quite kite, wind, and flyer dependent, and preferences may be subjective to the individual. Hth. .
  5. My Sixth Sense STD at noon today - hope the pic works. This was a good day for it, with winds out of the south at the local soccer field, a good direction to maximise smoothness of the wind in that location. Variable, but around 12-14 kph (8mph-ish) and just about perrrfect for me. I was prepared for lower winds as well, with some ULs along in the bag (including the matching Sixth Sense UL). Delightful!
  6. Very peaceful flight, mebeatee. Delightful. Great setting. Nice flying, too. What was the wind do you think? Lines? S'a big kite. (I had to look up ‘aleatora’ — found it means ‘random’ in Esperanto...? Interesting.) .
  7. Wow! That was an exhilarating watch from the comfort of my couch. Well done. (I had to look up and refresh my memory about Nordic skates. I guess it might be a little trickier on my old hockey skates, eh? 😉 ) .
  8. Have to agree - $400 US dollars is an Outstanding budget. Higher end sport kite brand new, or maybe a couple of decent used ones. If the latter, maybe a Std and an SUL or UL to broaden enjoyable wind range. Think that moving up in size to a 7-8 footer will do wonders for performance and enjoyment. The smaller ones are quick little bombs, but larger kites -- ooo la-la. A fun mission for OP in any event! .
  9. Price: may depend where you are, but a quick look for me here in Canada shows a sale price of $199 CDN at one vendor I found, for comparison. (You do refer to Canadian dollars in your post). Age: As long as it is a brand new kite, unflown and stored properly I would not be concerned about the design age if it goes back as far as you mention. While not everyone would agree, I think dual line sport kites have not changed THAT much in the intervening time. Many of my kites are as old or older and fly with the best, and newest, today. Again, just my experience. Have fun! .
  10. Totally understand on the price thing. Good idea to know your budget and stay within. (Not always successful that way myself 😉) The Silver Fox UL is a good kite, particularly if it is the latest version tweaked by Lam Hoac, but there is the cost as you say. Not familiar with the other kites you mention. Sounds like you like the looks of the Insync, and it likely will bring some smiles I should think. I have been known to remove (or leave off) the upper spreader to get a bit better lower wind performance on kites, so that may help. I forget offhand whether there are adjustment knots on the upper part of the bridle near the nose but there are options for that as well to tune for the wind. (edit: just checked -- there are knots, so the nose of the Insync can be 'pulled in' or adjusted for lower wind conditions.). Hope that helps. .
  11. Welcome to the forum! I have the Insync. A solid kite, of typical Flying Wings build quality -- good, but not outstanding (to me). From my notes, mine is 12.3 ounces (351 grams) on the scales, so a little on the heavier side of kites of that size imo. The frame sports 6mm pultruded carbon leading edges, which make them relatively easy and cheap(er) to repair. Stiffness comes from the rather nice DT18 wrapped carbon lower spreaders (the specs you list show the slightly lighter DT15, I note). The nylon sail allows it to be a little cheaper to make, perhaps at a slight cost of weight and other performance compared to an icarex sail. I would say that this is a good intermediate kite, somewhat limited in range of tricks but quite capable. Very precise, however. So -- nice, square corners and steady turns, but perfectly capable of a nice axel. It calls for larger arm movements than some kites -- not a wrist-flicking kite, if that makes a difference to your flying style. Fairly solid, approaching heavy, on the lines. I would not call it a low wind kite, but that depends on your local conditions. Features: It has a brass weight in the spine, and an adjustable leech line in the trailing edge in addition to the two standoff setups shown in the pics you posted. Two sets of 4 standoffs, which can be set up in either ‘trick’ or ‘precision’ modes. The included lines at 150# are a little heavy for light wind work perhaps. I tend to use 90#-ish, personal preference in the winds I prefer (10-15kph max). If the price is good, go for it -- particularly if there are no other alternatives! .
  12. Very cool. Lot of deltas and rokkakus, diamonds and eddys and the odd cody. What passed for stunt kites back then? Or did they even exist in competition yet? Inflatables? I’m thinking that a panoramic shot was a feat of technical genius back then perhaps 😉 (I looked at your pic by opening it in a new page and zooming it out -- fun shot but it is maybe a bit fuzzy that way.) .
  13. Wow. Terrific possibility for someone who wants to set up an instant kite making studio (or supplement their own). Not a sewer myself, but certainly have heard of Bainbridge as a sail fabric maker/supplier. I assume ripstop nylon? Any idea of approximate yardage of cloth? May help someone assess. As a side note, pultruded .2200 is in short supply in my experience so nice to see reference to those in there. Amongst all those other goodies. .
  14. Wow. A lot to unpack! Here’s a preliminary go on your inquiry on Flying Wings Silver Foxes (sometimes ‘SF’ here for short) and the Acrobatx. I am familiar in varying degree with all of the kites you refer to, and here are my brief impressions: The Flying Wings Silver Fox 2.3 and 2.5 are similar. As one might expect, the numbers in the names denote wingspan (roughly, in metres). They are both generally fairly largish in feel in flight, and require larg(er) hand/arm movements. Large(r) presence in sky. Very capable. Older design approaching 15 years or so. The UL versions have pretty much the same sails as the standard versions, with a somewhat lighter frame. In my experience they have only slightly lower bottom ends, compared to, say, Benson or Jest of Eve models in comparing STD and UL versions. The 2.3 Pro: a later refinement of the 2.3 in weight, construction, sail and bridle. Still available from a few retailers. Have, and like, the STD; lusting after the UL The 2.2 is a variant (approximately 2018) incorporating Lam Hoac’s further tweaks incl layout, shape, bridle etc, and features such as ‘claws’ on the LE for YoYo manoeuvres. I find the 2.2 UL a more sleek machine flight-wise in comparison to its predecessor. Unfortunately, I am not familiar with the 2.2 STD but I would expect similar handling but in higher wind. As in other kites, some tricks may be easier (or at least require slightly different inputs) in one version over another due to weight distribution, etc. Google the review. Acrobatx: also same era as the early SFs but a little smaller, at closer to 7 feet. Heavier build, using more economical materials, with pultruded carbon frame and a nylon sail. No leech line so can be noisy (unlike the SFs, which can be adjusted for this). Flight-wise, quite manoeuvrable. Trick capable but a bit faster than all the SFs generally, in my experience. Not as refined. Smaller hand movements required. Comparatively less pull unless windy and depending on bridle settings. Good bang for buck, especially at sale prices I have seen. Good upgrade from Quantum trick-wise imo. See the review in KiteLife in approx 2006. The UL version has a much lighter frame and sail, and more of a finesse feel, but lighter handling as many ULs are. It is more $$ due to materials etc. Carbon-wrapped tapered spars in the frame. Looks and appearance in all these including colours: being subjective, I can’t comment. Lines: I have several sets but generally use a set of 50# x 75 or 85’ on the ULs, or sometimes 90# in stronger end of the wind range. For STD kites I usually use 90#, sometimes 120# or 150# in more wind. In summary, all of these are fine kites in their own way. TBH, to varying degrees, they might all be considered an upgrade over the Quantum, which is a fine but basic kite in my opinion. (I can’t help but think that more time with your E3 is in your future, as it, too, is quite a capable kite.) While I see and appreciate the place the Quantum fills, comparatively it feels rather … clumsy to me. If that’s not too strong a word. (I still like mine though!) I hope the above is of some assistance. Any Qs, ask away. I am confident that there will be other views on this but this is my perspective. (Just a part-time recreational flyer with too many kites, if that is even possible.)
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