Cot51stState
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I can't speak specifically to the VTD Polo, but I think I understand what you're speaking to. Do you fly with a lot of brake? I've recently been using the same heavy brake tuning indoors and am really liking it. The kite seems to have more 'presence', can climb halfway to the ceiling in an inverted launch, and does 360s in reverse easier than forward. Overall it seems more responsive and controllable.
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When I was communicating with Ocean Shores Kites they recommend 150lb for the 26 foot octopus and said they usually flew theirs at 75-100'. I also ended up with a 500' spool of line, but only put half of it on a hoop winder. The kite is for my wife's amusement, but I'll end up being the one who has to pack it up and I didn't want to have to deal with but so much line 🤣.
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I've seen where OSK had added heat shrink tubing to the middle of the bungee and thought it a good idea. None of my quads have that and the bungee always fails in the middle. I've been able to find bungee locally and keep a couple of yards of it in my repair kit. For a frequently flow (or in my case, abused) kite, bungee becomes a consumable item.
**this topic of bungee is not specific to quad kiting, but you're right, you may get more response if it were posted there. **
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Fraying on the bungee cord is common. I'm accustom to it occurring where the cord enters/exits the end cap. When you have your vertical rods installed, is there any tension on the bungee cord?
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4 minutes ago, Cot51stState said:
Actually yesterday, but I pulled out the 12' Banhee Kites Scimitar with an 80' tube tail. There's a night fly on Jockey's Ridge, NC this Saturday and I was looking for something that I could illuminate. I was working with 5-7mph wind, and am definately going to need more than that once lights and power pack are installed. It was a good time nonetheless... I'd forgotten what all that kite can do in a lighter wind with a little finesse.
10', not 12'... I'm always overestimating my length 🤭
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Actually yesterday, but I pulled out the 12' Banhee Kites Scimitar with an 80' tube tail. There's a night fly on Jockey's Ridge, NC this Saturday and I was looking for something that I could illuminate. I was working with 5-7mph wind, and am definately going to need more than that once lights and power pack are installed. It was a good time nonetheless... I'd forgotten what all that kite can do in a lighter wind with a little finesse.
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I've used PowerPro Super 8 Slick 50# with good result. It's a small diameter, 8 strand, coated, braided line. Mind you, these have been for 13'-40' max line sets and generally in less than 7 mph winds. But at $35 for 300 yards, it's enabled me to experiment with a variety of line lengths and not feel too bad when I get lazy and drag them across concrete/asphalt. This purchase was made over 3 years ago and I just used the last of it within the past month for a 25' line set.
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Congrats @Mike Klaiber 🤙🤙
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@Exult I started following this post in hopes to assist (since I was in the same spot as @matthew_birkett just a couple of years ago). I'm continuing to follow in order to soak up all this great information you are dispensing. Thank you for all your contributions. 🤙🤙
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56 minutes ago, matthew_birkett said:
cool guys thank you there is some great info there!
@Cot51stStatei never really thought about doing things slower but ill give it a go next time im out (beach day on Saturday woop woop).
It's the difference between completing a maneuver and controlling the maneuver. You start recognizing surge and oversteer, and playing with the tuning on your handles to eliminate it. I think @John Barresicalls it "flying with intent".
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Storms were forecast and here's John making it rain 😁. Congrats to the winners!
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@Exult has a lot of good info. Something I've been working on is speed. Those movements you can blast through in a successive blur, can you do them in a slow deliberate manner? Can you stop at any point in the wind window at any attitude and hold it for a beat or four? To me it seems 'doing nothing effectively' can be the hardest skill to refine. I think @Paul LaMasters first made me consider its importance in a post about 'holding your hover'.
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11 hours ago, riffclown said:
Kite # 92 in final stages..
Looks like it should be fully flight tested in time for the Wright Kite Festival 🤔. See you there 👍
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My daughter picked up some bungee cord from a local craft store. The diameter was a little larger than I needed, but it fit through the holes and kept tension on the sail once installed. A lot of the materials in a kite were originally produced for something else (i.e. arrow nocks), so there's no reason to limit yourself on where to acquire spares. It's not like you're voiding the warranty 😉.
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Is there an opening in the sleeve that would allow you to remove that rod? Others probably have better techniques on how to fix the hole, but an end cap on that rod would go a long way in preventing it recurring (or developing in the first place).
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13 hours ago, riffclown said:
Bring them to the Rogallo.. I'll help you any way i can..
I really appreciate the offer. Unfortunately family life will not allow me to attend Rogallo... hopefully I can make a day at the Wright Kite Festival.
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3 hours ago, Bunduki Vlieger said:
Wow! Then two of Yves' quads made their way across the pond. Congratulations!
There are enough experienced stack pilots here (such as @riffclown ) who can surely help you with that...It took a while to acquire the kites from Yves. Not due to any delay on his end, but because I though my daughter was going to arrange for them to be made as a gift for me. She thought I was to arrange for them to be made and then she was going to wrap them 🤷. A year, a Christmas, and a birthday later I have finally received them both 😂.
I was actually reading through a @riffclown@riffclown thread (the one when he was working on stack catch/throws) when I was thinking about link line length. The line set I was flying on was around 40 feet, so I probably should give it a shot in a more open field with longer lines and see how they perform.
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I finally got to see the Yves Ganne Revs 189 and 190 in the air at the same time. Linking them seemed the best option since I don't know of any other fliers in the area and I'm not ready to attempt flying two quads at the same time 🤣. It's my first attempt at linking quads and, for the most part, the trailing kite tracked rather nicely. Reverse flight was rather elusive, though. I'm not experienced enough to know if that's just the nature of linked quads, the light and variable winds weren't sufficient, or possibly my link lines are too short? 🤷
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On 3/8/2022 at 7:58 PM, makatakam said:
That's a cruel April Fool's joke to play on us. 🙃
That was my first reaction as well. But, considering the source, I thought it highly unlikely that this was a joke. Thanks again to @Yoyoing_p for paying it forward. 🤙🤙
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9 hours ago, Brad Morris said:
I have seen occassional mentions of contests for items but I dont understand how to get my name submitted. When I follow the link it seems like it is only for anyone that is signing up. I am already a member. Am I missing something?
There are KiteLife subscriptions available. The money goes to support the site/site content. The giveaways are but one benefit of being a subscriber 👍.
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I stumbled across that familiar plastic tube in a toy store at an outlet mall in Myrtle Beach, SC around '87-88. Went in the store shopping for my 2yo daughter and ended up buying them on impulse not having any idea what a stunt kite was. Rick Kligman discovered me set up on the beach near his store and gave me the back story on the kite and why the company was no longer in business. The fact that I was using a six pack of Rainbows to learn how to fly must have left an impression since he gave me a part time job flying for the shop. I give the credit to Steve Edeiken though, because those kites came with incredibly detailed directions and I studied them religiously.
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Once I win, can you wait until Wednesday to ship? I'll be on vacation next week and, with my luck, porch pirates would get it 😁
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13 hours ago, Michael Marmaras said:
No one likes to spend $ on spars that will break under normal stress
Buy sky shark cxl at kites and fun things 3.50. 2.50 @ 12 marmarasmichael@gmail.com
I wouldn't catagorize much of what I do while flying as "normal". You're new, so I won't take offense 😁. And yes, the CXL are a fine rod for what I do. The P2X also seem like they'll work well in my newly acquired quad sails.
I started flying when the kites were called stunt kites. I'm neither an artist nor a competitor. 30 plus years ago I discovered the more serious I became with my flying, the less I enjoyed it. So, up until a couple of years ago, I just didn't fly any more. It was with an eye towards retirement that I took flying back up again. Now I will fly what I want, when I want, and (generally) where I want... all while not taking myself very seriously. No one else should take me 'very seriously' either.
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7 hours ago, Michael Marmaras said:
Breakage usually is around ferrule point so use internal tight fitting and external ferrules.
I frequently fly in confined "urban" settings. The breakage was occuring when I flew into immovable objects (brick walls, columns, concrete stairs). Thankfully my control has improved. My 3Wind SUL still has its original frame and sail. Bungee, end caps, and bridles seem to be more consumable type items 🤭.
LPG 60x90# quad set by Kite Forge (February 5th, 2024)
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Nice! Two indoor and an urban set of lines for the making 😉