Are you connectign two of the lines together? and then wrapping the two pairs? also i know a few people that prefer having two seperate winders so there is no hassle. I too an fairly new to quads but i don't have much problem wrapping up my lines and takign them out. I conect the brake and other line for the left side and then do the same for the right. I do it at both ends, one end with the brake looped on and the other with the brake being looped onto. anyway once i do that then i wrap it up as if it were a dual line. When i get to unwrapping them i unwrap them like normal with one end staked. Once i'm done i just pull each pair away from each other to seperate the two pairs and soemtime needs to do the same to the staked end. I then usualy end up splitting the pairs and connectign them, but u cna check to see if there is soem little snag on twisted lines, it's only happened to me once so far. hope i was clear enough to be a help