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I don't know the others but Detox (and all our products) are available WORLDWIDE with FREE SHIPPING, that is, price is final shipped to you wherever you live in the world so shipping cost shouldn't be an isue with us. As for tax, Poland is a EU member so we are oblied to add it to the price, but if you have a valid VAT company number you can have tax expemption (maybe a friend or relative ...) so tax shouldn't be a problem either ... And that is completelly legal. All you have to do is introduce the VAT during check-out and our site is ready to connect with the EU VAT database and make any adjusments to the price, easy as that. Then maybe you find the price to high even with all that, we understand that but if you look at the final prices we have taken them down quite a bit from las model and believe me, there is a lot of hand work (no east mass factory but handcraft work) involved on making those kites to the level of excellence they have. Hope that helps, Pedro Los Hermanos

I fully understand, ecconomy is difficult. But don't let the windrange defeat you, no kite covers all windrange and as I said before, Detox is a toolbox for competitive kitefliers, that means that we offer plenty of options to fine tune the kite to the wind when maximum perfromance is needed. It is impossible to do with just one or two versions, we will actually be offering 6 versions by the end of the year. Does that mean that you need all? sure not, that means that you have plenty of choices to adjust your set to your needs. And then, price is always relative. Quality materials and quality whorkmanship are expensive but then you get a kite that will last you the rest of your life as long as you care for it ... with cheap quality you have to change after one or two seasons ... in the long run you end up saving (I am not talking just about our kites but all quality manufacturers like Buzz and some others that still make their kites by themselves one by one and with love and passion...) In the words of Stephen Versteegh: " you can skip kites, STD and Vented will cover also the the wind from 1.5 -5 bft, only when you want to push performance than you need more kites. Than you want the perfect kite for every wind. " Hope to have clarified a bit Pedro Los Hermanos 4line Kites

I can only talk about the Detox that we are proud to manufacture. Actually it is difficult to find the similarities with a traditional quad line kite, it is definitely not a copy of anything made before, an evolution seems more apropriate (just like all stunt kites are an evolution of the Peter Powel kite ...). In the Detox, the size is different, the shape is different, the LE, the fittings, the bridle, the reinforcements, the materials, the 3D shape of the sail, the knotless construction, the magnets, the interchangeable lead lines ... all in the kite is thought in order to make Detox a competition toolbox for the competitive kite flier. In flight it is really aggressive without loosing any precission, ultra fast turning, perfect straights, really sharp corners, great trickability, axels, flic-flacs ... just seen someone making axel takoff to continous axels to axel cascade with it this weekend ... oh my. It is made to be beaten to death and to take any abuse the competitors put on it. Covers the full wind range with STD, semi, vented and extra by now and the Super ultra light and tempest versions coming later this year. An always evolving project we like to think of it as the ultimate tool for performant quadline fliers and we couldn't be happier with the result and the reactions from the owners. It is the current Euro and UK champion ... looks like it works ;O) All that said with maximum respect to other creators, there are so many fantastic kites out there, we just can speak of our own creation. If you want bigger explanations you can have a look at our newly released site (it is in the list) Thanks for reading!