ok after almost a month of daily flying for a good 2 hours a day ive summed up a list of moves im having problems with and with no one in orlando to fly with, this board is the next best thing. 1. in the milking the breeze article pt 2. theres a move for gaining ground loss. i'm suppose to fly to the top of the window and pull the bottom lines or something so it floats away from me, right? so i fly to the top of the window and put the handles in one hand and pull the inside of the bottom lines downward with my free hand. i dont think this is the way im suppose to do this cause it basically stalls and crashes to the ground. 2. axel. ill hover to the right and let the bottom wing out as much as possible to flatten out the kite, which really doesnt happen. i then pull in the same hand at an angle for the bottom wing. i pretty much just get the kite to do a a full spin, nothing special. i dont think im getting the axel effect. 3. flic-flac. i fly the kite to the top of the window and put the handles in one hand and pull the insides of the bottom line with my free hand. and the kite should be almost wrapped in the lines upside down, right? 4. lastly the flat spin. ill hover right again and let the bottom wing out as much as possible. i still dont have that "flattening" look im reading in the moves on the "how to" to pull this off. i then just pull my left hand, which is on top, down across my body to the left. i dont understand what flicking motion is suppose to mean, but basically the kite returns to an upright position so it just looks like i did a 90* turn. those are the moves ive been having problems with. any help is GREATLY appreciated. thanks.