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Looking at that video, that's exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for. And you're right. Looks like I'd have to do an international order to get it. (oops, I was wrong. Into the wind has it) Thanks Hadge! I'll certainly look into it. Anybody have any other suggestions?

Backstory: I've been flying kites for quite a while, and I have some experience, but I don't really have much knowledge about them. I grew up with a big front yard and my dad had a stack of about 6 diamond 2-line kites. I learned on those. Years later, he got a delta stunt kite. It was a lot of fun, but we broke it. Multiple times. Then he got his quad line, which was amazing fun. I'm still not great at it, though :-/ Eventually I moved out to LA on the beach (lucky me) and got my own frameless quad line (Peter Lynn Hornet 2.0), and my eyes were opened. I realized how much I didn't like the idea of frames. The airfoil just seems so much more elegant to me. But alas, I am missing something. The kite I got is fun: the pull is great and it handles just like it's supposed to but compared to my dad's quad, it's slow and flies like a 2 line that just happens to have breaks. So my question: I'm looking for a faster, frameless quad line kite. Something that flies more like a framed kite than a power kite. Does something like that exist? Can anybody suggest something like that for me? Edit: I understand that the only true way to get "Something that flies more like a framed kite than a power kite." is to just go ahead and get a framed one. That's not what I want. Thanks for the help!