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  1. View Advert Triggerfish - Premier Kites swimming fish Looking to purchase a Triggerfish type swimming fish by Premier Kites. Advertiser jedijon Date 10/04/2021 Price Category Kites (Single Line) Brand Premier Kites Model  
  2. Whenever there's a request to recommend trick kites to newer or less skilled pilots, Silver Fox is always on the list. I'm in that category--I mostly fly around in circles and any time I'm doing slack line moves they're just random inputs. My current sources of comparison are Prism Quantum, Jazz, E3, and 4D. Quantum is about what I like the best, stays firm on the lines whenever it flies but doesn't launch in light winds. The E3 is a bit slow in flight, and the 4D won't launch in no wind but does OK in light breezes...but until the wind picks up a bit the oversteer on inputs is pretty extreme. I'd just grab a Silver Fox UL and see for myself--as I typically have light and inconsistent winds most of the time. But. I don't gel with the sail coloration. There was a 2.3 pro version. It seems to be Out of Print. I like the look of that. There's a 2.3 and a 2.5 version--the 2.5 has the two distinct shapes on each wing and I like this well enough but not enormously. There's a 2.2 version that seems to be an entirely new entry by a different designer and I like the look of this a lot but it's much more expensive. I'd like to know how these compare. How do they differ, and how did they come to be? What's the deal with the multiple iterations. Then there's the Acrobatx and a UL version. I quite like the simple color blocks of the UL, and it's cheaper still than the least expensive Silver Fox version. The Acrobatx itself, not sure. Haven't seen one in person and in some photos either the blue or purple look great or drab--depending. I've never cared for rainbow colored kites--but that's primarily when they're asymmetrical but on this one both winds are mirrored, so I think it would look reasonably vibrant if not too serious. If I were to get an Acrobatx, would it be just like my Quantum? They're in a similar price-point, are we talking different aspect ratio, wider wind range, or any differences to a less experienced pilot? If I were to get a UL version would it feel just like the standard but for lower winds, would it be like my 4D with the oversteer - with the just sort of floating there absent any real feedback in quite light winds? Do I need a much thinner set of lines than stock lines to get the immediate feedback...back? Looks are pretty important. I'm not going to be collecting too many more stunt kites yet so "they all count", if I'm only going to get 2-3 more I'll want some I feel are beautiful, fun to fly and also to try to learn tricking with, and can expand the range of winds I can fly enjoyably in, and hopefully perform really well to justify their price--so if I fly say 1-2 times per month for just a few hours am I going to have a fun time switching between say 3 kites of any quality...or do I need something >$200 to feel like it's really a quality instrument. It's been hard for me to articulate what's "better" about more expensive kites beyond more careful stitching and construction, how do they feel different? Particularly to a beginner?
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    Looking to purchase a Triggerfish type swimming fish by Premier Kites.

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  4. These two models would appear to be commissioned by OSK. Freilein has been making their own Windrider model for years it appears. Can anybody comment on this model? Specifically how it compares to the OSK versions. I'm curious because pricing on importing your own puts it around $160 with handles and lines vs OSK at least $270. They'd appear to be virtually the same with a slightly different color pattern and the new burned hole LE material vs the traditional mesh.
  5. Full sail models of the Freileins are running 180/220 without lines/handles. Those're available bundled for $70, and shipping is ~$15 CONUS for the lot. So I dunno, $300 for the kite doesn't sound like the "half rev prices" I've been reading about in this thread. I'm just eying quads. As in, I don't have one yet. The $200 intro rev seems the best deal. It's interesting that there's no $100 option for those folks who are curious but not ready to plunge and/or just don't wish to drop $300+ to be part of the gang.
  6. Welcome to the forums jedijon, please send me a PM if you have any questions. :)

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