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Practice day six of this.  I can now feel and see a transition.  Here is an edited video this time, five minutes long, with some comments I added for what I suspect at various points. I'll still take comments on those if you see something different.

There is a moment of transition where one of several options tend to happen:

  1. Top side moves in reverse, bottom side stays put. Usually this seems to need more pressure.
  2. Kite doesn't have power to move, slides down or stays stationary. Needs more foot power for pressure.
  3. Kite moves in reverse, but bottom wing reverses rapidly and swings up, turning the kite to face the ground. I have discovered I need to push forward drive hard on the bottom side while pushing reverse on the top side.
  4. Top side moves more rapidly into reverse pulling the kite back to level, or entire top half of wing pulls in toward me. Too much pull on the top side of the wing.
  5. Or, SUCCESS, sail catches the air and moves in reverse.

That moment happens at the apex of a stall.  If it has too much momentum #3 or #4 will happen. If it doesn't have pressure #1 or #2 happens. If I turn too strong or too weak #2, 3, or 4 happens.  If I get all of them right, the center body of the sail inflates and the kite moves powerfully in reverse. 

In today's practice I could frequently, but not always and not reliably, fly in reverse. I can also feel and see the transition point that was invisible to me before.  

I think a few days of feeling the different conditions and gaining a more intuitive / automatic feel for the required motion should bring me to reliably completing the action.

It's a small addition I think, but it was hard to overcome so it feels like a huge success.

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The kite MUST back-up from an inverted position, 

regardless of wing or wind (configuration/conditions) indoors or outside.  "That is the quad-line effect". Show me, simple as that, the better demonstrated the more impressive it shall be.  Control, that is the soul of a quad flyer.

Just keep working on it, I start every pilot upside down, the sooner you are comfortable an inch high/inverted, the sooner you are one of us.

Land/balance on the trash can lid too, (when it's a soda pop can instead, that is the control being displayed that impresses other quad-heads) Then you're ready for team or group flies as well, you "stay in your own lane when driving and are welcomed into our traffic patterns!"

Don't think about the flight actions (did you envision water pouring from the faucet this morning, brushing' teeth?), Nope, just felt it happening unconsiously.  Hold the handles so softly you drop 'em occasionally, think "move two feet and stop", then 2 more.

Control, the music happens on the stops.

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Holding an inverted hover indoors isn't difficult for me, that's about keeping the pace up to hold it aloft.

This has been about making an active transition from forward to reverse indoor.  My next phase indoor will be converting "I can have controlled reverse indoor", to "I can always fly in reverse indoor."

I love the mantra: An amateur practices until they can get it right, a professional practices until they cannot get it wrong. 

Outdoors I'm confident (until I have 2000 spectators, then my brain freaks out), I can do the soda can wingtip landing, and I love flying with teams when I can be with them. My current difficulty is holding a position even when the wind doesn't want to cooperate; at SPI in the group flies I lost some control on one instance after holding an inverted diagonal hover in a ball for an extended time in light wind, and more than once had difficulty moving and staying at the very top of the window in light wind. John's calls were reaching right up to the very top of the window and I had been experimenting with adding even more brake; so even fully pulling back my 15" handles so the line and the handle were basically touching the entire length still couldn't gain and hold the position. As mentioned on the last page, doing it even when the

And as for dropping handles occasionally, I spent about 2 hours at SPI pre-event working with the other Paul on some precision work, and my own sudden tugs were sometimes enough to pull it from my grip. It was a bit embarrassing, but he said not to change the position of the grip since it allows better feel and reaction.  When working with Brett on quad axels, I similarly lost the grip a few times, so I think I'm there with the gentle grip.

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I will again stress this - it all is set up by your footwork. The pressure that makes for successful changes in direction, is all set up by getting your feet and body moving in the correct direction, first! Indoors with no wind to help, everything you do is dependant on you providing the source of power. 

Footwork is key!!!

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Yes, comparing the videos there is far more footwork and motion in this latest than in the first or second clip, and in the comments in the video I can now identify times where even more foot power and foot direction was needed. That's why I put in those big captions.

The difference is now I know. Before I could not see or feel it. 

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Progressing admirably. 👍🏻

Hands are getting closer when you initiate the reverse (good), and the highest brake line "pull" you're doing (inefficient) on some of your reverse initiations is reducing as you find more pressure on the backside of the transition to reverse (good).

Remember, the most pressure is generated by a "square on" sail - any line pulled more than 8" or so than the others causes the sail to shed air and depower, veer even.

Carry on, AMAZING discussion.

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