Ahhhh Yessss! Another day "without wind" produced an "Oak Rev. Box", (for short Rev. flying trips when my PVC Rocket Launcher with "all" my kites isn't necessary). I'm running out of "No Wind" day projects!! :confused!: And don't tell me to go buy a ZEN!! (although, if you notice there is room for 1 more kite in the box--heehee!--is the ZEN the same size as the standard 1.5 B-series when knocked down and rolled up?) Keep It Up! Duane