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Posts posted by Reef Runner
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Here's a write-up, that I posted several years back, concerning this very topic & simple modification....... Same information, as others have already stated, just a bit more detail, and history, on how all this got started, should you be interested......
Good Luck.......
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Making Snag-Proof Handles
OK, you've got the Pros in here now - listen up - these guys know what they are talking about.
As for me, I'm just a tinkerer, with a bit of mechanical knowledge, and the tools to back it up. I really enjoy improving, improvising, and revising, already great ideas, and there are tons of them out there. If only I could fly a Rev, so well.
As for the "Watty Way", my mistake (sorry Watty, but you did make the video), and I suppose that is what I remembered. I do remember that the original idea came from, "Stone in the Shoe Bob", so credit given, where credit is due (sorry Bob). No harm intended, only thanks - Bob, thanks for the idea - Watty, thanks for the video. As they say, a picture is worth, well, a lot. Ok, so now it's the "Stone in the Shoe Bob" method. Either way, thanks guys.
Now, as JB has pointed out, the length issue is probably a personal preference. I'm sure that for the seasoned Pro, the slightest change in length, and/or diameter, is extremely annoying, however, for the novice / newbie, it may not be, quite so critical. I would suppose that whatever feels comfortable to you, would surely suffice. I hope JB will agree with this.
So, as for the dilemma, "Do I cut the handles down to the original length, or do I let the length, fall where it may?", my advice on that would be to fix a set of handles, using the "Stone in the Shoe Bob" method (as illustrated in the "Watty Video"), then take them out for a flight, or three. If the length feels too long, awkward, or unwieldly, then it's simple enough, to go back to the work bench, take them apart, and cut them off at the inner edge, of the original holes, where the rings used to be attached (side of the hole, closest to the grips). After the cut, smooth off the rough edges, ream out the ends, and reassemble everything. This should put you back to within 1/16" to 1/8", of the original length - Voila! No snag handles, original length !!
After all, it's a lot easier to shorten a set of handles, than it is, to lengthen them (now surely that makes sense, doesn't it?)
Just for ease, of you that may be reading this, here is my original post to "Stone in the Shoe Bob", concerning his revision, which originally appeared, over in the Revolution Kites Forum:
Hi Bob,
I was reading about your handle modifications, using the drywall anchors and the screws, which would enable one to rid themselves of those annoying metal rings, on the ends of the handles. A while back, Watty Watson sent me a video that he obviously put together, to help me understand his explanation of this procedure. I thought it worked like a charm. Now, I see, where you have now, gone back and reversed that modification, on the upper ends of your handles, and reattached the metal clips. I believe you said this was due to the additional handle length, which is created, by this particular modification.
Now, I've got a stupid question. If this additional length is a problem, why not just cut off the top end of the handle tubing, maybe .25" to .50", or whatever seems to be right, and put you modification back as it was. I mean, that is such a clean and trouble free modification, and those clips (hog rings) are really a pain. My thoughts would be to cut the tubing, immediately below the holes, where the metal clips were mounted, and then reinsert your anchor and screws, as you had previously done. This should put you back, very close to the original handle length (+/- 1/8"). Surely you've got several sets of handles, just lying around, that you could experiment with. I hope I haven't misunderstood your point, but I think I'm hearing what you were saying correctly. Just my thoughts on the issue.
Also, as for me, I suppose that I'm not quite as tuned in on the Rev, as you may be, and obviously, I haven't been flying long enough, for that small amount of additional length, to be a bother. Maybe one day, I'll get to that point, but for now, I'm just very happy, with your idea. Thanks for sharing it !
Now for my additional two cents - For those of you, who don't want to go to this extreme, of cutting the tubing, and would just like to use the anchor and screw idea, I have modified several sets, with very little trouble, however, if you have access, a few tools, other than a screw driver, it will make this job much easier and neater. WARNING - Do be careful, when removing the rubber covers, from the ends of the handles, because most of the handles that I have seen, have a very sharp and nasty burr, around the holes, where the metal clips were attached. You can see where the holes were drilled in the tube, so beware. Once I carefully removed the metal clips, and the rubber end caps, I took the handles over to the grinding wheel, where I smoothed down the burrs around the clip holes, and then polished the ends of the tube with a rotating brass bristled, wire brush. You could probably accomplish the same effect, with a little elbow work, a flat file, and some emery cloth. Just be careful. In fact, the file is probably all that is really necessary, if you will be very careful, and try not to scar the exposed part of your handles, while filing the burr. A padded vice, would be quite helpful, for holding the handle steady, while you file it smooth. You just need to remove that sharp metal burr around the small holes. I also found it necessary to ream out the ends, of most of the tubing, as there was some kind of hard residue, just inside the end. I don't know what that was, but it definitely needed to be removed. Either way, it just makes for an easier job, once the grinding, polishing, and reaming is done. Then it was just a matter of forcing the plastic anchors (with shoulders), down into the ends of the tubing, and inserting a #10 stainless steel screw, leaving just a small gap under the head of the screws, for the pigtails to be looped around. This can be seen clearly, in Watty's video, which can be found here http://www.vimeo.com/7746634 Also, I'll try to post a couple of pics, of one of my latest modified handles.(see below)- 2
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Congratulations Dave..................fly her well !
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2 minutes ago, John Barresi said:
FYI guys, I'll be traveling / performing in Kuwait on February 17th through the 29th... I should be able to do the drawing while I'm there, but it could be delayed due to time difference and whatever activity schedule they put forth.
Feel free to nudge me though, I always appreciate it!
Well, you could just go ahead and draw NOW
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12 minutes ago, Wayne Dowler said:
WWWAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
Yep..............WWWAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
WWWAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
WWWAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
WWWAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
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Hey Wayne...........I'm lurking ?
I'm surprised at you - accusing me of such !
I'm not lurking. I just got other things going on, and I'm trying to keep in touch with my old buddies ! (even you)
(and I was thinking about giving you my number)
Well - N O T !
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1 hour ago, Wayne Dowler said:
Just one eye?? You know me better than that my friend!!
Yep, you need to keep one eye on Wayne, and one one me, but really, you need to keep them both on him.....
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3 hours ago, Wayne Dowler said:
I don't know Nick, you seem to have turned into a lurker, more than a commenting contributor to the madness!!
Well, somebody needs to keep an eye on you !
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On 1/29/2016 at 1:43 AM, Wayne Dowler said:
I see you are still a subscriber - so YES!!! Unless you want to give your # away!!! LOL!!
Hey, what are you talking about, "I see you are still a subscriber"? Did you think I went somewhere ? I'm still here ! I'm watching you ! Just want to make sure that you are not into anything "underhanded". Got to watch you all the time.
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On 1/27/2016 at 8:08 AM, Reef Runner said:
Got no B2's...........they went to Virginia !
Well, I'm still in........I think !
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Got no B2's...........they went to Virginia !
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Well, I'm in................
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Just got my pins................Looking good there JB !
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2 minutes ago, photomom said:
We have a cat/house sitter who is like a daughter to us.
OK, but we are now watching GB, and hoping ! Love the Pack, unless................well you know !
I know, I know.........off topic for this thread.......sorry
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1 hour ago, photomom said:
Got home and the envelope was waiting on the kitchen table.
Weather was crappy this week in VA, too. Spending time with the grandbabies made it a good week despite the weather.
Likewise, spending time with family, always makes for a good week, despite the weather ! (or the family )
Just curious, my mail does not end up on the kitchen table, while I'm away (?) You must have a "magic genie"....... Happy New Year !
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11 hours ago, photomom said:
I'm hoping ours are there when we get home.
Me too !
OBX has been unfriendly this past week ! Good times, good food & drink, good friends & relatives, BUT, crappy, crappy weather !
Happy New Year to all !
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6 minutes ago, photomom said:
Merry Christmas!!
Hey, could be time, "to adjusts the sails"...........I know, I know, you got stock, and all that. Stay true to your course !
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.......
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10 minutes ago, photomom said:
We shall see.
Yep, I suppose so................Merry Christmas !
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Enjoy your time together................Happy Christmas !
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Not a problem...........Ho, ho, ho !
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20 hours ago, John Barresi said:
The forum auto-loads whatever profile pic I've got on Facebook, it'll change soon enough. lol
Well give us a break.............it's Christmas !
Merry Christmas........BTW
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On 12/23/2015 at 7:09 PM, John Barresi said:
Not yet, but they're stateside.
Not a problem..............BUT............for Christmas, you really need an new avatar !
Try this one for a day or so.......
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On 12/21/2015 at 1:14 PM, John Barresi said:
27 pre-sold!
Tentatively scheduled to arrive at the KiteLife office tomorrow, super quick!
Well, did they make it ?
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28 minutes ago, John Barresi said:
27 pre-sold!
Must be your avatar !
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B-Series STD Package (5/25/16)
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You tell 'em Wayne.............not your first rodeo, eh?