RobB Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Hello... I am looking for advice on a single line payload lifting kite. I currently have a PowerSled 24 and a 7 foot double DC. They work great in a 12+mph wind, but get a little crazy in variable wind. I was wondering which kind of kite would give me the broadest wind range, lifting power, and stability. I think a big Cody would be cool, but I haven't seen much more than a toy commercially available, can't find a serious one. I guess a big FlowForm is an obvious choice, but kind of boring compared to a Cody or DoPeRo. A friend suggested a BIG Delta, but I worry about its stability, especially with a payload. Any advice is welcome... Thanks, ~Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant man Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 you can get a bigger power sled a 32 is a good lifter if you dont want to go to a flowform a cody os another good choise. for a lighter wind i would go with a larger kite that should work for you i hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Moore Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Theoretically my big full cell 120 and 165 sq ft Conyne Deltas can lift 40 and 65 lbs respectively. The payload attached to the line below the brodle point will not effect kite stability unless the weight sets up a yawing motion. Attaching the payload further from the bridle attachment point will reduce the loads effect on kite stability. My 120 sq ft kite flys well in 6 to 25 mph and has endured up to 60 mph winds for several hours without significant loss of stability. Bob Moore Hello...I am looking for advice on a single line payload lifting kite. I currently have a PowerSled 24 and a 7 foot double DC. They work great in a 12+mph wind, but get a little crazy in variable wind. I was wondering which kind of kite would give me the broadest wind range, lifting power, and stability. I think a big Cody would be cool, but I haven't seen much more than a toy commercially available, can't find a serious one. I guess a big FlowForm is an obvious choice, but kind of boring compared to a Cody or DoPeRo. A friend suggested a BIG Delta, but I worry about its stability, especially with a payload. Any advice is welcome... Thanks, ~Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobB Posted August 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Theoretically my big full cell 120 and 165 sq ft Conyne Deltas can lift 40 and 65 lbs respectively. The payload attached to the line below the brodle point will not effect kite stability unless the weight sets up a yawing motion. Attaching the payload further from the bridle attachment point will reduce the loads effect on kite stability. My 120 sq ft kite flys well in 6 to 25 mph and has endured up to 60 mph winds for several hours without significant loss of stability. Bob Moore Hi Bob, Thanks for the input. I am only looking to lift 1/10 th that payload, but the little tidbit about putting the payload further from the kite is a point that I haven't given much thought to. I am considering using a Double DC with a 12' wingspan as well as the others that I mentioned. I am looking forward to your website coming online, you're the guy with the record attempt, aren't you ? I've read some of your posts and am looking forward to seeing some pictures. ~Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant man Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 i would like to see those pics too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Moore Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 Hopefully site will be back online within a week at www.kiterecord.org I have posted pics on the members gallery. Bob Moore Dubbo, Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant man Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 r moore cant wait to see the site rob a double conyane delta would probly work well if you not lifting alot of weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Moore Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Just another thought......or two. Manlifting feats, such as those by Cody and Hargraves always had the load well away from the kite. This applies to almost any significant load. If the load is placed on the kite or too near the bridle, the kite can't assume its natural angle to the wind. That is, the kite will not rise beacause the lift is low and drag high when the kite is almost vertical on the ground. There is a progam online which calculates load, kite angle, and altitude. It's called Kite Height Load Calculator. I don't have the url for it so put it in Google. If the site no longer exists I can email the program. It's just a sophisticated Excel spreedsheet so you will need MS Office with Excel. Bob Moore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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