CLTKiter Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 CLTKiter Posted: Oct 23 2003, 04:13 AM Advanced Member Group: Kitelife Subscriber Posts: 56 Member No.: 64 Joined: 17-August 03 When I bought my first Rev, the quad lines came on two winders. That was fine, but now that I have several linesets, the bag is starting to get a little crowded. And I'll be picking up another lineset in a couple of days. How difficult is it to use one winder for quad lines? I asked a friend (who taught me to fly Rev's) and he said he used one winder only once -- the first day he got his first Rev. He said he spent 45 minutes untangling the lines before he could start crashing the kite. I've viewed the Training Video and watch Joe Hadzicki unwind and wind the lines up in the video, and it looks easy. But... Any experience using one winder? Do you have to do something special when winding the lines up, like keep all four lines separate? Thanks, Doug -------------------- Light Wind Flyer... Covet Breezes Higher... ===================================================== AiyanaLeigh Posted: Oct 23 2003, 06:13 AM Wind Warrior Group: Kitelife Subscriber Posts: 127 Member No.: 43 Joined: 2-August 03 Hi Doug, Well I'm of the two winder school of thought. I struggled and struggled with having both sets of lines on one winder....almost cost me a competition once because my lines were so tangled. It didn't seem to matter what I did they always tangle on one winder. One day down at Ocean Shores a good friend and Revver suggested I go to two winders. He said that you can get set up two to three times faster and only add one more small step when you are putting them away again. I've been doing it ever since. -------------------- Why?....because it FLY'S *~Aiyana~* ===================================================== Penny Lingenfelter Posted: Oct 23 2003, 06:45 AM Wind Warrior Group: Members Posts: 108 Member No.: 79 Joined: 2-September 03 I use one winder. I untangle lines sometimes, too. But that's usually due to my not being careful how I put them away. If you can bind them down with bundgee, they stay put and it's not bad. BB Penny -------------------- Penny Lingenfelter Flying like I mean it with Revolution Kites and Laser Pro Gold Line~ No... it just can't get any better then this! ===================================================== CLTKiter Posted: Oct 23 2003, 08:35 AM Advanced Member Group: Kitelife Subscriber Posts: 56 Member No.: 64 Joined: 17-August 03 Hmmmmm. Thanks ladies. Penny, when you wind them up, do you do it with (not sure how to say this) two sets of lines coming through your fingers and not worry about the left being twisted or the right being twisted? Or do you have 4 single lines going through your fingers so they all stay totally untangled? On the video, Joe does two pairs. If all this makes sense??? Thanks, Doug -------------------- Light Wind Flyer... Covet Breezes Higher... ===================================================== kitecrazy Posted: Oct 23 2003, 09:21 AM Advanced Member Group: Kitelife Subscriber Posts: 45 Member No.: 76 Joined: 29-August 03 One way is to tie the top lines to your bottom lines as you take them off of your kite and handles .Myself I tie a larks head from the bottom line around the top line EVERYTIME so when I unwind them I always know which is top and which is bottom -------------------- "wind junkie" ===================================================== Penny Lingenfelter Posted: Oct 23 2003, 11:39 AM Wind Warrior Group: Members Posts: 108 Member No.: 79 Joined: 2-September 03 Absolutely larks head top line to bottom and I leave mine attached to the handles. That's up to you. I put the first set thru the hole on the winder and catch the sleeving on the winder and then the second line set I put thru the hole from the *opposite direction. That's about all the seperating of lines that I do. I stake down my handles, top of the handles at the top of the stake and unwind the lines. When they are off the winder, I stretch them out to the left and right as far as I can to get any twist as close to the handles as possible. Connect the lines to the kite and then *climb in to the middle between the lines. Catching the top lines (which is the bottom lines, but the kite is parked upside down for safety) I walk holding the top lines as I go. My body is seperating the lines and as I go I try to move by loosening any twist all the way down to the handles. Then bending down at the handles I usually go to my knees and my knees are now seperting the top lines from the bottom. Bottom lines under my knees, top line on top. Picking up one handle I unwind it, if necessary detaching one line and detangling it. There is a mantra for this step: "It's never as bad as it looks, it's never as bad as it looks." Repeat untill the lines are clear. Most of the time I just have to go around, around and thru because of swinging handles not bundgied down. To me it's worth it. Hope that's not to much info. BB Penny -------------------- Penny Lingenfelter Flying like I mean it with Revolution Kites and Laser Pro Gold Line~ No... it just can't get any better then this! ===================================================== John Barresi Posted: Oct 23 2003, 04:19 PM Kitelife Webmaster Group: Admin Posts: 10271 Member No.: 1 Joined: 31-May 03 I'll ditto the one winder approach... I have no problems with one, and never have... What it comes down to is making sure your lines are clear before winding, then pairing each top line to it's respective bottom line (lark's head together)... Then, take these two sets and wind together. The only issue that may arise is that with this is if your winder is too small... If the notches on each end are not deep enough to hold the lines, then if a loop of it jumps off the winder you're making spaghetti! But, the standard "Crazy 8" winder works fine. Another technique I use, while winding my lines "straight" I will throw a figure eight in about every 10-20 wraps to tie the bundle down and keep it from jumping off the winder. -------------------- Best winds, John Barresi Webmaster Satori Kites Kitelife Magazine ===================================================== CLTKiter Posted: Oct 23 2003, 05:55 PM Advanced Member Group: Kitelife Subscriber Posts: 56 Member No.: 64 Joined: 17-August 03 Thanks for all the advice. And no, Penny, it's not too much information. This lineset I'm buying is 100# on 85' and the winder will be a Crazy-8 so it shouldn't be too large. So I think I'll try it on this lineset and see if it works out OK. Then if OK, I'll get with my ol' buddy Russ and tell him I've one-upped him. Like I did when I bought the 1.5SUL. hee hee hee. If I can't do it easily, I just won't tell him. Thanks, Doug -------------------- Light Wind Flyer... Covet Breezes Higher... ===================================================== Penny Lingenfelter Posted: Oct 23 2003, 07:15 PM Wind Warrior Group: Members Posts: 108 Member No.: 79 Joined: 2-September 03 heeheehee you are sneaky! John, what do you mean by figure 8 to keep them on? I want to see! BB Penny -------------------- Penny Lingenfelter Flying like I mean it with Revolution Kites and Laser Pro Gold Line~ No... it just can't get any better then this! ===================================================== AiyanaLeigh Posted: Oct 23 2003, 09:29 PM Wind Warrior Group: Kitelife Subscriber Posts: 127 Member No.: 43 Joined: 2-August 03 Okay....so I'm out numbered here! I was NEVER any good at Macrame!! LOL -------------------- Why?....because it FLY'S *~Aiyana~* ===================================================== Jason Paul Posted: Oct 24 2003, 01:00 PM Newbie Group: Members Posts: 8 Member No.: 87 Joined: 8-September 03 As has already been said, make sure your lines are clear, and larkshead your bottom lines to your top lines. I also keep a finger between between the left and right pairs while winding. The only tangled mess I've had was the FIRST time I unrolled the LPG factory lineset. I was slow and careful, unrolling one flip at a time - still got a tangles mess that took 45 minutes to straighten out. It absolutely was the lineset. Since I've been doing it myself, I've been using one winder, and haven't had any problems at all. Jason ===================================================== CLTKiter Posted: Oct 27 2003, 09:38 AM Advanced Member Group: Kitelife Subscriber Posts: 56 Member No.: 64 Joined: 17-August 03 Thanks all. This passed weekend I was at the Carolina Kitefest and got to watch the Bay Area Sundownders unwind and wind up their lines several times. And then spoke with some of them. All of them put all four lines on one winder (BTW, they were using Laser Pro Gold 120'x100#). Instead of Larks Head, they pair up upper/lower with an overhand knot. Not sure it really makes much difference. Jeanette kept the left and right pairs separate while winding up, but Mark, her husband, doesn't worry about it. Some of the Sundowners shook the lines off the winder, but I saw one pulling the lines off. I spoke with another Sundowner (don't recall his name), and he talked me through the entire unwinding and setup. It was exactly as Penny explained above. When I mentioned that to him, he said he wasn't surprised -- he seemed to know Penny. Sound like the bottom line is... "If it works, keep doing it. If not, figure out something else". Doug -------------------- Light Wind Flyer... Covet Breezes Higher... 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