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One thing I have learned while in the pursuit of many hobbies over my lifetime is this. You have to ride the wave while you can. So glad I acquired some R-Sky kites. Like Rob said the Nirvana was legendary. My all time favorite image that I took of a kite is from the first flight of my Nirvana WW. Into the sun 73 from SHBKF

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Agreed, very different animals - and I'm pretty sure both do exactly what they were designed to do, Carl Robertshaw is one of the greatest kite minds on the planet, imho.

I know you've only tasted the ST so far... FYI, set up of each Djinn model has rendered the "light frame + vented sail" combo moot for me and my pilots, much for the same reason I change kites half as often than I did on my B-Series and NEVER change frames anymore, for any reason. ❤️

Nope, sorry!

This is true of most vented vs non vented kites. 👍🏻 I would offer that the wind range on the MV, VT and XT models of Djinn are probably wider on both ends than most of the comparable models from other brands except maybe a Shook Mesh or vented Polo. Last year, we had the STD, MV and VTD all flying team together in about 7 mph beach wind without any issues. The MV is a highly versatile inland kite for better than UL conditions. And, I LOVE kites, always appreciate a chance to speak with someone passionate about it, especially if they're new-ish, the questions are better. 😇