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We're pleased to yet again announce the next prize being given away to our most appreciated supporters, the Kitelife Subscribers... This month, Skydog Kites and Hang 'em High Fabrics have donated TWELVE classic SkyShark Response AirFrame carbon tubes, one of the earliest "super strong" tapered spars at a length of 32.5" and weighing in just under 19 grams each at full length, they are super smooth and super stiff... With the idea of possibly framing two or three high end sport kites, also included are six arrownocks and eleven ferrules, and these spars should serve particularly well as leading edges and / or bottom spreaders. All 12 spars, 6 arrow nocks and 11 ferrules will go to a single winner, and we encourage you to research amongst classic fliers and even SkyShark themselves about these spars which as we understand it are no longer made, and we're not even sure of the exact era. == If you haven't done so already, You can sign up here.Odds of winning for this prize is currently 1/415, and will be drawn on August 1st, 2020!Our thanks, and the very best to you... Let the drooling begin.

Starting this topic to assemble a fairly comprehensive list of all the video tutorial resources available online related to 2 string / dual line / stunt kite / sport kite flying... The list below is somewhat categorized by variety of knowledge, ideally getting more robust and eventually more complex as you work your way through. Kite Loft - Fundamentals as taught by kite store staff. Hosted by MonkeySee.com Dodd Gross - Fundamental and freestyle trick tutorials. Dodd's YouTube channel DVD - Flight School (no link) DVD - Flight School II (no link) DVD - Flight School III (no link) DVD - Flight School IV: More Tricks (YouTube) Prism Kites - Fundamental and freestyle trick tutorials. The Way To Fly Advanced Way to Fly Misc tutorials (YouTube) Reed Design - Animated practice / competition maneuvers (flight paths). International Rule Book (IRBC) for team, pairs and individual Stunt Team Competitive Kiting (STACK) for team, pairs and individuals Randy Greenway (aka RandyG) - Freestyle trick tutorials. Archive on Kite Clique RandyG on Vimeo Mama74 - Freestyle trick tutorials and studies (repeated examples). Mama74 on YouTube Rob Randolph Comete tutorial (YouTube) allkabi - 3D animations of trick maneuvers. Fractured Axel (YouTube) Flap Jack (YouTube) Roll Up, Half Lazy, Unroll to Fade (YouTube) Trick Sequence 1 (YouTube) And some added info (non-tutorial) Trick List (not complete) I'll likely reorganize as time goes on, but please feel free to add anything you've found in a reply and I'll add it to this lead post if I think it fits into what I want to end up with, otherwise it'll stay part of the discussion here - thanks!

Great giveaway John, these tubes are down spars only for SUL or standard sailed kites, PERFECT option easy to compare switching back and forth. Someone is gonna inherit some irreplaceable items, discontinued decades ago.... RARE and DESIREABLE the taper forces more weight forward resulting in a better glide when leading edge down doing field recovery envy to the winner, PM me if you want to unload, trade, sell, donate to a worthy cause? -plm

You center rod (straight tube) would just need to have a matching inner diameter. That being said, as you know, I'm not a proponent of tapered rods in a quad, messes with the flex ratio imho. Also, these spars are a bit too stiff for that application - they're really better suited to a good dual line, where you don't want the designed shape to distort - stiffer spars also help them wind "break" for stalls and slack line tricks.

What could you use in the middle, if you wanted to use these in a quad? or would they not work??

To answer 1 question - the venting on the 'B" is slightly more than a vented SLE sail. Look closely, and you will see that the vented panels are ever so smaller on the SLE. Agree with riff - 'B" pros were almost always a special order item. Most fliers liked to pick their own color combos. There were a few standard combos that some stores might have gotten as display pieces. But I'm guessing those were gone pretty fast.

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Most probably available from Rev directly. Can't be too pricey?

The Classic comes with the reflex uprights AND the standard uprights. The additional parts and "newer" design features are the difference in cost. You can save $80 now by buying the B, and if you get the urge someday to try the reflex setup you can purchase the reflex-style uprights separately and get some velcro at the hardware store and stick or sew it into position. It's well below rocket science level.

There needs to be some clarification..... First off the old B series and the new classic (in B sail pattern) are the same except the new classic series has the features of the B pro....ie doubled/sewn up LE ends....no more rev fray...yay!!! The only real difference is the new classic B has the velcro bits on the back side for Rev`s reflex frame system... I have a grey fade and did not need the frame or reflex stuff when ordering....sail only (have many frames)...and the velcro bits were on the sail. If you have an SLE sail....then it has a different sail pattern from the B pattern. The present EXP pattern is the same as the old SLE pattern...which given colour choices, can sometimes look way better than a B....huge factor. I digress....I have a full vented SLE sail and also had a full vented B.....yes I sold the B and kept the SLE....also, very important, the SLE can be the name of the kite only and will have a regular frame and NOT include those confounded tomato stakes they used back in the day....hence the SLE (rods) name. Either/or ya got yourself a nice kite....now the fun stuff... If you`ve saved 80 bux on this kite you are now 80 bux closer to your next kite as it is virtually impossible have only one (or two or...), or there is that other lineset/bulk spool, frame??? bt

Decided to revisit my original perspective design with a bit of black and Flo Green. LE is also Flo Green 72". Edge binding will be black. Sail is sewn and LE is ready. Should finish this kite up tomorrow.

Yowza...I really like that sail pattern.... That`s quite something!! It reminds me of....and please take this as a huge compliment...Steve Tapp`s multi paneled Enigma in a (your) quad sail. Maybe it`s the colours???...dunno but I`m thinking my eyes may get kooky after flying that for a while....guess you`ll have to send it over here to test my theory...lol. bt

Check on some fishing rod building websites. https://www.mudhole.com/supplies-rod-building

Interesting! Very interesting!!

I will say that shipping to Australia is expensive. I've shipped kites there before, last time was around $60 US. I didn't list a price because I was more looking for a trade. I might consider selling it for a little less than MSRP.

It took me months to learn simple tricks, like the axel. Years to learn how to 540. Cascade ? IDK if even now I do that right, as well as the 1/2 axel. But... I fly because it's fun. It was frustrating sometimes, but I am past learning 'every trick in the book', so now it's just fun.

The way back when machine is your friend: https://web.archive.org/web/20131012053815/http://www.idemployee.id.tue.nl/p.j.f.peters/kites/basics/alphaidx.frm.html There was an updated version on Fractured Axel called the Tricky Wiki, however I think this is no longer supported following the last site update, although it is still accessible: http://fracturedaxel.co.uk/wiki9/tiki-index.php?page=HomePage

https://www.youtube.com/user/DPmama74/videos That should keep you busy...