Guru4tru Posted June 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 And You're Welcome Sir!! heehee! And I thank you ahead of time for the "review!! Keep It Up! Duane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guru4tru Posted June 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 And You're Welcome Sir!! heehee! And I thank you ahead of time for the "review!! Keep It Up! Duane Oh Yeah...And we don't need to know their actual breaking point! heehee! Keep It Up! Duane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dowler Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 So I don't need to test them till destruction?? That's a relief, only broken 1 rod in 20 years!! Knock on wood!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guru4tru Posted June 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 So I don't need to test them till destruction?? That's a relief, only broken 1 rod in 20 years!! Knock on wood!! And I suppose we should have a dead line on this too. Seeing how the weather is not always as we would like and the fact that I can't remember much of anything anymore...we need to give you plenty of time and we need to have an end date we can both remember. I got it!! heehee! How about "John's 37th Birthday"!! Yeah...that's good and I'll remember it too, I think! The review has to be in before John's 37th Birthday! Have fun! Keep It Up! Duane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guru4tru Posted June 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Hey "SV", BTW...I didn't know you've been flying for 20 years! My referring to you as a "common Rev. Flyer" was probably quite an insult...I'm sorry about that! But, that should make you even more perfect for reviewing the Greenies...You have much more experience then I do, so you know what to look for and how it actually flies relative to the other rods...and...you are probably not as good as John, so you can still relate to us beginners! heehee! (No offence John, but gods are gods!) heehee! Keep It Up! Duane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dowler Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 That's 20 years total, had to take a bit of a break right after my stroke, then another recuperating from hip replacement!! But this last year has been exciting!! Lots of Rev flying, now with an Indoor almost a daily thing, and there has been no substitute for "time on the lines"!! Skills that I could only imagine are slowly peeking out from the darkness!! I had flown mostly dualies, with an occasional flight for my Rev1 if the winds were right!! Got to where I didn't like the pull so much and even though I had leaders on to adjust by, well they weren't enough!! I didn't even know that there was such a thing as a vented kite before last summer!!!! Now, I've got most of the wind range covered with vents of all types, no extra vent for hurricanes yet, and fly pretty much when ever I can! It will be interesting to see how the "greenies" react in different sails and if I like them or not!! By the way, you're right I'm no JB or Watty for sure, so you're sure to get an opinion from a regular but common flier!! Now if only the weather would play nice so I can go outside, Indoors is fun, but I need my dose of sunshine!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jynx Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Interesting stream! Looking forward to your review! ...Seeing I've given-up trying to figure-out the whole scheme of green vs. race god-rods! :confused!: ...I'll happily leave that up to YOU! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dowler Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Interesting stream! Looking forward to your review! ...Seeing I've given-up trying to figure-out the whole scheme of green vs. race god-rods! ...I'll happily leave that up to YOU! As soon as I get the chance to try them and compare with the rods I have, I'll post my "review"!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Talked to Watty - he feels regular race rods do the trick for him!!! He didn't like their flex, just like the "greenies"!! Aye, a LOT of folks like the greenies, they are good rods... I'm in the same boat as Watty however, as is the rest of the iQuad gang, we don't use 'em. Hi John, Can you be more specific as to why the "greenies" are a "no go" with the IQUAD gang? Keep It Up! Duane Watty hit it on the head... The green and zen rods a little too flexible for our taste, they don't have the "snap" and stiffness that we're partial to (speaking for iQuad as well). This of course, is also what makes the green rods so durable... The flex, and resiliency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dowler Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Update : Trying these rods in every sail I have, to do a fair comparison!! Got some initial thoughts, but that's what they are, initial!! Keeping the review in mind, will post when I feel satisfied comparisons have been done and are fair!! Good winds, everyone!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guru4tru Posted June 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Update : Trying these rods in every sail I have, to do a fair comparison!! Got some initial thoughts, but that's what they are, initial!! Keeping the review in mind, will post when I feel satisfied comparisons have been done and are fair!! Good winds, everyone!!! Hi "SV", We have the utmost certainty that your review will be the best possible review ever! heehee! The "Greenies", (like myself), live at the "Total Mercy of the Wind". One thing for sure, if a review depended on me, with the Florida summer here, it wouldn't get done till around Thanksgiving---Maybe! heehee! Keep It Up! Duane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dowler Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 Just got back from the Lincoln City Festival!! Tried them in a bunch of different sails, this weekend!! I will post my review shortly, after I organize my thoughts!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 Hi everyone! I'm a flyer from Singapore, and I've tried the greens and blacks in my 1.5 JB Pros. I too don't like the way the green flexes in strong winds (abit too much if you ask me) and unfortunately for me I ordered my JB Pro mid-vent with green race rods as well. I am going to see whether I can change it back to the black race rods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guru4tru Posted July 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 Hi Razor, Check out the "CURRENT DRAWINGS" posts about the "Crossfire"...If you qualify, you can have my numbers for this next drawing! Keep It Up! Duane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reef Runner Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Green Rods are Green Rods, Black Rods are Black Rods - THEY ARE DIFFERENT !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dowler Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Green Rods are Green Rods, Black Rods are Black Rods - THEY ARE DIFFERENT !! Yes they are, and that's OK!! Not every type of rod fits one's flying style perfectly, that's why there are so many to choose from!! You try, you form opinions, you decide what fits you and your style best!!! No one is "right or wrong", just figuring out how something fits into their choices!! Heck, what you like today may change tomorrow!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dowler Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 Well I'm up to a review!! First a disclaimer: I don't work for Rev or sponsored by them, the opinions expressed are strictly my own!! I've tried the "greenies" in every sail but my SUL. My observations: 1. Strong, very strong!! Now I know why Ben uses them in his teaching kites! I never felt that any punishment I could dish out would damage them!! Anyone got a hammer? 2. A bit heavy! If the black race rods are 2 wrap weight with 3 wrap strength, then these are 3 wrap weight with about a 6 wrap strength!! But seriously they felt a bit on the heavy side, especially compared to the black rods!! 3. This is a subjective call - I felt that the "greenies" never unloaded! How to explain - a gust would come, the kite would load, but they never unloaded for me!! Now I'm mostly a solo flyer, so I do a lot of playing around, trying stuff, but my feeling was that these rods didn't stop, but kept driving, when I wanted to halt! Now maybe that's a function of my style, but that's my read!! Just not the same control that I got with some of the other rod sets!! To compare things properly, I've used several different rod sets on the same day, using the same sail, in the same wind conditions!! My final conclusion: the "greenies work OK in the lower wind range of whatever sail you're using, but they feel a bit heavy, compared to some of the other rods!! So it's a trade off - extra weight but lots of flex, or lighter rods that already flex more!! In higher winds, they never seem to unload and give you the control you're looking for!! They drive, but don't stop as quickly as you're used to! As always IMHO!! I am open to your findings, fire away!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reef Runner Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 Well I'm up to a review!! First a disclaimer: I don't work for Rev or sponsored by them, the opinions expressed are strictly my own!! I've tried the "greenies" in every sail but my SUL. My observations: 1. Strong, very strong!! Now I know why Ben uses them in his teaching kites! I never felt that any punishment I could dish out would damage them!! Anyone got a hammer? 2. A bit heavy! If the black race rods are 2 wrap weight with 3 wrap strength, then these are 3 wrap weight with about a 6 wrap strength!! But seriously they felt a bit on the heavy side, especially compared to the black rods!! 3. This is a subjective call - I felt that the "greenies" never unloaded! How to explain - a gust would come, the kite would load, but they never unloaded for me!! Now I'm mostly a solo flyer, so I do a lot of playing around, trying stuff, but my feeling was that these rods didn't stop, but kept driving, when I wanted to halt! Now maybe that's a function of my style, but that's my read!! Just not the same control that I got with some of the other rod sets!! To compare things properly, I've used several different rod sets on the same day, using the same sail, in the same wind conditions!! My final conclusion: the "greenies work OK in the lower wind range of whatever sail you're using, but they feel a bit heavy, compared to some of the other rods!! So it's a trade off - extra weight but lots of flex, or lighter rods that already flex more!! In higher winds, they never seem to unload and give you the control you're looking for!! They drive, but don't stop as quickly as you're used to! As always IMHO!! I am open to your findings, fire away!!! Good review there, SV, and as much as I enjoyed reading your detailed take, on the green sticks, I likewise, stick with my earlier comments....... "Green Rods are green rods, Black Rods are Black Rods, and they are different" . I suppose you nailed it, thought, I just didn't know what to call it, but I knew there was something different, besides just being stronger. "Unloading" - that's the term, and I agree............Here, here ! Oh, IMHO, also ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dowler Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 I would think that these rods will be very useful to a "cruiser" like you!! I mean they really get up and go, I just don't like the stop qualities!! For me, the black race rods offer a different kind of flex that works for "my" style, others will like the "greenies"! Nobody is right or wrong, just different!! What works for you may not work for me, and vise versa!! That's why they offer so many different rod sets, to take advantage of everyone's personal style!! Hey, as long as we're all flying, what's the difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reef Runner Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 I would think that these rods will be very useful to a "cruiser" like you!! I mean they really get up and go, I just don't like the stop qualities!! For me, the black race rods offer a different kind of flex that works for "my" style, others will like the "greenies"! Nobody is right or wrong, just different!! What works for you may not work for me, and vise versa!! That's why they offer so many different rod sets, to take advantage of everyone's personal style!! Hey, as long as we're all flying, what's the difference? Well, I suppose they might be useful, for a "cruiser" like me, but personally, I just couldn't warm up to them. Initially, I thought I liked them, but after a while - no offense intended towards anyone, just my opinion, I decided I liked the Black Rods better......... I flew today, on the beach, and on the dunes, in 18 - 25 mph winds, with gusts up to 30...........and yep, I was using my trusty old Black Rods.......and I think I'm perfectly happy with them. There won't be many times that I need anything, any stronger, so I'll stick with my Black Rods ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dowler Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Perfect example of finding out what feels right to you!! And that can change anytime!! Everyone has a feel that suits them and their style, finding the right combo of rods and kite make the experience worthwhile!!! I encourage everybody to try things out and decide for yourself what works for your particular set up!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 That's a great review Wayne, thanks! 3. This is a subjective call - I felt that the "greenies" never unloaded! How to explain - a gust would come, the kite would load, but they never unloaded for me!! Now I'm mostly a solo flyer, so I do a lot of playing around, trying stuff, but my feeling was that these rods didn't stop, but kept driving, when I wanted to halt! Now maybe that's a function of my style, but that's my read!! Just not the same control that I got with some of the other rod sets! I especially appreciate this observation, as you've explained something I hadn't quite been able to articulate... I like that "snap back" from black Race Rods, kind of like sport suspension instead of Cadillac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dowler Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Thanks, John!! And THANK YOU, Duane, for making all this possible with your gift!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reef Runner Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Thanks, John!! And THANK YOU, Duane, for making all this possible with your gift!! Here, here ! I second that ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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