SS vs the Shockwave

[Michael]

I've had my exp for the last 6 month's or so, so i've got the handling down on the quads. I'm considering getting a shockwave but was reading on this forrum and most preffer the supersonic. can someone give me the pro's and con's for both plz. I was recomended the shockwave but dont know. help this newbie out. Also it would be nice if someone pointed me to a video of the shockwave/supersonic i've only been able to find one. thanx for ur time.

michael

[Penny Lingenfelter]

The Supersonic is a little smaller and more controllable.

It's rated 4-20mph.

The shockwave is quicker and needs a little more wind. It's rated 6-25 mph.

They both have a little pull to them and they will teach you how to fly things you might find challenging on a 1.5.

A sliding circle. The Speed series likes sliding circles.

Inverted sliding circles become a piece of cake.

Either kite is good. Just how much pull do you want? They don't pull so much in the lighter winds.

Either one would be fun to add to your bag.

Have you got a Rev II yet?

If you haven't, you must not have heard my tsunami theory. I'm predicting more wind and rain headed our way.... I just don't know when.

We went to Ocean Shores and Westport this weekend. The vented II flew beautifully in at least 30 mph.

I'd vote for the S.S. unless you live for a big pull.

BB

Penny

[windofchange]

Great reply Penny. I would have to agree with everything said. I have found that I really dont like flying either of the speed series unless the winds are well above 8 mph - closer to 12-14 is when these kites are absolutly awesome. For lighter winds I just stick to the Rev 1 or 1.5. Out of the two....I would have to say the SuperSonic is my fav...but I think that is only because I have spent more time on it than the Shockwave. Both are awesome in the right winds. Take it easy when you first get one of these...they are FAST! They'll definatly put your flying skills to the test!~

[Michael]

hmnm some food for thought there. still havent decided as too which one i want. as for what penny said i have an exp and my brother in law has an SLE they seem to be about the same for me i just wanted something a little more "fun" i guess you could say. as far as wind condition's go its fairly steady around 10mph when its blowing out here, dosnt seem to be an inbetween.

what are your thoughts on just getting a blast. the 3-25wind speed seems good although i've read alot of posts from people having problems with this kite.

Dunno really just confused. i've got a shockwave reserved at World Wind Kite's from Ty. thats what he recommended me. was just out for other opinions.

[Jason Paul]

Hey Michael,

Are you actually in or around Austin? If so, you might see if they're still having the fun fly on the third Sunday at Old Settler's Park. If they are, you may be able to get to try out both. I haven't been able to make it out there very much, but it's a fun time.

I would also recommend checking out the Rev 2. It's in about the same wind range, but hardly pulls at all.

Personally I'm not much for pull. I flew the SS in 15-20 mph wind and it was fun and pretty controllable. It seemed to pull about the same as a 1.5. The SW pulled more and I just didn't seem to like it as much. I didn't want to try a Blast in that wind.

My only Revs are a 1.5 and a 2, I don't have a Speed Series Rev. So, my experience is only based on 5-10 minutes on each one - but the SS is the one I kept wanting to fly.

Another option is to make your EXP more fun. Try it on shorter lines (like 35' - 50'). It will speed everything up and open up the option of throws and catches. It's not the same as speeding around the sky like a SS, but it's a different kind of fun.

Jason

[cbabbman]

what are your thoughts on just getting a blast. the 3-25wind speed seems good although i've read alot of posts from people having problems with this kite.

I have the SLE, Blast and Shockwave....

I started with the SLE and loved it... I then got the Blast because I REALLY like feeling power. The Blast has not dissapointed me in that regard. But, there are a few issues with it... from the start, the bungies connecting the inboard struts were not tightened properly. One of them was sticking up about 1/2 inch higher than the other when the kite was assembled. This was causing the sail to be bowed properly on one side but flat on the other. Made it a bear to fly properly but I was able to compensate. The power of this kite is pretty amazing and in a good wind, it's a ...blast...lol... I adjusted the bungee yesterday but it wasn't easy and I havent tested it yet. In light winds, it flys but I am finding that am just not a light wind flyer... it's just too much work for me. What I did find, through experimentation, is that light winds dictates the inboard brake attachment points and the down bridle...

The Shockwave is my favorite right now. It's very fast and very agressive and I really enjoy it. Very hard edged turns and plenty of pull for me. You want to fly it in better than 8mph winds though to get the full effect.

I haven't seen the posts of other peoples experiences with the Blast but I would love it if you could post a link. I'd really like to see what others are saying about it.

In the end, I have a feeling that I will have at least 1 of each style of Revolution...

The other interesting observation I had yesterday was that I put the SLE up after 3 weeks of only flying the Blast and Shockwave... man, did it feel SLOW.....

[Michael]

Hey Michael,

Are you actually in or around Austin? If so, you might see if they're still having the fun fly on the third Sunday at Old Settler's Park. If they are, you may be able to get to try out both. I haven't been able to make it out there very much, but it's a fun time.

thanx man i was out there last week. i was the only one with a quad though. ty showed up with his custom quad but it was while i was packing up. i'll be there again this 3rd weekend.

cbabbman,

thanx i apreciate ur feedback on the shockwave. sounds like the way to go for me too. i think i'm gonna get the shockwave for my "speed" need and the rev 1 for my "ballet" goofing. but eventually i'll probably own one from all the classes of rev's. lol

still looking for some peeps video's of the shockwave if anyone has a link.

[monkey]

but eventually i'll probably own one from all the classes of rev's. lol

*snicker* yes, well, they DO become a bit of a habit to accumulate.

"oh, I have enough revs"

"but, that one is just a little different..."

I've owned most of them at one point or another. I liked the Supersonic for a while, and I did own a Shockwave

up until last summer but, I tend to stick to 1.5s or 1s.

[Dorsal]

I've owned both, but sold my ShockWave. It seemed to be a lot more sensitive to wind gusts than the SuperSonic, suddenly zipping forward when a gust hit it.

But then, I'm over 50 and fly a kite to relax and enjoy the wind, not try to prove who's the boss.

[Michael]

I've owned both, but sold my ShockWave. It seemed to be a lot more sensitive to wind gusts than the SuperSonic, suddenly zipping forward when a gust hit it.

But then, I'm over 50 and fly a kite to relax and enjoy the wind, not try to prove who's the boss.

the zip's all the fun dorsal. and you're never too old to fly a kite. my birthday's tomorrow. i'l be 26

i think i'm set on the shockwave. now to just decide which one. the auqua/black or american red/white/blue. tough call.

[nckiter]

Hi Michael and welcome to the dark side!

Here's my 2 cents worth about the speed series:

For zipping and blasting around I prefer the SS to the SW. The SS will give you about the same speed but less pull. For more precise flying in the speed series I like the Blast.

That said, the speeds stay in my bag most of the time with 1s and 1.5s getting more airtime followed by vented 1s, 1.5s, and IIs as the wind picks up.

In my opinion if it says Rev it's a good choice. Anyway, once you are hooked you will eventually fly and/or own them all!

Kip

Apex, NC

[Penny Lingenfelter]

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hmnm some food for thought there. still havent decided as too which one i want. as for what penny said i have an exp and my brother in law has an SLE they seem to be about the same for me i just wanted something a little more "fun" i guess you could say.

wait a minute..... back up....

You can't tell me your bored with a Rev. already? How long have you been flying? What can you do with it? What can you not do with it yet? If you've really got it under control then maybe what you need is not a SS or a blast. (luv them both) but two- yes two more-1.5's.

I mean Rodger Maddy is getting old. (Sorry Rodger) We will need another multi line-multi kite kiteflier to travel the world and represent us. It's not going to be me. I'm old too and don't have time for that kind of practice.

It is something worth thinking about.

BB Penny

P.S. How are your reverse walk across's?

[cbabbman]

i think i'm set on the shockwave. now to just decide which one. the auqua/black or american red/white/blue. tough call.

My SLE & Blast are Aqua/Black... my shockwave is blue/red/clear...

I like the aqua/black better.... I want the red/gold next though..

[Michael]

You can't tell me your bored with a Rev. already? How long have you been flying? What can you do with it? What can you not do with it yet? If you've really got it under control then maybe what you need is not a SS or a blast. (luv them both) but two- yes two more-1.5's.

I mean Rodger Maddy is getting old. (Sorry Rodger) We will need another multi line-multi kite kiteflier to travel the world and represent us. It's not going to be me. I'm old too and don't have time for that kind of practice.

It is something worth thinking about.

BB Penny

P.S. How are your reverse walk across's?

[Penny Lingenfelter]

I'm not rich. Darn it! hehehe

I don't mean stacked. Anyone can fly stacks. You can stack everything you have so far. I mean fly 3 at once individually! One off of each hand and one from your waist or feet or where ever your talent comes from. It's ok though. If your not bored... Your ok .

BB

Penny

[windofchange]

Stacks are kewl!!!!!!!

[Dorsal]

You don't have to buy Rev's to make a stack of quads.

[Michael]

You don't have to buy Rev's to make a stack of quads.

tis true tis true. i've seen how you endorse the spirits thats cool but there's really only one spririt where as rev's got quite a few so its just more convienent to get stuck on rev's. as far as stack goe's only 99$ for just the plain kite same as the spirit. Dunno man I guess it just boils down to that i like my rev's. Either all in or nothing, an i right?

penny,

when you show me ur video of you flying 2 rev's,not stacked, by yourself, then i'll give it a try. I'm WAYYY to amature for that.

[Penny Lingenfelter]

Hehehe Me too!

I'm wanting to fly two indoors at once, but the handles I have right now need a hinge of some sort in them. But I've done it for a short time. I'm outdoors right now. I love it, but I sure am missing flying indoors. See, even after close to 20 years of flying my Rev. it still holds plenty of challenges. Don't wait o me... get better then me and even John B. He's not flying two at once "yet" either.

You'll let me know if you get bored, right?

BB

Penny

PS Love those stacks guys.

[Dorsal]

Penny, I own 5 or 6 Revs also. Lessee - an EXP, 1.5SUL, 1.5 SLE, SuperSonic, RevI, RevII - I think that's it.

I intentionally chose to make a Spirit stack after flying Uly's 5-Stack of 1.5 SLE's, because they pulled too much for me to really enjoy the effort. I had already noticed the difference in pull between them and my Spirit, but didn't know if the pull multiplied significantly by stacking Revs. It did.

The pull also multiplies when stacking Spirits, but by a much smaller factor. I have comfortably flown my Spirit 5-stack in 20 mph winds - a feat I would personally never attempt with 5 Revs.

Now, if the Spirits would just rocket across the window in inverted slides like the SuperSonic does, I would be a truly happy man!

Well, to each his (or her) own.

[Penny Lingenfelter]

Spririts are awesome. I liked them and the kite Nathan (sp) made. They are wonderful kites, but yes, each kite has it's own qualities.

Isn't Uly's stack sweet? I like stacks, but only for a short time. For me my flying is still about quantity. Fly as long as I can. Never~Never enough fly time.

BB

Penny

[EdouardD]

I've had my exp for the last 6 month's or so, so i've got the handling down on the quads. I'm considering getting a shockwave but was reading on this forrum and most preffer the supersonic. can someone give me the pro's and con's for both plz. I was recomended the shockwave but dont know. help this newbie out. Also it would be nice if someone pointed me to a video of the shockwave/supersonic i've only been able to find one. thanx for ur time.

michael

Hello…

Here some vidéos including 2 of SS :

http://www.greathigh.com/kites/

Good Winds

EdouardD

[Michael]

odly enough that is the only site i've found that had a video of either the ss or sw

[ant man]

ive had a shockwave for 1 year now and its a great kite it will keep you on your toes if you get a supersonic get the vented verson i flew 1 a month ago it was a fast and smooth kite you could probly fly it in a 30 + wind as for my shock its really not much diffrent then a regular super sonic other then a shockwave haveing a harder pull