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Not only were you leading with the full vent (VT) Djinn, the standard (ST) and mid vent (MV) were in line behind you, all capably flying in 6-7mph.

It’s pretty well known that I love both dual and quad pretty deeply, but I simply don’t fly duals in anything over 13-14 mph as it’s just not a lot of fun for me and quads fill that entire upper range so nicely... Also flying the Djinn, I’ve not had to do any frame changes at all (like I did on my old quads) since the wind range overlap is so broad and the bridle moderates the “explosive” side of the speed.

Breezin - changing quad frames is extremely simple. Nothing to untie. Just slide out the 3 pieces that make up the LE, put in the new ones, put the caps back on. Changing the verticals is a snap. Some go so far as to completely remove the frame on breakdown. Then they can put in whatever frame they want, given conditions. It's just that for me (with several kites built for specific wind conditions), it is easier to have favorite sail/frame combos. Then switch sails as conditions change.

"since the wind range overlap is so broad" Indeed!! Here is my experience with it ..... Up at WSIKF one day, John had all 3 versions of the Djinn out for people to try. The std version was always in someone's hands, so John suggested I try the midvent. I put it up, made a minor adjustment to the top lines and flew a bit. Felt good, but in those light winds, nothing stood out to me as spectacular. After a bit I put it down, told him very nice, and was waiting for the std to come open. Then he says - "Try the full vent." Now I'm skeptical, these winds wouldn't be enough to fly what I use regularly, so I look at him and he says - "Just try it." So I launch it, and am amazed that it can even fly in these winds! Then a strange thing happens - pretty soon I'm leading a line of fliers. Now this may not seem out of the ordinary, as I do this fairly regularly, BUT I"M DOING IT WITH THE FULL VENT!! Any moment, I'm expecting the mid and/or std to run me over!! NOT! Led for quite a bit, put it down, and just shook my head!! Did I just see what I thought I saw?? OVERLAP? - INDEED!!

Always enjoy topics about wind range of specific kites. Also glad to see the discussion of alternate tube choices for Hadziki wings. There was a time that I feared appropriate tubes would no longer be available & I did not think I could make satisfactory ones on my own. But now more choices are obviously available & the originals are less important. When I got involved in quad sport wings I was impressed that you could change frames so easily. That is not so easily done on dualies. But in reality I am like Wayne, I change kites as the wind conditions warrant. That is a luxury I did not have when starting out with only a few kites. Times have changed in that aspect as well. Just some thoughts from out here in the sticks, SHBKF

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When it comes to wraps (aka twists), I find it becomes kind of like a dance after you get familiar... "A few times this way, a few times the other way", back and forth, until you get kind of a style and rhythm when what you've done one way becomes the set up for a few things the other way, always cycling anywhere from 2-5 wraps (I don't generally put in more than that unless I'm specifically free spinning for the fun of it).