Reef Runner

Yep .....

Does it telescope up to around 100' - 120' ? If so, I could have used one of those !

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Really, that's news to me too, but I guess you would know, Wayne. I really wasn't aware that there was a 9" handle, until SR mentioned it. That is definitely short. My Rev II, came with 11" handles, but that was in 2010.......... Can't believe that they put those short 11" handles with the Rev I, back in the beginning............ Things change !!

If so, you'll never hear about it.........

It'll happen when you least expect it...............so good luck (kinda)

I know that for me 1/2" would not be enough to notice, but I don't think adding handle length would feel like more brake. The longer moment arm makes the brakes a tiny bit more sensitive. So you wouldn't be starting with more brake (other things being equal), but you would get braking with smaller hand motions. Yep, yep...............that was the, "theoretically, be like adding just a touch more brake, eh? Maybe ?" part ! It's got to have some effect. I'm just not sure how much..........but either way, I'm with you - It would take more than 1/2" for me to notice a difference......I suppose I'm not quite that dialed in !

Sounds like a plan........... On a personal note, I dislike the hog's rings, whether they cause problems, or not. I simply don't like the way they look, which of course has absolutely nothing to do with their functionality; I just don't like them. I've been flying so long now, with retro-fitted handles, that when I see a set of stock handles, it makes me take a second look, every time. I actually forget, that's the way they come - stock! I suppose adding a 1/2" or so, of length to the bottom end of the handle, would theoretically, be like adding just a touch more brake, eh? Maybe ? Don't see where that would be a problem..........for sure.....

Sorry Barton - just gotta let go, every now and then.............NOW, back to "business as usual" 5 - 9 - 0 5 - 9 -0 5 - 9 - 0 5 - 9 - 0 5 - 9 - 0 5 - 9 - 0 5 - 9 - 0

Some will definitely say YES, it makes a difference. Some would never know. Let's see now, we've got 11", 13", 15", & 17" handles, so what difference does it make, if we hit somewhere in between one of those ............ ? Don't forget the 9" handles on the original Rev 1's. I know of a great flyer that had a set of 14"s made up. It might be a case of what you get used to. @ Sparkierob...............I wasn't even aware of those 9" sets, or forgot ! @ Barton...........I remember when the "plastic anchor & screw" modification first came out, years ago, and there were some that actually objected to that, because it added 1/4" - 3/8", maybe even 1/2", to the overall distance, "between the upper and lower leaders", but in reality, probably for the reason that you just mentioned. My solution to that was: If the added length, between the leaders, was going to be a problem with your flying, then cut the handle off clean, at the hog's ring hole, and then place the plastic anchor and screw there. This would result in leaders, that would exit the snag-less handle, at the very same place, as "where the hog's rings were originally located", and the set-up (distance between upper & lower leaders) would be restored. Something on this order, may be and option that you would want to think about, should the added length of your inserts, become a problem, specifically on top. Remove that additional length, from the original handle, on both top and bottom, and - Voila ! Same length handles, same set-up, as original.. As before (years ago), my flying is not refined enough for this change to make a big difference, in how I control my kite. When I can fly my Revs, with 11" handles, turn around and use the standard 13" handles, and then pick up someone else's 15" handles, and still fly normally, I find it hard to understand how adding 1/4" to 3/8" to overall length of my handles, is going to present a problem (?). I do, however, understand that extending the top portion of the handles (above the grip), may present a comfort problem for some, but that could easily be remedied, as described above. Still, a great idea you've got there, Barton, and with a little craftsmanship, no reason anyone couldn't adapt those inserts, to any size handles. The biggest challenge for most, should they desire to do so, will be cutting off the original factory handles, and preparing the ends, to accept the inserts. Those handles are stainless steel, and that stuff (as you well know) is tough, and won't be easily whacked off easily, with a hack saw. Yes, a simple retro-fit for some, a challenge for others.....

just something to make you giggle trying to envision 200 of pvc vertical weeblewobbling all around. I have used air,water,etc..but with the height and tangled lines....... Food for thought for next time. Hope there's not a "next" time...............

Hey FOOL ! We're looking for # 5 - 9 - 0 .............. got it ?

Some will definitely say YES, it makes a difference. Some would never know. Let's see now, we've got 11", 13", 15", & 17" handles, so what difference does it make, if we hit somewhere in between one of those ............ ?

That's interesting also..............any pics ?

I've never snagged, top or bottom, but I suppose that's because I did the other re-mode, a long time ago. Your work looks really good. The only reason I ask about the tops, is purely for aesthetic reasons. I'm sure, there will be lots of people that "simply" want, the top and bottom of their handles, to look alike........... Maybe not ? Just thinking out-loud !!!

Oh, are you going to put them on the top of the handles, also ?

Hey Barton, Those look mighty nice..................GREAT WORK !!

The golf course wouldn't think too highly of that..........although, I'd love to I was actually in my own yard, when I put the kite up, but the tree it lodged in, was on the golf course, which borders my property...........

Congratulations "Dragonfish"..................nice catch !

Yep, that's the ticket.............I've got some of those (allen head) too......Hadn't thought of that.... But still...........it would be hard for the loop to come off the head of the screw, with the stock "black rubber cap", in place.......

Interesting....may have to try it this way. I usually just use the screw from the anchor and larkshead to it.2013-08-09 20.53.08.jpg Hey Scott, You really don't need to put a lark's head, around that screw. Just put the loop over the head of the screw, snug the screw down (not too tight), and slide the black rubber tip back into place. I'll assume that you threaded the leader through the "black rubber tip", before you put it over the head of the screw............. Right ? ps........ I like SparkieRob's idea, about using the drywall screw (smoooooooth anchor point)

That sounds like a pretty good idea. I suppose you are speaking of, "drywall screws" ?

I just touch them to the bench grinder, followed by a wire brush (also on the bench grinder)..........

Because they are very sharp, and will cut the crap out off your hand................

@ Bart...........Would love to see those also, which I believe I understand. As for my previous request, I couldn't quite visualize what RAGINCAJUN was describing, in his post. Maybe he'll post some pics also.