FranckPG Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Here is a quick little clip of me learning an important lesson. " don't try tricks you haven't perfected while hovering over crashing waves." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaginCajun Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 You did good! I like putting on 120's, standing at the waters edge and practicing axels.. Lol Really makes ya concentrate and think about what you're doing. Sent from my SM-G900V using KiteLife mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranckPG Posted September 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Really tho, I did NOT learn my lesson Did the same thing the next day only that time the next wave dragged the kite INTO the ocean and had a hell of a time pulling it out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 AWESOME!That's the kind of thing that you learn from, and now that it's done the water will never again be quite as scary. Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranckPG Posted September 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Trying to figure out what I did wrong here. Felt like all the wind just got sucked right out of the sail and it just dropped right in. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Got caught in a stall while upright, where you never ever want to be caught... Part of the instruction that I give for urban, low wind and water flying is to "keep your logo moving" (forward) as long as the kite is the least bit upright... Once upside down or sideways, you have a chance to glide or hover more effectively. Bear in mind, this primarily applies to break-heavy fliers (correct tuning IMHO)... Old school Rev folks with short top leaders won't have this problem nearly as much. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dowler Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Watch yourself closely - you try "guiding" the kite up by moving your hands that way, not moving the handles into the forward drive position. The kite doesn't respond to your arm movements, as much as handle movements. The way you moved, created a "neutral" command to the kite - it didn't go because you didn't tell it to!! IMHO! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Aye, that too. Moving your hands up doesn't do a lot... Better to convert that into a clear "thumbs back" position on the handles, IN FRONT of your chest while stepping backward and drawing back straight away from the kite. To say it differently, vertical, lateral and diagonal movement does nothing to give the kite power or drive - the only thing that can do that is forward control and movement directly away from the kite (to create pressure against the sail). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dowler Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Thanks for explaining it a bit more clearly John! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Hopefully I didn't go overboard, thanks for the prompt brother Wayne. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 And @FranckPG, please know I LOVE your video and what you're doing - we're just talking shop here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranckPG Posted September 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 I put this clip up knowing I could learn from the veteran flyers, the feedback is great. I see what you mean about my arms flapping around. Bad form. Although I know not to move arms/hands up down or sideways once in a while when I get in a panic spot the reflex is to try and bring the kite up with arms up.working on that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Panic mode. Exactly, I saw the break from your normal mode when the problem occurred, obviously not the norm - your control looks pretty solid overall.Just keep building the "cool" response, put yourself in those positions repeatedly and work through it, build a convention of response. Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranckPG Posted September 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Plus I'm nervous about the spins I just started doing. Seems I can only spin real fast. Not sure why but I can't figure out how to slow the spins down. Plus I can't keep them level, I spin but it spirals downward and eventually into the ground as shown in the end of the clip. Btw,John,Wayne greatly appreciate the time your taking with this amateur. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dowler Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Use much brake? Long top leaders and short bottoms? Long top leaders give you back some of the control the kite CAN give. Too short and the kite is always locked into drive, feels fidgety, nervous. Longer tops will make it a bit harder to launch, but give you much more control once airborne. Spins losing altitude? Try trading hands as you spin. Keep the hand controlling the high wing, pulled in a bit. As you spin, it's a constant switching of the pulled in hand. It also should allow you to control the speed better. The faster you trade, the faster the spin - try to match them up. Another idea is to think about bringing the bottom up, rather than the top down. Gets rid of the "down thought" and instead replaces it with "up"! Try simple 180* turns in place - face left, then right, then back to the left, always doing a "down turn", but always thinking - bring the bottom up. And trying to keep them at the same altitude!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makatakam Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 All of the above -- plus much, Much, MUCH smaller inputs. You can fly a Rev just by moving your finger tips. Too much input is what makes the kite move fast, in any direction. Practice flying sloooowwwwllllyyy in all directions: forward, reverse, sideways, angles, circles, figure-eights -- every direction. Make it crawl. Add more brake each time you fly. You will get used to it and it does help with control. It will pretty much eliminate the kite wanting to go off somewhere without your permission. It will make the kite slower but gives you lots more control, and if you give the thumbs back it will move pretty quickly. You will notice some improvement each time you fly. Have fun, smile and don't forget to breathe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 4 hours ago, FranckPG said: Plus I'm nervous about the spins I just started doing. Seems I can only spin real fast. Not sure why but I can't figure out how to slow the spins down. Plus I can't keep them level, I spin but it spirals downward and eventually into the ground as shown in the end of the clip. Btw,John,Wayne greatly appreciate the time your taking with this amateur. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You may want to study the bicycle rotation and clockwork tutorials... Both of these directly address topics that combat loss of altitude during a spin / rotation. http://kitelife.com/forum/files/file/691-rev-tutorial-bicycle-rotation/ http://kitelife.com/forum/files/file/814-rev-tutorial-clockwork/ http://kitelife.com/forum/files/file/820-rev-tutorial-traveling-bicycle/ All those tutorials are accessible to you as a paid subscriber (thanks), you can also download them and copy to your mobile device if you like. Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Note, I think you'll need to use your browser the view those videos - the KiteLife app is quirky for that sort of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranckPG Posted September 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Thanks for the reminder about the tutorials. It's telling me that I am no longer a subscriber. I think I subscribed last sept. But I did load a few of those videos onto my phone last year. Just watched the one on the bicycle rotation. I have to admit when I first watched it last yr none of it made any sense but after more time on the lines this past yr it makes a lot more sense now. Thanks again. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Says you're a subscriber... Please tell me more about the error / steps / page that is stopping you from downloading from the video links above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranckPG Posted September 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Getting this when I click on your link. Then I click on sign in and get this messageTried thru the kitelife app with same resultSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Maybe a dumb question on my part, but did you try clicking OK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranckPG Posted September 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Tried that. Same result. Will try from computer at home. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 Hi @FranckPG, sorry I let this lag so long - got behind with my recent trip to Detroit. Any update on accessing the videos? Let me know either way and I'll make it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranckPG Posted October 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 No sweat John. I did figure a way to make it work. I loaded them onto my mac. They were mkv files which I converted to MP4 then into iTunes then synced onto phone for easy viewing while on the go. I'm sure there's an easier way but that's how I made it work. Thanks brother. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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