KiteKouple Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 I was at kite shop yesterday and came across this 12' box delta. I am deciding between the 11' delta with No Box versus this one. Does one have more lift than other or fly in better or different conditions? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobB Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 I have found that DC and double-DC kites fly WAY better than traditional flat Deltas. I have a number of both, and that's been my experience. I've talked with others who claim to never have problems with regular deltas, but I find that they have a smaller wind range, and are not very tolerant of anything but smooth wind. Ghost or Pyro deltas are a different story, they are very stable in a wide variety of winds, but the traditional triangle delta is not a set it & forget it kind of kite, they will end up on the ground if not constantly tended to. One exception to this in my collection is an 11' mesh delta, that isn't too bad, but still ends up on the ground unexpectedly. The DC and double DCs can be staked out and fly for hours, and will be in the sky where you left them unless the wind drops. By far, this is my favorite, it flies in 5-25 mph winds, bumpy, choppy, or smooth... all day long. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHBKF Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 21 minutes ago, RobB said: I have found that DC and double-DC kites fly WAY better than traditional flat Deltas. I have a number of both, and that's been my experience. I've talked with others who claim to never have problems with regular deltas, but I find that they have a smaller wind range, and are not very tolerant of anything but smooth wind. Ghost or Pyro deltas are a different story, they are very stable in a wide variety of winds, but the traditional triangle delta is not a set it & forget it kind of kite, they will end up on the ground if not constantly tended to. One exception to this in my collection is an 11' mesh delta, that isn't too bad, but still ends up on the ground unexpectedly. The DC and double DCs can be staked out and fly for hours, and will be in the sky where you left them unless the wind drops. By far, this is my favorite, it flies in 5-25 mph winds, bumpy, choppy, or smooth... all day long. I would give the above post two likes if I could. I admired Rob's kite so much I got one for myself. It is a beauty! SHBKF 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmond Dragut Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 delta are flying in lower winds but any high gust may break the spreader rod. boxed delta need more wind to launch but the vent make them to fly in gusts and high winds without any problem 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteKouple Posted April 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 I really am leaning to the box delta, it's different and not something I have in the collection. @RobB That Barbara Meyer Double Box is a beauty and the tails just add to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas Flier Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 On 4/13/2018 at 8:28 AM, TeamVee said: Does one have more lift than other or fly in better or different conditions? That is one nice looking Conyne. I do not own a Conyne of that size. For comparison, the 8' ITW Rocky Mountain Conyne lifted the new 6' ITW Flying Spider windsock better than a Powersled 14. The 14 wasn't a slouch, but there were times when the Spider was getting on the heavy side for it. I use a Powersled 10 interchangeably with a 5' Conyne for lifting light things or as a pilot kite. I would guess that a Powersled 24 would have more lifting power than a 12' Conyne. Conynes usually have 4 tail attachment points, to the Delta's usual 3 points. Conynes are easy to stack(never stacked deltas, but it seems like Conynes would be easier to stack.) I find that, without a tail, the Delta will more easily overfly and glide than a Conyne. Adding a tail usually cures this issue. I know my 11' and larger deltas will fly in less wind than my 8' Conynes. As for stability, I would say the Conyne with two tails is about as stable as a sled with a drogue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteKouple Posted April 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 Went back into the shop today and purchased the Box Kite with twin matching tails! Running 250 lb line for lifting laundry. Island Life | UFUV | Kite Life Subscriber 1482 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmond Dragut Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 IMO, for 12' box delta you will need more then 250 lbs line. i will go with 500 just to be on the safe side 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobB Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 I agree, save that 250# line for winds less than 10mph. All these 10'+ kites develop serious pull in winds over 10mph. I fly with mostly 300# and 500# line. This is what the double DC looked like yesterday in ~15mph winds. It was work to pull it back down ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteKouple Posted April 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 Bumped the order at shop from 250 to 500 lb. [emoji91][emoji1305] with twin fuzzi tails to match .... #Showstopper Island Life | UFUV | Kite Life Subscriber 1482 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobB Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 Did you get the kite in the OP ? What color fuzzies ? how long ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteKouple Posted April 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 Yes the Premier Citrus OP with twin matching Premier citrus/green fuzzis that at 6" x 24' Long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobB Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 That is going to look super-sweet ! Make sure you post some pix, can't wait to see ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteKouple Posted April 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 Kite is officially home with twin tails! Winds were 3 mph today. Hoping to fly tomorrow! If I do fly tomm., I’ll post pics.. Island Life | UFUV | Kite Life Subscriber 1482 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteKouple Posted April 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 Excellent wind today! She flew with Twin tails and also with a 33' center tail (not shown)! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makatakam Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 I'm likin' it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteKouple Posted May 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 The Box lifted laundry like butter flying steady with no issues.... she looked great next to the 10M Trilobite. Thinking about the next kite : 18 ft. Mega Macaw [emoji848].....Island Life | UFUV | Kite Life Subscriber 1482 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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