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After realizing I was completely hijacking the other conversation, I split this off to its own topic.. I'm going to break with conventional wisdom and disagree with what we've always thought on one minor point. The B-series taught Rev how to vent from what is now the standard accepted approach. Mid-vent take a stripe off of each wing and replace with screen . Full vent, Take 2.. etc. Bazzer's Phoenix started venting the trailing edge (including on the full sail) which changes the way the kites load up. It kind of de-whumps the sail if you know what I mean. Right or wrong it was a different approach that really seems to come into its own around the full vent level. The Spider as you said, moves lamost all of the flying surface outside the spars which works but the kite has very little glide and no real belly to load. It was yet another approach. @John Barresi's Djinn design smooths out the limitation of the B-Series by making the venting profile follow the natural curvature of the loaded sail. It adds a consistent relief in a more effectively targeted area. Personally (and this is why I disagree), in those versions of venting, (including on the Shooks) you still have a basic solid panel in the center which in essence becomes the axis of your flying surface. Too much belly throws off the overall balance of the sail as much as "not enough" affects the Spider. You end up flying the belly which can lose fine control of the outer surfaces. IMO, a balanced approach to venting across the entire sail whether a small amount or a large amount gives you the best result. You still have your balanced sail feel on the handles. You still have your glide. Most importantly, no part of the sail becomes overpowered in a gust. We've all made tweaks to existing designs to get what we want from our kites. The balanced venting approach is really hard to set down once you've tried it.. It feels like a full sail, flies like a full sail but handles the high wind in ways you'd never expect. Bottom line, is I feel a balanced approach to venting gives you the most stable sail design, within your targeted wind window and even just above it. It takes more work to make a kite this way but it's truly worth it for the increase in feel and handling. Winds 18-25 Flying balanced diamonds venting Full Vent 72" style. Blisteringly fast but still balanced flight. Winds were whipping this year at the Rogallo. 1.5 size and my balanced diamonds mid venting.. Notice the flags in the foreground at the beginning of this vid.

Yes I’m now a member of STACK and taken out the additional insurance for solo flying for the same price as my old power kite insurance, STACK also on top of that offer an additional insurance for competitive flying too 😊

What was the conclusion, did you manage to sort insurance or find any more information? Sent from my SM-G973F using KiteLife mobile app

DONE!!!

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