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ran across this info by accident and am very glad that i did. i will assume that this has been listed on this site before, but maybe it can come to light for the newer flyers now. fascinating. you can see other levels of instruction with a search of "fly 4 fun." i happened to find the master's list. tom https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=fly+4+fun+master

I understand it completely.

Hi Fred, Just thought I would mention that I own both a STD and a vented Challenger. IMHO, they are both very nice kites and the build quality seems to excellent. I am sure that whatever Andy shared with you about the kite is spot on!! The TICA 202 is also a very nice kite, but as Andy pointed out, a bit bigger and that may cause issues for you and your back. I am fairly new at kiting and am trying to learn a few tricks. I have MUCH to learn, but have no doubt that the Challenger is up to the challenge and would be able to trick with ease!! Good luck in your choice, Lon

have you looked at the spec page for the challenger at oskusa's website? seems like they put the right stuff in and on the kites, other than that i dont know much about them. also found a post here in General Sport Kite > OSK Challenger by Mikelp3586

Yes. I own 3 Djinn. Love them! I just want a good dual line in my bag that will be easy to trick. Andy said the Challenger would do that. I just am looking for the reassurance so I don’t waist the cash. Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app