The speed series kites and the rev2's come with 11 inch handles, but I prefer the 13 inch handles for both. The 11 inch handles put less input into the kite since they won't move as far with an equivalent rotation as the longer handles so people say that's better for the twitchy kites and for beginners, but I always felt like the control with the short handles was squishy and unresponsive even when I was learning. I fly 80' 175# Skybond on my sonic vented, and I fly Skybond on all my revs. It seems to slip better than the laser pro gold to me. I'm not putting LPG down, It's great line. I simply prefer how the Skybond feels. You are entering the dark side, Nick Russell, where you will soon learn there is no one answer for any question.the best way is to get the kite in the air and learn what you like. We are never lacking in opinions though.