JoneZ Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Made my own top and bottom leaders (there were only 1 knot on the std ones.). Wish me Luck!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guru4tru Posted December 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 lol Thanks man. Hey!! Looks like we have almost the same sail pattern!!! lol Looksies! ALRIGHT JON!! Congrats on your NEW REV.!! (And a most beautiful one at that!!) So, we'll be learning together, although I'm sure your learning curve will be a bit more to the vertical then mine--especially with JB and others assistance, but I'll have the weather in my favor for awhile and if I get up there, or you down here, we'll work out a little routine with our (almost) twin Black Rainbows!! I'm happy for your happiness!! (That makes being 30--not so bad!!) Keep It Up! Duane PS There is no escape from the DARKSIDE now! "Evil is a word used by the ignorant and the weak. The 'Dark Side' is about 'Survival'. It's about unleashing your 'Inner Power'. It glorifies the strength of the Individual." ―Darth Zannah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Jon, you'll need to nearly double the length of those top leaders. (not kidding) See my PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloo Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Yep, and maybe even shorten the bottoms too. My tops pretty much reach the bottom of my handles. Never used the last knot on them as yet, however I am sure I will some time. Better to have too long then once you are sure of how long you might want them trim them off. If they are too short they are just that, too short!! Should add however, if they are right for you, then they are right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Yep, bottoms needn't be more than 2"-3" in length, they're fixed length pigtails. I do recommend the longer tops, but other than that, we'll compare notes on Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgewarden Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 lol Thanks man. Hey!! Looks like we have almost the same sail pattern!!! lol Looksies! Yup, and Spz0, your's is even closer to mine - pattern and geography wise. Might meet you someday at Long Beach or Delta Park. We'll make everyone jealous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoneZ Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Ok, someones gotta explain this to me: About the length of the leader lines. Just for sh!ts n giggles, I hooked my top leaders on the very last knot (farthest from the handle), and the bottom lines on the knot closest to the handles. That has to be the MOST uncomfortable hand position I've experienced -- I had to adjust my hands so the bottom handles were practically touching the top lines (if ya dig), in order to get decent lift. So,, whats with the long top leaders? I just don't get it. If I tie them off at the midway point, its so much easier to control, and so much easier on my hands. Im new to the theory, so go easy on me folks. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Comes down to line tension and hand position. It feels awkward at first, but you'll start to understand and appreciate it after a few hours, I promise you. Thing is, although it may not seem like it, you're probably still controlling the kite primarily in a static body/arm position. Here are couple of great topics to check out on the Rev forum until I get a hold of you on New Years... http://www.revkites.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1205-b-series-handle-tuning/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 A few more... http://www.revkites.com/forum/index.php?/topic/256-newbie-question-handle-orientation/ And one of my personal favorites... http://www.revkites.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1870-sharing-a-response/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 A couple of videos for perspective on body work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoneZ Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Wicked man. I'll give all these a look over tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoneZ Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 I have been pretty static in my body motions when flying. I don't think I can handle that much at this point, until I get the basics mastered,,,, fly up, hover, fly down. Invert -- fly up, hover, down -- slides, etc... The hands in that cocked position (for forward drive) just don't do my wrists good at all. hehe. All those years of computer programming gave me a nasty bout of carpal tunnel, and ulnar nerve issues. by the looks of it, I'll be able to cancel my gym membership once I really get into quad flying, by the way you're movin' out on the field. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoneZ Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Comes down to line tension and hand position. It feels awkward at first, but you'll start to understand and appreciate it after a few hours, I promise you. Thing is, although it may not seem like it, you're probably still controlling the kite primarily in a static body/arm position. Here are couple of great topics to check out on the Rev forum until I get a hold of you on New Years... http://www.revkites....-or-brake-line/ http://www.revkites....-handle-tuning/ K Im starting to get the theory a bit more on handle tuning. I can see how this tuning (in theory) would really be beneficial in higher winds, but not so much in the lower winds. Then again, its just something to get use to -- like getting use to holding dual line straps with 3 fingers as opposed to putting your your hands through the wrist straps. I just need to get use to the rather uncomfortable wrist position, and making it work for me. I've never wanted to fly so bad as I do now. lol Damn snow/rain... hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoneZ Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Whats to be said about putting your pinky fingers behind the handles, as opposed to gripping the handle? That would make it much easier on the wrists, and I don't really use them for anything asides from leverage (as stated in a post of yours I read) anyhow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guru4tru Posted December 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 lol Thanks man. Hey!! Looks like we have almost the same sail pattern!!! lol Looksies! Yup, and Spz0, your's is even closer to mine - pattern and geography wise. Might meet you someday at Long Beach or Delta Park. We'll make everyone jealous. Howard & Jon... I'm really impressed, and I'm sure both of you are proud of yourselves, for tying for 2nd place in "The Most Beautiful Black Rainbow Rev." contest!! Happy New Year! Keep It Up! Duane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoneZ Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 LoL. My beauty is in a class all its own. That way, it's guaranteed the Goose. hehe Although its (and I say IT because it hasn't spoken a gender to me yet) name eludes me, Im sure in more airtime it'll speak its name to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Pinkies behind the handles is alright, as long as it doesn't limit your ability to change hand position on demand. Trick is locking the handles with thumb, index and middle finger, laying loose with the bottom two fingers. Also, turning your hands slightly sideways, assuming an "a-frame" position with the handles will ease the stress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoneZ Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 ah yes. A frame makes a difference for sure (holding handles now). It's really foreign to me (the hand positions), and something Im sure I'll get use to. Rev's all washed up, waiting to get dirty on new years day! heheh. Im getting sick (I think), but hell or high water, IM THERE!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Right on brother, bring a cup and we'll serve ya hot tea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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