Cyphert Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 i decided that i need a 100 foot rainbow tube tail to fly behind my rainbow jam session. i know itll need a bit of wind anyone have any idea how much wind it'll want? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobB Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 10mph-20mph. I'm not sure of the upper wind range of that kite, but I'm thinking it will need at least 10mph to get going. Have fun with that ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reef Runner Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 I've never flown a 100 foot tail, but I do have one that's 80 feet. When folded flat, it's about 3" wide, and yes, it takes a good 8 - 10 mph, preferably 10+, to lift it off the ground, and fly successfully. Of course, the tail does slow the kite quite a bit, and will drastically limit what can be done with it, however, a tail that large will definitely make a statement in the air, and draw quite a bit of attention. I agree with Rob, though, assuming that your kite can take the wind, and it should (it's rated 3 - 24 mph), you'll have a much better experience, closer to the 15 - 20 mph range. Ought to be a real sight ! Now, the down side of long tails, is folding them up, once you're done flying, especially if that 15 mph is still hanging around. I've found the best way to deal with that, is to have one of those plastic grocery bags in your pocket, and use it as a temporary stuff sack. Then, when you get back home, out of the wind, it will be much easier to deal with....... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyphert Posted June 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 my kite can handle the wind no problem. itll be going so slow with the tail it shouldn't be a problem. i fly it 20 plus all the time. thats when i think the tail will look its best. now im not sure but im assuming it will want to turn a lot with the high wind and slow to move forward. all the videos i have seen they look fun. im thinking ill fly the 50 stack when the wind is below 15 and the long tail when its over 15. im not a huge fan of tricks any ways i like the big shiny fancy loud things. ill give it a shot this weekend at Lincoln city if the wind is right. itll be a learning experience. now will the drag from the tail require heavier lines? i have the regular 150# i fly now in higher winds and im wondering if i should use my 300# lpg line. any thoughts. i hate trying new stuff out at festivals when everyone is watching but ill hide on the side and play with the new toy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reef Runner Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 150# should be adequate for anything with that set-up................ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kite Shoppe Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 Bringing a 100' tube tail to Lincoln City for you! See you next weekend! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexracer Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 I don't want to hijack this thread, but ever since seeing one of these tube tails in a video, I wanted one. The only dual line I have is an old Premier Ventura (I think?) Which is on the small side (60"?) so I'm looking at the Prism Hypnotist. Would that be a good choice to hang a 100' tube on? Cyphert...Get some video, or at least photo's of you flying that tube! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyphert Posted June 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 ill make videos for sure. ill let you all know what i find out. may be super awesome or a may just stick it on my big delta. either way itll be beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyphert Posted June 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Kite Shoppe takes good care of me! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reef Runner Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Kite Shoppe takes good care of me! Don't forget to take a "stuff sack" for the field................. 100 ft + 10 mph(+) = Frustration (with a capital "F") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexracer Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 How long are the lines you're planning on flying with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyphert Posted July 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Ten mph is frustrating for sure. It sure draws a crowd though. Kids love playing jump rope with it. So does Paul De Bakker. Is was fun at Lincoln city late in the evening. But it was a constant rowing to keep it in the air. Needs probably 15 to be happy. There are no upper wind limits in my world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyphert Posted July 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 I run 150 foot lines to give me some room to play with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexracer Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 I flew my 100' tube tail for the first time the other day. I was on the "stock" (80-85'?) lines that came with my Hypnotist. Had the kite up and the wind was blowing 8-10MPH so I thought I'd give it a try. I did have to pump it to keep the sail loaded at times, but I figure at 12MPH I could fly it without moving back. 15 would be perfect. I do have a 150' set of lines for it, and when I get down to the coast you can be sure they'll come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyphert Posted July 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 How big is your tail? Mine is the 8 in tube. It's a beast I love it but I think a smaller tube for lower wind would be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexracer Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 I bought the 3" gomberg tube tail for sky writing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyphert Posted August 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 That may be nice to have as well a STD and a UL 100 foot tail! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexracer Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Funny you say that. One of the things that suprised me about my tail was the weight of the fabric. It is significantly heavier fabric than the fabric in any of my kites. The tail, along with the very nice attached heavy duty swivel, weigh in at about 360 grams! My Hypnotist flies it well starting at about 10 mph. I can fly it at 8mph but it's work and I have to move around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyphert Posted August 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 I have to pump my arms the whole time I did it for an hour at Lincoln city to let the little ones play with it and to keep people away from the dark side. Not hard to do with a big tail! I may look at just getting a little one. I think I also need to adjust my bridle pulling on the tail just sucks my kite out of the sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexracer Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Yeah, my bridle was set in "light wind" mode. I may get a long ribbon tail for lighter winds. Did you say what kite you were flying it with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexracer Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Maybe 2 50' ribbons and I can put them on my Rev... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dowler Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Maybe 2 50' ribbons and I can put them on my Rev... Done that!! Hooked both to my center loop with another piece of line larksheaded on, using the tails from my Walas! I did use just one, going from tip to tip, but could feel it every time I accelerated!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyphert Posted August 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 i was using my jam session and also trying it with 2 different foils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexracer Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 I want to put up my Hypnotist in 15-20 mph winds and really give that tail a workout, The one time I had it up only the first half of the tail fully inflated. Maybe now that hurricane season is coming... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reef Runner Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 Maybe now that hurricane season is coming... That'll do it.............. , but let's not kid around, with "Mother Nature" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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