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I really hated missing the community kite fly. I also hated the thought of not doing any kite flying at all. Finding Time To Fly

Keep in mind, there are facts and there are opinions. Size, and specifications are the facts. Almost everything else is opinion and has to be weighed against personal preference and experiences. IMO, Kites are kind of like shoes, what fits one person may not work at all for another.. You also will likely outgrow what works today in lieu of something that works better for you tomorrow. You may find a favorite that does EVERYTHING you want only to find that model is no longer manufactured or has been replaced with an "improved" model that may or may not meet your needs. And like shoes, it's all about the proper fit first and opinion and performance take over from there.. That's also why so many of us strongly advise newbies to fly other people's kites first (OPK). You might find the perfect kite for you and even better it might even be for sale on the spot.

That ^^^ ✔️ I'm quite ready to believe that. So here's the rub - you read around to seek advice, and on one site you read that the premier addiction is too twitchy and has loads of oversteer, then on another you find someone like you that really likes it. So much of this is subjective, which means that a kite with consistent though perhaps lukewarm reviews starts to looks like a good bet. I'm looking forward to flying the Quantum. Today will be the second thirteen hour working day in a row, but I'm off tomorrow. The forecast is cold and clear with 4/5mph winds. Maybe I'll get some light wind practice in. Can I say, I'm really enjoying this kite chat. Thanks to everyone who's made me so welcome.

Thats me. Short and very, very wide. 🙃

Six inches and 175 pounds? That's like a 12-foot deep dish pizza, more or less. 😂

In response to your quote - I was just on the Prism website - unless something has changed, they are still in production. Might be harder to find, but still made. After reading other threads - that may be out of production. I see on the Kite Shoppe website, that she has one. Slight sail discoloration and discounted $40.00 USD. Don't know about shipping and taxes, maybe the discount makes up for some of it? She is one of this site's sponsors, look under Ultralight Wind Range to see it. http://www.thekiteshoppe.com/

Regarding the Zephyr. Great low-wind to mid-range-wind kite. If you're just starting out, don't get one unless you plan to leave it in your bag for a year and pull it out when you're ready for it. Any beginner will probably hate it. Unless you are very familiar with how to adjust a dual line sport kite for a specific wind type and speed, you will have it adjusted wrong more than half the time. The kite is designed with inherent instability so it can be tricked well. This will drive you nuts until you gain enough experience. I had one and am telling it the way it is. Eventually I loved it -- but until then . . . . And I'm not even talking about tricking it, just getting it to fly with some control. It has a very small range of compatibility with existing conditions. You need to have it "dead on" or it will cause you grief. Bridle, stand-offs, weight position, and sail tension must all be well-coordinated. You will eventually learn to use all of these adjustments to your advantage if you stay with it. If you think kites may be a temporary passion you're just increasing your level of frustration in what should be pure joy. You don't have to fly as well as a pro to have fun.

You hit the nail on the head. The confusion on kite choices has been 1/2 the fun getting the next one I think LOL I change priorities for the next kite a lot.Sometimes because a excellent deal comes up on a kite I wouldn't think about at this stage. My Addiction came in a package deal. Did not think I'd like it but I do.

Pizza kite

Hmm must look up short and very, very wide kites.

I know, I know, I know. But I didn't. I think you need a cheapie first, otherwise how would you know you've been bitten? You wouldn't just get a burning yearning for a stunt kite one day and go out and drop £100 (or more) on one just to see what it's like. I can see that if you've flown one at a festival or with a friend and you just know you've got to do more of it, then absolutely, the advice to shell out a bit is good - I'm sure it makes learning easier. That certainly holds true with musical instruments. Anyway, I'm building up a little stable. The Symphony for easy, soothing, mindless fun; the Limbo for higher winds, and the newly arrived Quantum for lighter winds and trick practise. That Quantum's a lot of kite. I can't believe the attention to detail and the neat little features, like the ability to adjust the pigtails in the straps to equalise the lines. On the other hand, I'm already starting to wonder if I should have been more ambitious. Oh well. It's my birthday in March. Plenty of time before then to think about what comes next.

I have a Widow NG, and a Prism E2. I really like my E2 using a skybond 85' x 100# lineset, but i have read alot of negative feedback about the E3 for some reason. I think the E3 went to a heavier frame to make it stronger and that changed the feel. The Prism Hypnotist has a Quantum pro sail, with a regular Quantum frame. So the frame is stronger and heavier for beginner crashes. There seems to be some negative opinions about the Hypnotist for some reason, which is wierd since the Quantum, and Quantum pro generally get positive feedback other than the weight of the quantum. I read where someone put a quantum pro frame in a hypnotist sail and was ok with it. Seems like i read that the quantum pro is more of a precise tracking team type of kite. Which sounds like fun.