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Yes! I like to see that 🙂

I've been waiting for this question... 😂 Short answer, no. Kite Forge doesn't make "products" or "toys" for consumer use... Everything we make (and will make) fits specifically into use scenarios for me, Brett or our other house pilots, and the little quad kites just don't perform in any circumstance in such a way that is of any use to me (severe lack of natural precision) - no desire for a "wheeeee!" kite in the bag, we're all "drivers" or work directly with an incoming class of pilot (teaching skills). The next items on the white board, in no particular order or timing... Djinndoor (0-4 indoor / outdoor quad) Full size dual line focused on balance of team / precision and tricks Beginner quad line (same great performance, lower price point by way of material quality and reduced build details) Beginner dual line line kite Indoor single line glider Kite bag Dogstake unit Truly, all designed to fill out our own quivers very specifically, then made available to those who connect with the same things or needs that we do. 🙏🏻

While it's not in line with everyone, I hope the razor sharp intent and principle is coming through loud and clear.

I'm going to be painfully honest here... The "redesign" involved in both the B-Series and B2 were minimal, ultimately minor changes to the panel layout and curve of the leading edge... Sure it helped performance some, but I was never allowed much leeway in the end result other than aesthetics, Rev is a "kite company" and with all kite companies, most of their product entries are to stimulate that next wave of sales, not toward a "mean reason" on its own, takes "everyday pilots" to go there - it's the very reason I'm where I am today, to be able to actually apply all of the refinements we've developed and learned about. And this too is valid! But we'll leave it to other companies to produce these "fun" kites that don't have any true sport application or that don't further the true evolution of our pastime... To be enjoyed by a quite a few for sure, but that just ain't my bag - that's why you'll be able to trust everything we produce to be at a certain level, in every way.

@John BarresiFWIW, Your B2 video is what got me into quad Sport kites personally. Before that I was all power kites..

1. How dare you. 2. WHEEEEEEEE kites are the best!!!! 3. Love yoooooooooo 🪁🤣

Hey John, I assumed that your redesign of the Rev 2 was a labor of love. Did you consider this project as only to broaden the customer base? Many people seem to love and enjoy it.

Trying to backflip into turtle I've over rotated a number of times and I've got some questions about this configuration. First of all I've been flying my ITW swift when winds are right and sitting on my hands when the winds are too strong until I get parts in for my Kymera. The Swift doesn't have yo-yo stoppers. Does this mean I can't shouldn't roll the kite up or is it just less ideal? Would it be wise to get yo-yo stoppers for it? I've also noticed the lines digging into the trailing edge of the sail. Is this bad or am I worrying about nothing. Most importantly, what is the most beginner friendly way to fly out of a roll-up type scenario?

Well, the Swift is probably too light and flexible to make a good trick kite (yo yos, etc)... 1 - When the kite fully wraps up, the line around it creates compression (requiring some stiffness in the frame to sustain), and the lines can abrade the trailing (or leading) edge material if it's not "rated" or reinforced for this type of use... No guarantee the Swift can't handle it, but I know it wouldn't have been specifically designed for it. 2 - There is also the issue of weight... In order to flip the kite (yo yo), a little weight / inertia is needed, and the Swift is pretty light, so if you do try adding stoppers, you might also need to add some weight (5-15 grams) to the tail to facilitate rotation. That being said... The SKY IS THE LIMIT, yo yo stoppers are cheap and a pretty easy, harmless install... No reason you can't try it, long as you have your wits about you and listen to the kite as you experiment... I've tried all sorts of weird with kites, much of it absolutely ridiculous - all of it fun and educational. Did you know... Almost every slack line trick (like the yo yo) started as a mistake that someone managed to repeat and perfect? == As for getting out of a roll up... Remember the compression I described above, and it's potential to "crush" the kite... If you've got the kite rolled up and you're flying, the simplest and safest way out is to head straight up with your hands pulled down closer to your hips... Once you feel the pull reduce slightly, push your hands toward the kite, then let them drop back to your sides. What should happen, is the kite's nose will lean back slightly for a second, then come toward you, initiating the actual unroll. == You can also fly high up, turn the kite so you're flying down, then do the same thing... Soft push out (kite goes into pancake), then hands back to unroll... Trick with this is to remember, you'll be headed straight down and be loaded up coming out this way - so make sure you do this whole thing fairly high up, and be ready to turn away before you hit the ground. And another... You can also do a ground pass, turn up slightly (rise 4-5 feet, nose at roughly 45 degrees up), then use the same hand motions to unroll onto a single wing tip or 2-point landing. == Some good references... Awesome tutorial https://vimeo.com/25435954 A different sort of roll up, very weird... https://vimeo.com/25164167 == I do love my rollups... == Pretty soon, if you're not careful, you'll be flailing like this. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1233727007467&set=vb.1357938423