--Pete

Let me know when you are going to try it, and I will send good thoughts - peaceful images of you gliding along safely.

I've broken a 500# line, at least once, when I was well dug-in, leaning way back (almost horizontal, but only my heels touching the ground), and braced, when a wind gust hit as the kite (10' Flexi) was going through the power band. The line broke as I was being lifted (forced suddenly) vertical. You can get some amazing pulls from kites. The first time I stacked my 13 Rainbows, I took them through the power band and had more than 10 (out of 72) 200# clips in the train lines pull themselves out straight. Now THAT was a mess to straighten out: 13 kites (each with a long ribbon tail), plus half of the trainlines detatched (a few I never found). I had to remake 36 identical (sleeved and tuned for length) trainlines. (That was where I learned to be efficient in measuring, sleeving, and looping linesets.)

No, no. He's on the road during those dates, including a pass through TJ. I expect to see him in Grand Haven, MI May 20-22. But by all means, think good thoughts for John when he goes in for dental work toward the end of his road trip.

Right on the money Jeep, that's a pretty rock solid "suggested" order. Although of course, different personalities will tend to be more interested in one thing over another. Bottom line, FUN, INTERESTING... If it ain't either of those, there's no point - right? Right! Thank you. I'm changing my filenames to IRT-xx-subject so they will sort together and then in order. Also, so that I can see the subject in a file list that truncates after 10-15 characters. The regular Rev Tutorials (that I have so far) will become RT-xx-subject. (I may actually use a real "xx" until I decide on some sort of order for those.)

Well, that USED to be my style. My favorites were kites like 10' Flexifoils in 20+ mph winds, Hawaiian Team Kites, Big stacks and the like. They didn't pull me around much because I've always been heavy enough to anchor them, but I've definitely been knocked down a few times. I'm considering a more gentle style for the future; I even got a vented Rev. Never would have let even a scrap of available wind get away in the old days. Time to retire my 500# Kevlar™ line-sets, maybe?

I know John has said (apparently elsewhere) that people should watch these in different orders at different times, since each will set the viewer up for information in the other tutorials. Still, it seems that there might be a logical order to watch them the FIRST time. I have tentatively ordered the first three: Intro; Assembly; and Launch, but from there, I'm stumped.

Yay, Scott! Keep on keeping on, photomom. --Pete Sent from Pete's iPad using Tapatalk

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Looks like I'll have to take my chances along with all the rest of the "one number" gang.

Might be difficult (except for my legendary lock-picking skills) since the walls are either 12" thick reinforced concrete or 12" cinderblock with 3/4" rerod cemented into every other cavity column. (Testing the Tapatalk forum app on my iPad. It's slow, but if you can see this, it works.)

That, of course, is in the wine cellar, of which you speak so lightly. (And whatever you may think, **I** am not on top of a case. **I** have a chair.)

Reason 1) You are too busy flying Revs. Reason 2) It takes twice as many kites with Dualies to get the same number of LINES in the sky as with Revs, and they are just getting too heavy in the kite bag. (I KNOW this is true; I have about 30 dualies myself.) Reason 3) You never get any rest with dualies; like sharks, they must move forward or die. Reason 4) Colorizer? Not this kite - its colors are FIXED! Reason 5) Bikini lifts? With a Dualie, I doubt it. Reason 6) Line-sets. Only two lines to match? Trivial! Where's the fun in that? Reason 7) You might have to resign from RevGuild. Reason 8) It's too much trouble to lay out a 4-line set; remove 2 lines temporarily: and then put them back together (only to discover that now 2 of them have stretched). Reason 9) You are so used to typing "Rev" when you mean "kite" that your ability to be active in forums might be compromised. Reason 10) You KNOW you don't need another dualie, because you have been forced to ask for reasons not to get another. ("Help me! Don't let me dual again!")

I hate to see this remain unanswered. Diamonds are hard to "train" because the proper place to attach the train lines is not a good place to hook up to. People going for altitude records often tie a long leader from each intermediate kite to the main flight line, but this is not generally considered a train. If the intermediate kites are not actually flying (lifting), I have seen rigs where the main line just goes through at the intersection of the spars, with a larger top kite doing all the lifting. None of these seems to be what you are asking for, however.

Of course not. You need both hands to fly a Rev. You must land the kite to drink. Then you can fly again.

I'm sure this is a typo, as the vertical spars of a Rev most certainly go on the back, side furthest from you when you're flying, the side on which the logo appears reversed. It's a common mistake to put the sticks on the front, I know I did when I bought my first Rev in 1991. I've fixed the original. Not a typo - a real senior moment. I was thinking about the wrong way to do it and somehow typed it in that way. And Duane - no, I haven't been flying them that way, because THEY JUST WON'T FLY WITH THE SPARS IN FRONT. They get all "balloony" and you can't control them.

There were either seven of us and six wines, or six of us and seven wines. At any rate there were 42 glasses on that table. I had brought a Seghesio Omaggio, which I think is one of the world's best Cal-Ital wines, but it was blown away by a Caymus Cab. This is a loose and shifting gang of guys who like wine, and have some serious wines in their cellars. We get together every year or so, and try to impress each other. Sometimes we get to taste some pretty great wines. We hope to have another meet this summer. I HAVE to get my cellar organized and find a serious bottle to bring. BTW, anyone who is interested: I have my cellar inventoried at cellartracker.com as user "pwm". You can have a look if you are interested in (mostly) northern Italian red wines. (And a few Ports and Rhone blends.) I'll bring a few interesting bottles to Grand Haven. (Just to keep the topic having SOMETHING to do with kites.)

BTW, in spite of how spars go on many kinds of kites, the vertical spars go in BACK (AWAY from the side of the kite that faces you) on Revs. Counter-intuitive, but true. Many of us have done it wrong at first; you might as well get off to a good start. EDIT: UNDERLINED CAPS are the edited portion. (Senior moment, I guess.)

Well, sometimes you just relax: ...and sometimes you have to get serious:

Spent all afternoon in the wine cellar. Discovered I had drunk (with some help from my friends) nearly 500 bottles of wine since my last "hard" (actually look at each bottle and compare it to the list) inventory. Still there are about that many bottles left, PLUS the 20 or so cases that I now have to add to the inventory. (I've been slacking on data entry for a while.) And I'm still slacking on getting my line making underway. I have most of the materials, but haven't laid out exactly how to put everything in a logical order, get it properly photographed, and posted.

Concerning detangling: While reading this topic and a similar one on the rev forum, it occurred to me that advice to not LET kite lines get tangled doesn't give much help to someone searching out these topics AFTER they have found themselves with a mare's nest. If you have a ball of horribly tangled line sitting in front of you, here is a tool that may help if you actually have to pull ends out of loops (untie knots that have not been drawn up tight, or that have already been loosened with needles or dental picks). It is called a Netting Needle, and they can be carved out of a bit of thin, flat wood, or purchased commercially. A good size for detangling kite-line would be about 1/2 to one inch wide (12-25 mm) and 10-12 inches long (25-30 cm). Since much kiting is done near a coast, a Marine supply , especially one catering to commercial fishermen) will likely have these in stock. Also online; google { netting needle }. Normally, you load it up with line and use it to move a bunch of line quickly through the meshes of the net as you tie the knots at the intersections. For detangling kite lines, you would lark's-head the end of the line to the center pin and push the needle through the tangle BACK ALONGSIDE the line you have attached to it. When you get a few feet of free line, you wind it onto the netting needle: from the pin you pass the line through the U and up the other side; then slip a loop over the pin; and back down through the U; up the other side; and so on. This solves the problem caused when you are pulling a long free end through the tangle and it pulls some OTHER loop tight. Passing the netting needle through the tangle should actually help keep it loose. You can get very fast with this.

Oh, yeah - disposable. Maybe that's why I couldn't find an old "ad hoc" sleeving needle to photograph. They were all disposed of after use.

You don't really need a commercially-made sleeving needle. Any fine wire, bent into a long narrow loop will work. I strip a length of #22 to #26 gauge copper wire from a bit of telephone or computer-network cable when I'm not near my regular set of kite tools. It doesn't really have to be as stiff as the steel music wire usually made into sleeving needles.

An even BETTER solution. Wish I'd thought of it.

Knot out? Good job! Needles are good, especially to give you some "elbow room" without breaking fibers. Discarded dental picks (not scrapers, but the really thin ones - ask your dentist to save you one or two) are almost as good, but tend to have funny shapes. If you have a set of really small drills, you can mount a needle in the end of a dowel to make a permanent tool, but be sure to make a cap for it. A mounted needle can really jab you if it has a handle to back it up.