Tmadz Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Sunday I was flying a B series std sail and the wind was transitioning to vented territory. The wind buffeted rather than gusted because it seemed like a peak then suddenly a trough. Anyway, my right upper larks head knot popped off the bridle. I never heard of this happening before. When I set my lines I always check to make sure they're set properly. So my question is has anyone had this happen with lines of any type? I was using 90# with 100# sleeving I believe. It is a well used line set, but no problems with it to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reved Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Twice when changing kites, I put the larks head on a little fast. Instead of having the LH before the bridle knot, I ended up putting it over the bridle knot. Sort of half on each side of the knot. It slipped off right away. Now I go I bit slower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystainedskin Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 I have had issues with the stock sized sleeving before. ..doing exactly as described. I now use a fairly thin and small diameter hollow core dacron 80#. Problem solved ...except for the occasional rush job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dowler Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 On sets I make, I use 100# bridle line with the core removed as sleeving! Only time I ever had an issue was on a light bridled SUL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reved Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 The bridle on my B2 is a thinner line than the 1.5s. One day when flying in crazy wind, the lines slipped thru the knots in the sleeving on my home made 100' 50# Skybond lineset. It got all scrunched up and came very close to slipping over the tiny B2 bridle knot. I switched to a heavier bridle and smaller sleeving on the linesets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Txscout Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 I have always feared that happening, especially when I first got into sport kites, but have never heard of it happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dowler Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 The bridle on my B2 is a thinner line than the 1.5s. One day when flying in crazy wind, the lines slipped thru the knots in the sleeving on my home made 100' 50# Skybond lineset. It got all scrunched up and came very close to slipping over the tiny B2 bridle knot. I switched to a heavier bridle and smaller sleeving on the linesets. Didn't know that the bridle was of a different line!!?? I'm going to the coast and see one at a shop there, I'll have to check it out!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystainedskin Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 The bridle on my B2 is a thinner line than the 1.5s. One day when flying in crazy wind, the lines slipped thru the knots in the sleeving on my home made 100' 50# Skybond lineset. It got all scrunched up and came very close to slipping over the tiny B2 bridle knot. I switched to a heavier bridle and smaller sleeving on the linesets. it almost sounds as if your line slid in the sleeving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reved Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Flying the B2 in 20-30+ really tested the limits of the linesets and showed the weak points. I'm always flying std quads in wind that I shouldn't. I broke rods on my 1.5 B's several times. An addiction to speed at this stage of learning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkieRob Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 I've checked my B2, the bridle is the same size as my 1.5B's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reved Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 This is the only B2 I have, so I've got no comparison. The bridle that came with it measured ~.036". And the B Pro and SLE bridle measures ~.051". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkieRob Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Wow! My SLE and EXP have the flattish white bridle but my B's and B2 have the round grey bridle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dowler Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I had noticed the dif in EXP bridles, but none in the 1.5 regular kites! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reef Runner Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I got three B2's and a Rev II, and all the bridles seem to be the same as my 1.5's ?? Oh, I never had a lark's head to fail. I would bet you just didn't have it completely behind the knot, or didn't cinch it up snug, before take-off. That's a pretty reliable method, for attaching your lines to the bridle. The harder it gets pulled, the tighter it gets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Only ever seen this happen for one of two reasons in my 24 years... 1 - custom bridle with smaller line (and knots) 2 - missed larks head (just loop hanging on knot) You'd be surprised how long it's stayed on with #2 before popping off. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dowler Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Been there - done that loop thing!! Didn't even notice til I switched kites!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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