Loose larkshead

[Tmadz]

Sunday I was flying a B series std sail and the wind was transitioning to vented territory. The wind buffeted rather than gusted because it seemed like a peak then suddenly a trough. Anyway, my right upper larks head knot popped off the bridle. I never heard of this happening before. When I set my lines I always check to make sure they're set properly.

So my question is has anyone had this happen with lines of any type? I was using 90# with 100# sleeving I believe. It is a well used line set, but no problems with it to date.

[Reved]

Twice when changing kites, I put the larks head on a little fast. Instead of having the LH before the bridle knot, I ended up putting it over the bridle knot. Sort of half on each side of the knot.

It slipped off right away. Now I go I bit slower.

[mystainedskin]

I have had issues with the stock sized sleeving before. ..doing exactly as described. I now use a fairly thin and small diameter hollow core dacron 80#. Problem solved ...except for the occasional rush job

[Wayne Dowler]

On sets I make, I use 100# bridle line with the core removed as sleeving! Only time I ever had an issue was on a light bridled SUL!

[Reved]

The bridle on my B2 is a thinner line than the 1.5s. One day when flying in crazy wind, the lines slipped thru the knots in the sleeving on my home made 100' 50# Skybond lineset. It got all scrunched up and came very close to slipping over the tiny B2 bridle knot. I switched to a heavier bridle and smaller sleeving on the linesets.

[Txscout]

I have always feared that happening, especially when I first got into sport kites, but have never heard of it happening.

[Wayne Dowler]

The bridle on my B2 is a thinner line than the 1.5s. One day when flying in crazy wind, the lines slipped thru the knots in the sleeving on my home made 100' 50# Skybond lineset. It got all scrunched up and came very close to slipping over the tiny B2 bridle knot. I switched to a heavier bridle and smaller sleeving on the linesets.

Didn't know that the bridle was of a different line!!?? I'm going to the coast and see one at a shop there, I'll have to check it out!!

[mystainedskin]

The bridle on my B2 is a thinner line than the 1.5s. One day when flying in crazy wind, the lines slipped thru the knots in the sleeving on my home made 100' 50# Skybond lineset. It got all scrunched up and came very close to slipping over the tiny B2 bridle knot. I switched to a heavier bridle and smaller sleeving on the linesets.

it almost sounds as if your line slid in the sleeving?

[Reved]

Flying the B2 in 20-30+ really tested the limits of the linesets and showed the weak points. I'm always flying std quads in wind that I shouldn't. I broke rods on my 1.5 B's several times. An addiction to speed at this stage of learning.

[SparkieRob]

I've checked my B2, the bridle is the same size as my 1.5B's.

[Reved]

This is the only B2 I have, so I've got no comparison. The bridle that came with it measured ~.036". And the B Pro and SLE bridle measures ~.051".

[SparkieRob]

Wow! My SLE and EXP have the flattish white bridle but my B's and B2 have the round grey bridle.

[Wayne Dowler]

I had noticed the dif in EXP bridles, but none in the 1.5 regular kites!

[Reef Runner]

I got three B2's and a Rev II, and all the bridles seem to be the same as my 1.5's ??

Oh, I never had a lark's head to fail. I would bet you just didn't have it completely behind the knot, or didn't cinch it up snug, before take-off. That's a pretty reliable method, for attaching your lines to the bridle. The harder it gets pulled, the tighter it gets.

[John Barresi]

Only ever seen this happen for one of two reasons in my 24 years...

1 - custom bridle with smaller line (and knots)

2 - missed larks head (just loop hanging on knot)

You'd be surprised how long it's stayed on with #2 before popping off.

[Wayne Dowler]

Been there - done that loop thing!! Didn't even notice til I switched kites!!