Frankieflyin Posted September 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Yep, video needs to be opened to the public - your fans await! YES my fans await. all 2 of em! hahah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankieflyin Posted September 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Video is private ? not any more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankieflyin Posted September 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 people always tell me when i go fishing "good luck". My reply is always "who needs luck when you have talent". I hope the same applies with my flying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankieflyin Posted September 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Please share your thoughts people. We are all friends[emoji12] Sent from my GT-S7275T using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankieflyin Posted September 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 The silence is killing me. Is that a good or bad thing? Sent from my GT-S7275T using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makatakam Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Looking really good in that vid, and your one-handed is awesome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankieflyin Posted September 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Thanks. Mmmmm..... people are very quiet. honestly thought I would get more feedback Sent from my GT-S7275T using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 We get hot and cold days on the forum, most post in waves. That was my favorite video of yours so far. I'd still suggest checking out the longer top leaders on the handles. Stock 1.5 handles are basically stuck in drive and you have to reach WAY down to get the brakes, this also causes wind to spill too easily off the trailing edge. Lengthening the top lines is equivalent to trimming a sail on a boat, capturing more pressure, making the boat / kite go faster. Extend them TOO far, then of course, your get a stop or reverse in direction. All about tuning and balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankieflyin Posted September 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 I tried lengthing top lines. Seemed to struggle. However wind was very light. Might try again tomorrow Sent from my GT-S7275T using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankieflyin Posted September 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 I tried adjustment on last video. Went back to equal length lines. Struggled with it. Maybe just need to get used to it Sent from my GT-S7275T using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankieflyin Posted September 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Why was that your favorite? Better standard of flying or because of variety? Perhaps because it was unedited Sent from my GT-S7275T using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankieflyin Posted September 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 This whole talk of adjustments on leaders. Im so confused. [emoji25] So you want a longer top line. Correct. I have my lines on furthest knot from handles. So if I bring the bottom in one knot. That's the same isn't it?. See what I mean I can't think I'm confused. Think I'm tired. Going to bed. Gotta get up early. Need to get to bondi early if I want a parking spot Sent from my GT-S7275T using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dowler Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Try reading this: http://www.revkites.com/forum/topic/4409-my-leaders-your-thoughts/ It has pix and some explanation. The theory is to have a longer top set of leaders, allowing for more adjustments. Notice the knots on top? Factory leaders are short, creating massive drive, but no control. Having the ability to adjust the tops, lets you take advantage of what conditions you face. Many of us fly on a knot some 6"-7" away from the top of the handle and 1"-2" at the bottom. It's not the distance that counts - but the differential between the top and bottom lengths! Example #1 - you could be using the knot 6" out on top, but using a knot 4" out on bottom, That equals only a 2" difference. Example #2 - you use the same knot on top, 6" out and have the bottom 2" out. That equals a difference of 4". Set the bottom at 1" and the difference is 5". Factory handles use the same leaders top and bottom - at least the SLE + EXP do, the "B" series has extended leaders. But even they aren't as long as most of us would like! So we make our own and can customize them to our own specific feel. PS: yes - you can pull in the bottoms and do the same. Depends on how long the tops are and how short you are willing to attach the bottoms to the handle. Clear as mud?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkieRob Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 I'll preface this with the fact I fly very brake heavy... A sail will be, in relation to the wind, how you tilt it with the handles. Handle top rotated towards kite puts the top behind the bottom. Handle top rotated away from the kite puts the top in front of the bottom. Short or long leaders, the kite rotation determines drive/reverse. By lengthening your top lines you are effectively reducing the amount of drive rotation you can input. BUT. You are putting your sail squarer to the wind and create the maximum amount of surface area presented to the wind. With the sail at "max size to the wind" only a small amount of drive combined with a slight amount of #whump compresses the sail and creates drive until you stop it. However, with longer top lines means you can effectively give a greater amount of reverse input. Be careful of that. If your handles are the standard 13's you can try this one thing to give extra brake. Take the bottom leaders off the hog clips and larks head them to the last knot on your tops. Attach your bottom lines directly to the hog clips like you would with dualie straps. Attach your top lines to the last (furthest away from your handles) and try to launch inverted. If you can't launch, bring your top lines in to the next knot and try again. It will feel a little strange. It will take a bit of getting used to. Give it a try for at least 15 minutes. If you don't like it, put everything back. Not everybody flies with a lot of brake. Sometimes it's taxing on their wrists. But try it and see. Clearer as muddier?? PM me you phone number and I'll talk you through. ;-) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makatakam Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 If you come across any other Rev flyers at Bondi, check how their handles and leaders are set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankieflyin Posted September 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Ok. Fresh day. Had a read of everything. Had fly and tried different settings. It makes me so confused. It must be the way my brain doesn't work. Lines are equal. Pigtails on handles are equal. I brought top one knot closer to handles which effectively makes top lines longer, hence slouched handles. I Flew ok. Had to give more whump to stay in the air. But feels like I've lost brake. Axles were crazy. Easier to axle because not as much brake. Am I correct in what im saying? However I did notice that my style changed and had to do the jb dance so to speak. Think I just worked out something. Now what you are saying about being slouched. It all depends on wind strength. Am I right??????[emoji30] Sent from my GT-S7275T using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankieflyin Posted September 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 If you come across any other Rev flyers at Bondi, check how their handles and leaders are set up.If there was another rev flyer I'd know them.But people here are saying that it is personal preference to adjustment Sent from my GT-S7275T using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkieRob Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Top knot closer to handles makes your top lines shorter. Most have bottom lines very close to the handles and the top lines connected about 6-8-10 inches from the handles. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankieflyin Posted September 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Well I try that then . Thanks. Sent from my GT-S7275T using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dowler Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Remember - your lines are what they are - let's say 30'. The only way to make them longer? ADD to them. Example: Bottom is attached 2" from handle end = 30'2" Tops are say 6" away from handle end = 30'6" or 4" of difference, tops to bottoms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankieflyin Posted September 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Just can't find a happy place. That explanation Rob is exactly what I'm saying. Think I get it. I tried that setting. Felt ok but in dive stop ran out of brake if that makes sense. When I had that setting I had to dance like jb. Felt mad. But struggled to keep it up in lighter winds. Winds were very variable today. My axles were insane. Feels like your flying rev from top of handles if that makes sense. Unbelievable axles. The flattest ever and I wasn't even trying. I couldn't fly it unless I done the jb dance if that makes sense. Im really mentally drained from big day in sun. Im not in a happy place. I'm so confused. Think I'm gonna use other set of handles which I have about 12 inches of Pigtails. Set it like everyone is saying. Longer Pigtails on top. Furthest from handles. Bottom In close to handles. Shorter Pigtails . I just can not believe how much changing setting just to what everyone is saying ie longer top, changed my complete dance if that makes sense to people or am I just talking sh*t. Sorry everyone But yes with top longer did give rev completely different feel. Just because winds were so variable I felt like I had to always give whomp whomp to keep it up Is that the edge you need to be at for maximum control. I was amazed how easily i performed a near flat axle with ease. Is that the happy place???????? Please reply . Top knot closer to handles makes your top lines shorter. Most have bottom lines very close to the handles and the top lines connected about 6-8-10 inches from the handles. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Sent from my GT-S7275T using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkieRob Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Fly it to feel, it has to feel right to you. I still get different set ups a try, just to see. If you give the "other" settings a go and don't like them, go back. First and foremost flying should be fun. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dowler Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Remember there is no one place on the leaders for everyone. But it should feel different with longer top leaders - think golf. Hardest thing to make change? Grip on club. Feel!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makatakam Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Yep, and remember that it's always a compromise unless you encounter "perfect" wind. Plan for the lulls in variable winds, and make minor adjustments from there. Move your hands up and/or down on the handles to find the balance point, which changes with wind speed, including gusts and "holes". Again, there is compromise here, as you settle into the average best location. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkieRob Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Just saw on FB that you (Frankieflying) did an awesome job at the FOTW. On the Indoor-a-like when the wind was gone, up and down the beach. Playing to the crowd when the wind was there. Way to go mate! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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