John Barresi Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 UPDATE: We are no longer offering these upgrade services, but hopefully this topic will serve to assist folks who do their own upgrades in the future. šš» == Extend the durability,Ā lifespan and performance of your 1.5 sized Revolution kite (includes EXP,Ā SLE, B-Series, B-Pro, printed sails, etc) with tab reinforcements along the length of your leading edge mesh - the exact same mods I make to my own own equipment, they are now available to other fliers upon request. Over 30 sails worked on so far! These mods will not prevent mesh tears entirely, but will make the kite more stable, reduce damage andĀ ensure that your kite maintains it's important flight shape for much longer than normal. Ordering notes: All sails should be folded and sentĀ without frames. Return shipping is included during check out, we pack and mail the sails via USPS Priority Mail flat rate box (US customers only), $13.45 covers shipping for up to 1-4 sails, $18.45 for 5-8 sails. All apparent dirt and sand should be cleaned out of the kitesĀ before sending (not good for our sewing machine) andĀ a $10 cleaning fee will apply to each sail that we need to clean ourselves. Ā 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkieRob Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 I'll be taking you up on this. Get my kites all ready for summer. Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted August 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 We'll have to put heads together on shipping, let me know when you're ready via PM and we'll set you up... The cart doesn't have LE tab shipping configured for international yet.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkieRob Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 Will do. Probably do ALL my revs in one hit to mitigate the postage. Will be in September as I've got a kite fest end of August. Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclic Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 I had John do all of my pros. Ā He did a great job on them. Ā I'm going to have him do Kari's after WSIKF, and some of my older production Revs. Ā 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitedad Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Hi, I have two brand new kites, not revs, but, you know, the other rev, the [F] rev, maybe its not worth it for these kites but I thought i'd look into it. Its for my boy [23] who's new to quads and I think he'd really appreciate having it done.Ā Were going to WSIKF and am thinking of giving the kites toĀ Mr.B around the end of the fest if he'll do it., it will save some postage and some time. Looks like a very nice job. I have a sewing machine but have large fingers like tootsie rolls made of butter. Just having him sign the kite would be worth the money. So everyone knows, it's for my boy, I don't fly btw, he breaks em, I crate em. IĀ haven't made up my mind to do it yet but since there's some timeĀ left.......Ā Ā Maybe some feedback is what I'm looking for. btw, checking Ocean shoresĀ kites website, andy has all his b-series on sale for 199. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycosa Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 I'm definitely looking to have this done on my new Rev B. Is there a general idea of turnaround time for this service in the coming weeks? I'd like to send it in sooner than later but I'm not sure what your schedules are like. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted August 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Good question, I totally should have updated with a current turnaround given the fact I'm currently at WSIKF...Ā Work will resume on Wednesday, working timeĀ is usually 2-4 days (+ transit). Thanks for your interest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted September 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Added wear strips and trailing edge modĀ to the shop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted September 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 This is exactly why I treasure my LE tabs...My Pro STD, you can see the mesh has broken down along the majority of the LE but the tabs keep the sail in place so my airfoil doesn't go to crap. Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikelp3586 Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 John is that a go pro mounted? Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted September 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Nope, kite in hand and shot with iPhone 6.Ā That'd be more like this... Ā 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikelp3586 Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 [emoji106] I've been thinking about playing around with mine here soon !Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makatakam Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 10 hours ago, John Barresi said: This is exactly why I treasure my LE tabs... My Pro STD, you can see the mesh has broken down along the majority of the LE but the tabs keep the sail in place so my airfoil doesn't go to crap. Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app Might as well just lose all of the remaining mesh. That should make the kite fly faster in reverse. At this point it only adds weight and blocks air flow. If you don't want to lose the momentum the existing mass offers, the upright tubes can be "strategically" weighted at the lower tips, to increase glide ratio at the same time. Weighting the lower tips of the uprights should also make axels a bit flatter. Can be a win/win/win combination. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Jenkins Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Obviously the LE reinforcement tabs is a very good idea. Of course,Ā this got me thinking...... Ā seeing how we have probably 6 sewing machines in the house (my wife quilts, need I say more). About twoĀ weeks ago I was with my wife in the local Jo-AnnĀ FabricĀ store and I started looking for something suitable to use for reinforcement tabs. The only thing I could find that looked about right was some black 1" wide nylon strapping, like you might use for straps on a bag. OK, now the big question. Is this the type of material used when you do the LE mods, or are you using some super fantastic, limited production substance that's onlyĀ available to individuals with at least a dozen World Championships to their credit? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted September 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Simple nylon grosgrain. Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted January 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Just finished work on an older Nylon SLE sail for @zachprism01Ā from the Karma drawing - got this in the nick of time, it was already starting to show stress marks on the sail along the verticals (which lead to sail rips if left unsupported)... Also, the single stitch trailing edge with Nylon stretches way more and causes the trailing edge to actually scallop inward and recede. Nylon is way more flexible and porous (water absorption), so it especially benefits from some extra love. Finished with wear strips, LE tabs and the 2nd trailing edge stitch: Ā Ā 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makatakam Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 On 8/1/2016 at 3:58 PM, John Barresi said: Also available, wear strips and a second trading edge stitch - all the same mods I do to my own factory Revs. Ā "Trading edge"? -- oops, edit time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkieRob Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Geez, looking at the pics. My revs need a service!Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted May 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 I currently have 13 B-Series sails on my work table for mods and it's simply amazing the degree of manufacturing inconsistency from sail to sail... So much so that it's literally impossible to pre-cut or use a template for wear strips since every wing is a different length or panels joining up differently. in addition, the thread they use is quite a bit weaker than what I'm using (Guterman's)... All that aside, it truly warms my heart to be giving all these sails new, robust lives ahead of them. /rant 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted May 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Note, I do run the wear strips through the venting for full vertical support... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted May 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 2nd trailing edge stitch going in... Not only stronger outright, but it specifically preserves the trailing edge shape (stopping stretch and deformation), giving better control and durability both. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whtmtn Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 A couple of ?'s The first is would these upgrades apply to B2's as well? And second will you be in Long Beach all week? I'm trying to make it this year, and I'd leave my sails with you. After the fest of course! Sent from my LGMS631 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whtmtn Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 Side note, the last and only time I went was '95. life changing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makatakam Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 8 hours ago, whtmtn said: Side note, the last and only time I went was '95. life changing Shouldn't wait that long. Bad for the bladder and kidneys.Ā Ā Seriously though, these upgrades are excellent for any kite that has a leading edge mesh and will fly in reverse, regardless of size. The second stitch in the trailing edge improves reverse flight. It increases stability and speed. Not so much noticeable to a beginner, but eventually everyone canĀ tell the difference. When I first tried it, after many years without, I was amazed. It should be standard on all models. It is literally two minutes of additional labor to do the trailing edge. The improvements to the leading edge mesh would be more time consuming, and probably increase the price of the kite by five to ten percent. I would pay the difference gladly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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