HectorHerr Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 I Just came back from my trip in Guatemala! There was no wind at all any where... I had a chance to fly my Guatemalan kite in a town 3 hour away from the city. Everything else was just beatifull, my daughters and wife had plenty of fun and we are back in bussiness, school, job search etc, etc,... My question goes to John Barresi (Lee Sedwick too) who is (are) real pros at dogstakes flying technicks.: I am going to try flying my flat kite with dogstakes but I can sense that steel is to coarse for the lines, in other words they feel too tight and may damage the lines easily, what do you use? is there a place where we can buy special made dogstakes for kite flying? or do make them yourself? Thanks guys. Hector Herrera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REVflyer Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 you need ceramic rings that the lines pass thru, the rings are angled towards each other so the string only touches the ceramic portion. (you need two of them!) I bought fishing tackle rings and used an half circular shaped bolt with 2 part epoxy as the adhesive. The lines will still have some resistance, but it's much less than just hookin' around a dog stake! Somewhere John has a diagram I prepared that lists the parts, I've just not gotten around to an actual photograph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristan Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 I wonder if it is posible to do dogstake with a dual line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Here is the thread Paul is referring to: http://kitelife.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=637 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant man Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 i tried dogstake flying for the first time today with my 1.5 i had it up for a while but i couldnt do anything fancy like in the john B video but ill get there hopefully john if your watchin killer video it looked eazy until i tried it the worst part was that people were watching me and i wasnt doing it good at all next time im going to a place where noone is at until i get good then i will go public with the fall season ill have plent of closed beach to do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backspin23 Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 yes you can do it with a dual line, I've done it once, it's weird. you can dogstake any kite I would imagine, even a single line, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant man Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 a dual line dogstake routine i just want to get good at it with either dual or quad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HectorHerr Posted August 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 you need ceramic rings that the lines pass thru, the rings are angled towards each other so the string only touches the ceramic portion. (you need two of them!)I bought fishing tackle rings and used an half circular shaped bolt with 2 part epoxy as the adhesive. The lines will still have some resistance, but it's much less than just hookin' around a dog stake! Somewhere John has a diagram I prepared that lists the parts, I've just not gotten around to an actual photograph. Thank you REVflyer, and to all the others who help, us, rookies, get better at kite flying. This week end I will be at some fishing tacke store buying those rings. I hope that next year, we'll see each other in Huntington Beach again. Yours Hector Herrera "The Guatemalan Kiteflyer".- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristan Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 yes you can do it with a dual line, I've done it once, it's weird. you can dogstake any kite I would imagine, even a single line, lol Thanks JD I will try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Great to hear you are still flying Hector, we'll try to be at Kite Party next year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kite Shoppe Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Off the cuff, John can improvise. I've seen him fly a dual line in a parking lot, using a light pole instead of the dog stake. Stopped people in their tracks, trying to figure out what the heck he was doing. One guy was in his 18 wheeler rig, got out and came over for a chat. Darndest thing he'd ever seen. T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penny Lingenfelter Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Dog Staking~ You can use the rope on the field too. Indoors use the hoop, or volley ball pole to dog stake off of inside. Connect up high indoors. BB Penny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristan Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Dog Staking~ You can use the rope on the field too. Indoors use the hoop, or volley ball pole to dog stake off of inside. Connect up high indoors. BB Penny Cool I will try that sometime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 yes you can do it with a dual line, I've done it once, it's weird. you can dogstake any kite I would imagine, even a single line, lol dogstaking a single line sounds like somthin i could handle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant man Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 i went out again today im going to get this dogstake thing down if it kills me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backspin23 Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 It probably won't kill you but you may hurt quite a bit after a hard days work, don't forget you hard hat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant man Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 well im going to give it another try this weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backspin23 Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 something that may or may not help is to switch the handles, right one in the left hand and left one in the right hand. because of your perspective of the kite it may help you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant man Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 thanks ill try it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Indeed, switch hands... The key is to look at the back of the kite (since you're downwind), and fool yourself into thinking it's the front. Doing this, with the handles switched, should have it flying normally for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant man Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 well that will take some getting used to but i love a challenge its what kept me flying all these years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristan Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 I tried dogstake with my dual line yesterday and the second time I got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Great job Tristan. Your smiley is looking better and better too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristan Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Thanks John after nationals at Ocean Shores I am going start entering OIF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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