Mike Klaiber Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Just got my room booked. First baby step will be in NJ... NMB. Thanks to the ODSKC flyers who made me feel at home on the field observing along with Paul, Fletch and JB who inspire me to be better each flight. Now to put some time in. Suggestions on novice music? Short and sweet and keep it simple. Coming from heart of Blue Ridge Mountains I thought some fast pickin blue grass would shock NJ folks into at least turning their heads to see what's going on??? Get in, get out and leave em screaming "move up"! Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffclown Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Look up John McEuen - Return to Dismal Swap.. You'll love it and you will get attention.. If Kitebus is there, he has my disk with it on it.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Do you want to win, or do you want to dance? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makatakam Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Joan Jett version of Crimson and Clover if you want to win. Jorma Kaukonen's Embryonic Journey if you want to dance. Catching my drift? -- Good luck, make them squeal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Although there are exceptions, composed soundtrack music lends itself better to demonstrating choreography for kite judges... "Bom, bom, bom-bom-bom-bom, tada!" Olympic Fanfare, Raiders of the Lost Ark, etc - not as "dance worthy", but much easier to both choreograph (as a flier) and interpret (as a judge). Vocal pieces generally score lower, unless it's an exceptional rendition that the judges connect with. All that being said, you can always pick what MOVES you in particular and simplyexpress yourself to the best of your ability - it's a non-professional sport judged in many cases by people who know less than the fliers, enjoy it for the experience - anything else is gravy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Food for thought... http://kitelife.com/kl-archive/video-board/competition-videos/when-it-becomes-routine/ http://kitelife.com/kl-archive/tutorials/tutorials-dual-line/flying-with-intent/ http://kitelife.com/kl-archive/video-board/competition-videos/working-the-wind-window/ http://kitelife.com/kl-archive/general-topics/competition-general-topics/how-does-competition-evolve/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makatakam Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 And if you make a mistake, repeating it will make it look intentional. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Kind of like saying to the judges, "prove it!" Many of the best tricks or combos started out that way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Klaiber Posted August 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Although there are exceptions, composed soundtrack music lends itself better to demonstrating choreography for kite judges... "Bom, bom, bom-bom-bom-bom, tada!" Olympic Fanfare, Raiders of the Lost Ark, etc - not as "dance worthy", but much easier to both choreograph (as a flier) and interpret (as a judge). Vocal pieces generally score lower, unless it's an exceptional rendition that the judges connect with. All that being said, you can always pick what MOVES you in particular and simplyexpress yourself to the best of your ability - it's a non-professional sport judged in many cases by people who know less than the fliers, enjoy it for the experience - anything else is gravy. [emoji4] Thanks Y'all! Love some of the comments and comparisons! With a limited bag of tricks and routine, does it matter if you cut something like "Raiders" to a two minute thirty second selection? I was advised keep it short and sweet and try not to repeat although I can repeat a flappy wing on the end of the window with flare and repetition! Seems like the judges may wonder where's the rest? I want to have fun flying the few patterns I know and highlight with some music peaks. Find a glide or two and escape without knotting up. [emoji51][emoji12][emoji3]Thanks again!Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Good call. 2:30-3:00 length would be fine, any editing is welcome as long as it's reasonably done - badly edited music can impact your choreography score or even cause an improper ending deduction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Klaiber Posted August 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Food for thought... [emoji6]http://kitelife.com/kl-archive/video-board/competition-videos/when-it-becomes-routine/http://kitelife.com/kl-archive/tutorials/tutorials-dual-line/flying-with-intent/http://kitelife.com/kl-archive/video-board/competition-videos/working-the-wind-window/http://kitelife.com/kl-archive/general-topics/competition-general-topics/how-does-competition-evolve/ These are great references too!Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul LaMasters Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 movie sound tracks have drama built-in,... can you find it and make it come alive as you're own? or just go have fun and don't worry about a thing if you want to win in quad-line competition at the Eastern league you only need to remember two words reverse(1) slow(2) SHOW me you have control, not just a silly flailing action with music on in the background if you don't back-up in flight then you don't know what you're being judge upon and your scores will reflect that. Here's an example: It's better to run out of field and be carried back down wind 3 times (showing reverse flight) than to keep the kite airborne for the entire time and never use the two bottom lines! I'm no national champion, but i have done this competition thing a few times, been master's class for 12 years (whether or not that distinction is warranted) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makatakam Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Just have fun -- we are not talking life-and-death here. Smile and don't forget to breathe. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 That's right. You're competing for a piece of paper that says you beat 3-6 other recreational fliers, earning you points for more of the same. Treat it like a focused demonstration, another venue for expression, kinship and challenge via competition format - have fun. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 When I competed in the early 90s, there would be nearly 60 competitors in my class alone and 12 master class dual line teams from all over the world (Japan and UK came over to compete a lot) all competing for points on a national circuit... What we have now is really local gatherings for competitive enjoyment, not sure it really qualifies as a full sport these days.Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Klaiber Posted August 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 movie sound tracks have drama built-in,... can you find it and make it come alive as you're own? or just go have fun and don't worry about a thing if you want to win in quad-line competition at the Eastern league you only need to remember two words reverse(1) slow(2) SHOW me you have control, not just a silly flailing action with music on in the background if you don't back-up in flight then you don't know what you're being judge upon and your scores will reflect that. Here's an example: It's better to run out of field and be carried back down wind 3 times (showing reverse flight) than to keep the kite airborne for the entire time and never use the two bottom lines! I'm no national champion, but i have done this competition thing a few times, been master's class for 12 years (whether or not that distinction is warranted) Totally reflects top flyers I observed at ODSKC this year. Fortunately or not also reflects the wind conditions near me and my reasoning for practicing zero wind to top of window and glide recover. Need a spin or two in glide back to starting point like you and Fletch! I am becoming a fair flyer, over enthusiastically trying to absorb and learn. Just want to have fair winds and fun competing once before winter sets in. Thanks Paul!Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Klaiber Posted August 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 When I competed in the early 90s, there would be nearly 60 competitors in my class alone and 12 master class dual line teams from all over the world (Japan and UK came over to compete a lot) all competing for points on a national circuit... What we have now is really local gatherings for competitive enjoyment, not sure it really qualifies as a full sport these days.Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app So is it economics that make it challenging for teams, or folks like yourself growing older and having families (seems like you grew up in the sports highlife), or lack of enthusiastic flyers or same group of flyers just getting older? Seems like I have come into the sport when it's fizzling but striving to remake itself. Community based fun with competition subset. Don't want to start a thing, just self interest. Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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