thebbqguy Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 I went to purchase a Synapse today but they only had the 140 in stock. I'll hold out for a 170 I think. Is a 170 going to pull a 200# guy around a lot or just be a steady tug? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffclown Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 You'll need quite a breeze for the 170 to pull you around.. I'd recommend the 200.. and FWIW, it can be quadlines just like this Snapshot 1.9 https://www.facebook.com/groups/313976175673860/permalink/351976768540467/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebbqguy Posted August 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 Nice video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebbqguy Posted August 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 Looking at this one too: HQ Symphony Beach III 1.8 Dual Line Foil Kite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebbqguy Posted August 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 Any thoughts about Cross Kites 1.8 m compared to the Synapse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffclown Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 I'm a huge fan of the HQ Symphony but would highly suggest you look at the 2.2 I have a 1.8 and it pretty much stays in my bag.. I have 8 of the 2.2's that I converted and those get flown EVERY chance I get.. one reason I recommend the 2.2 over the 1.8 is the 1.8 is a bit too small to convert. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffclown Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 Crosskites 1.8 if I'm not mistaken is actually a 1.8M size and would be much larger than the 180 and slightly larger that the Symphony 2.2 There are 2 different ways to measure these kites, until you mentioned the Crosskites, you were talking about Sport Size, once you get into Square Meters, you are truly in the power kite territory.. Here is a Symphony 2.2 (sport size) laying on top of a Crossfire 2M (Square Meters) kite.. Notice the 2M kite is much larger and much more powerful.. Mkae sure when you are looking at the numbers you are aware of which numbers you are actually using.. Power Kites, Square Meter sizing is also known by the term Traction Size and are literally tuned to provide maximum pull to propel a buggy, board or other transportation device.. Here is Chris Shultz from HQ Kites using my 4M Crossfire to scud through the sand at Jockey's Ridge.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebbqguy Posted August 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 I ordered the Symphony. It will be here Friday. I got the 1.8. My wife wants to fly also, so I think a little smaller might be best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffclown Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 Copy that.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebbqguy Posted August 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 Thanks for the tips. It gave me confidence to pull the trigger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebbqguy Posted August 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 The Symphony arrived. Now the rain needs to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makatakam Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 58 minutes ago, thebbqguy said: The Symphony arrived. Now the rain needs to leave. I feel your pain. Damn the rain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breezin Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 Put a rain coat on my Widow. Didn't work very well. Ground was soft so I didn't break anything. White kites don't look good all muddied up.Black Dog being black and all doesn't look 1/2 bad.I think it's the only kite I got that's rip stop polyester. Handles the wet pretty well.Next time though I'll wait till it stops 😞. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 Hey guys does anyone have the conversion tips to convert to a quad? I Know this is an older thread but curious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffclown Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 The instruction here work well.. You'll need to tweak the measurements a bit. On smaller sails you also need to start considering the added weight of the rear bridles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 Thank you so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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